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    Default Building a Coolerdor

    7 Easy Steps to a Successful Coolerdor!



    Step 1) Select a cooler!

    Look for a cooler that will fit in an out of the way place.. most Wife Units don't approve of large coolers cluttering up the living room or bedroom. I keep mine in a closet. Look for a cooler that has a tight sealing lid. I only use 50qt Coleman coolers LINKY. I have two of these filled already, with just over one year of collection. You can find larger coolers, and some of the 100+ qt Coleman Marine coolers would make GREAT humidors, they're just too large for me to lug around.

    Step 2) Clean the Cooler!

    This is an important step, but not difficult. I clean mine using a mild bleach solution, making sure to wipe all surfaces well, rinse with generous amounts of cool water, (do this in the driveway with the hose.) Once you are satisfied that no bleach aroma can be detected, let your cooler set out in the hot sun for a good while. This will help release the plastic odors that are present in any newly molded cooler. I let mine sit in the sun for at least two days, bringing them in at night.

    Step 3) Humidification!

    I think I speak for most everyone here when I say Rh Beads are the way to go. Not only are the basically a set and forget system, (very little maintenance is required,) but they work two ways, by releasing humidity when Rh is low, and absorbing excess humidity when Rh swings high... Very Cool! First you need to determine the quantity of beads needed, They're sold by weight.LINK TO BEAD CALCULATOR
    Measure the interior dimensions of your cooler, and use that calculator to determine how much to purchase. DON'T SKIMP ON THE BEADS! Too Much is ALWAYS better than not enough! Most here will recommend using the 65% rh Beads but you can eventually determine what works best for you. Beads will need to be charged with DISTILLED water, put some water in a NEW spray bottle, and slowly spray and mix them up until about half of the beads are clear.

    Step 4) Hygrometer

    This is another thing that you will not want to skimp on. Get yourself a good quality DIGITAL hygrometer, one that is preferably adjustable. ADJUSTABLE DIGITAL HYGROMETER.

    Step 4a) Calibrate hygrometer

    If you purchase a hygrometer from the above link, just add the Boveda Calibration kit at checkout, they're very easy to use. Or, you can perform the "Salt Test". Get yourself a HEAVY gallon size ziploc freezer bag, a cap from a 2-liter soda bottle, and some table salt. Fill the cap with salt, and drizzle some distilled water just enough to make the salt paste like, not soaked, then seal both the salt, and hygrometer up in the ziploc bag, and leave it alone overnight, in the morning, a perfectly calibrated hygrometer will read 75% rh. If you can adjust yours through the bag, do that, otherwise, open the bag, and quickly adjust to read 75%. Done

    Step 5) Humidity Buffering

    Eventually, this step will work itself out due to large numbers of box purchases Plastic does absolutely nothing to hold humidity, and constant opening of an empty cooler will usually create some pretty drastic swings in humidity. If you want to get all fancy, you can purchase some SPANISH cedar, (not red cedar, it's totally different,) and build shelves that fit your cooler. Another option is to go to Home Depot, and ask for some 1/8 thick LUAN, which is a mahogany plywood. (Spanish Cedar is a close relative of Mahogany). Or, just collect some nice wood cigar boxes, and use them to store cigars in. Ideally, you want to fill up at least 75% of the coolers internal volume, this will act to hold humidity when you open and close the cooler.

    Step 6) Seasoning

    This step is very important! Cigars by nature are Hygroscopic, meaning they will adapt themselves over time to whatever humidity level they are stored at. The important note here is: Spanish cedar is ALSO hygroscopic, and if not properly seasoned, will quickly absorb the moisture from your precious cigars... NOT GOOD! So, if you use luan, or old cigar boxes, moisten a sponge with distilled water, and dampen (slightly) all exposed surfaces of the wood, then place all the Empty boxes in the cooler, along with the charged beads, (the sandwich shaped Gladloc containers work great for beads, you can leave the lids off, or drill holes in them,) put the hygrometer in a place where you can easily read it quickly when you open the cooler, close the lid, and leave it closed for 48 hours or more. This will allow everything to stabilize, and if you calibrated correctly, you should have a reading somewhere between 65% ~ 70% rh.

    Step 7) Fill it up!

    No explanation necessary here Go Smoke A Cigar!


    Please feel free to add any details that I may have missed!


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    I make a motion for a sticky to be put in place.

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    I second that motion. Nice work, very thorough and helpful.
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    Damn, I bet your closet is pretty crowded, what with 2- 50qt coolers and all those inflatable dolls and stuff........geesh, it must take a long time to select a cigar.


    Nice thread bro.......I third the sticky request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashauler View Post
    Damn, I bet your closet is pretty crowded, what with 2- 50qt coolers and all those inflatable dolls and stuff........geesh, it must take a long time to select a cigar.


    Nice thread bro.......I third the sticky request.
    If you deflate them, they take up less space... and blowing them up is half the fun!
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    Great thread, bigwhite! i haven't seasoned my boxes yet but the rh is doing good. when i get more boxes i will.
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    How about this stuff? Is it any different from the beads?

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    Yes, there is a difference.....beads also remove excess moisture from your humi......gel-jars and PG solutions only control the release of moisture and do not remove excess moisture should your rh rise above acceptable limits.
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    Here in the south, we routinely get days on end of 97%+ rh. this will really give beads a workout. I plan on adding an additional pound of 65% beads to my main cooler, (the one that get's opened all the time). Just ot offset the high ambient rh
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    Do you think there would be any advantage to adding some cedar? Some, like Fuente have the very thin divider sheets in between layers of cigars. Maybe putting a few of these on the bottom or sides would help it be more like a cedar humi. Any thoughts?

    Edit, you already covered this under "Humidity Buffering".
    Last edited by DeeDubya; 06-04-2008 at 01:59 PM. Reason: Attempt to cover up my extreme lame dumbness.

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    I use all of those cedar divider sheets just like you suggest. they're either on the bottom, or between the wall and a box.

    I also throw in the cedar blocks that typically come with a box.
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    sticky icky this! very straight fwd and to the point! nicely done.
    this would have come in handy for me a few months back when i was looking for tips on starting up a coolidor. one thing that i did to get rid of the new cooler plastic smell was leave a box of baking soda in there for a couple days. worked like a charm.

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    Wow, Thanks for the Stickifcation

    What an Honor!
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    Np dude. Thanks for taking the time to put together a really useful and informative post!
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    This may be a stupid question but are the rh beads the same thing as those little polymer crystals that turn into gel when they get wet?I bought some for my nephew a while back and my brother said they can be used for a cigar humidifier.
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    This site should answer all your questions about the beads. If not you can email Viper and I'm sure he'll answer all your questions. They work great and are highly recommended. http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/faq.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigars 101 View Post
    This may be a stupid question but are the rh beads the same thing as those little polymer crystals that turn into gel when they get wet?I bought some for my nephew a while back and my brother said they can be used for a cigar humidifier.
    The crystals are something else entirely, as they only ADD to humidity. The beads from Heartfelt will also absorb excess moisture.

    The crystals also contain propylene glycol, some people don't care for using chemicals in their humidors, but PG has been used for years.
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    is it ok to make a humdor out of a bread box? my dad gave it to me cause he doesn't use it and it doesn't have any wood odors or any other smells that would ruin the cigars. I don't know what wood its made of but I am guessing pine. So can I use it or can humidors only be made of Spanish cedar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigars 101 View Post
    is it ok to make a humdor out of a bread box? my dad gave it to me cause he doesn't use it and it doesn't have any wood odors or any other smells that would ruin the cigars. I don't know what wood its made of but I am guessing pine. So can I use it or can humidors only be made of Spanish cedar?
    I have heard (well, read) somewhere that Cedrella odorata (spanish cedar) also keeps the tobacco worm away. If it were me, I would avoid pine as it's plenty of resine.

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    Is the Spanish Cedar a must have? I'm going to get a few empty boxes to use in my coolerdor, but wasn't gonna go online and order any length of it right away. I do plan on running the RH beads.

    Other then that, my apt is usually between 74-78f all year long. I know the cooler will end up close to whatever the temp around it is. My range should be suitable for a coolerdor setup?

    EDIT Well, I found a place that might have some planks in, and if they do, i'm gonna grab some to line with.
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