Calling out Artyman

**basil** · 06-30-2009, 04:19 PM

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the most fucked up, you're about at a 7. You're shitting all over the board in general, and specifically the participants of the PuroPot Pass. I would say "other" participants, but that would imply that you were one of the participants and you haven't participated with any integrity, which puts you more in the category of egocentric, arrogant asshole rather than participant. Others have been pretty goddamn polite, letting your shit slide, hoping you'd pull your head out of your ass, but, for what it's worth, that's over as far I'm concerned.

The guy running the pass generously allowed you to join at a late date after you asked:

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

Make it 4. I missed the Spring Draft and I just gotta get in on something! Plus, who wouldn't want the chance to get a disgusting/perverse/hilarious sigtag

One would think that after being given what amounts to special permission you'd be putting in the effort to reciprocate the goodwill of the other participants.

But no, you posted this on or about 6/9:

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

Got the package yesterday. I'll try and smoke it today or tomorrow...get that 'winner' sig tag ready to go...

And then a week later, you insult the board with this bullshit:

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

Hey guys, I had to go out of town and I didn't get a chance to smoke the puro before I left. I do have it with me and I plan on smoking it tomorrow. I wasn't trying to blow anybody off, but I do have my priorities. Sorry I left everybody hanging. It wasn't my intention...

Of course you have priorities, and having priorities is not the problem. The problem is your disregard for any kind of timely communication, and your lack of acknowledgment of the same, even after it was pointed out to you. So, leaving people hanging was exactly your intention. That's like sucker punching someone and then saying, 'whoops, I didn't mean to do that.' Action requires thought no matter how compulsive and poorly attended to, and your lameass apology holds no water.

And finally, you come up with this little gem:

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

Alright, the moment you've all been waiting for... blah, blah, blah . . . Sorry again for my little disappearing act...I was considering taking all those high dollar smokes and heading for the border

More cavalier bullshit. Again, nobody cares that you "disappeared". Just give somebody a heads up. All this amounts to is you blowing another chance to apologize for zero communication.

And now, you've "disappeared" again, no doubt thinking you can come in here whenever and throw some more bullshit around and get away with it.

Fuck that. You don't get it. The only way you can fix this, IMO, is to send the cigars, hope like hell they don't get lost, apologize, and then STFU for a long while, or better, just get off the board and stay off.

I just hope the very small gap between bullshit artist and thief is a little further than you're willing to jump.

**JFellows** · 06-30-2009, 04:37 PM

What's his address? We should give him a call.

**ggiese** · 06-30-2009, 06:22 PM

Screw the pooch, and then wipe your private parts off on the owners leg???

Bad move...

**slcraiders** · 06-30-2009, 07:20 PM

Purely classless

**ashauler** · 06-30-2009, 08:33 PM

It's a fuckin' shame. Slack was given and you hung yourself with it.

What were the contents of the prize pack?

**FactoredReality** · 06-30-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ashauler

What were the contents of the prize pack?

Eville was the last to win, so that leaves BWA and Mrtr33 prize sticks, plus Artyman's 3.

**mrtr33** · 06-30-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by FactoredReality

Eville was the last to win, so that leaves BWA and Mrtr33 prize sticks, plus Artyman's 3.

Actually, Eville won, but put 3. BWA put 3, I put 3, and Artyman1200 should have put 3. We're talking about a dozen sticks.

I'm disappointed this contest ended this way. Sorry to everyone who played that it ended up like this.

**ashauler** · 07-01-2009, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

Actually, Eville won, but put 3. BWA put 3, I put 3, and Artyman1200 should have put 3. We're talking about a dozen sticks.

I'm disappointed this contest ended this way. Sorry to everyone who played that it ended up like this.

You have no reason to apologize. This was an excellent pass that was a blast for all who particpated.....and everyone else who laughed.

**FactoredReality** · 07-01-2009, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by ashauler

You have no reason to apologize. This was an excellent pass that was a blast for all who particpated.....and everyone else who laughed.

Agreed

**nhcigarfan** · 07-01-2009, 09:15 AM

phucktard

**Diesel Grinch** · 07-01-2009, 10:36 AM

Make things right. Get those smoke out! No reason to hold on to them for this long. Takes only a few minutes to tape the box shut and label it. Then a few more to send it out. Hell the post office will pick right up if you paid online.

DG

**Artyman1200** · 07-01-2009, 10:38 AM

I generally didn't read any of the above posts, because I can only guess...

I apologize for bad communication and for not replying to senior members of this board.
I apologize for not doing things in a timely manner.

The sticks will go out tomorrow once I get a verification from Mark on the addy. This turned out not to be a good time for me to get involved in the pass. I should have exercised better discretion and planning. Yes, there is a total of 12 sticks. I know this has hurt my reputation, but it's not fair to write me off as some douchebag. I screwed up and I admit it.

Dan

**JFellows** · 07-01-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

I generally didn't read any of the above posts, because I can only guess...

I apologize for bad communication and for not replying to senior members of this board.
I apologize for not doing things in a timely manner.

The sticks will go out tomorrow once I get a verification from Mark on the addy. This turned out not to be a good time for me to get involved in the pass. I should have exercised better discretion and planning. Yes, there is a total of 12 sticks. I know this has hurt my reputation, but it's not fair to write me off as some douchebag. I screwed up and I admit it.

Dan

Big mistake x2.

**Artyman1200** · 07-01-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

I generally didn't read any of the above posts, because I can only guess...

That was just an admission that I already knew I screwed up, not a sign of disrespect.

I apologized. That's all I can do.

**ggiese** · 07-01-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

That was just an admission that I already knew I screwed up, not a sign of disrespect.

I apologized. That's all I can do.

I don't think anyone is going to lead you where you need to go (you're a big boy and all) - but (as painful as it is) they're going to kick you in the right direction. The rest is up to you. I will say, though - if you think apologizing is all you can do - you're probably may need to look at the path you're on. You are tasked with restoring your credibility - not the other way around...

**basil** · 07-01-2009, 11:29 AM

Not fair? As you've already stated - you know your reputation has been damaged. You are the only one on the board who has created for yourself a rep as a douchebag, as has been confirmed by all previous posts in this thread and a few in the pass thread.

Except for the whining about the rep you've created, and your admitted failure to examine the remarks on this thread and the ones on the pass thread as closely as the writers intended for them to be (regardless of your own reasons for merely scanning them), you've started a decent apology.

But forget about the name calling, high siding, etc. This is where you're fucked: I would not be a part of a pass in which you are a participant; i.e., you can't be trusted. Doubt if I'm alone on this count.

So stop whining. Time will tell.

**Artyman1200** · 07-01-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by basil

Not fair? As you've already stated - you know your reputation has been damaged. You are the only one on the board who has created for yourself a rep as a douchebag, as has been confirmed by all previous posts in this thread and a few in the pass thread.

Except for the whining about the rep you've created, and your admitted failure to examine the remarks on this thread and the ones on the pass thread as closely as the writers intended for them to be (regardless of your own reasons for merely scanning them), you've started a decent apology.

But forget about the name calling, high siding, etc. This is where you're fucked: I would not be a part of a pass in which you are a participant; i.e., you can't be trusted. Doubt if I'm alone on this count.

So stop whining. Time will tell.

Fair enough.

**nhcigarfan** · 07-01-2009, 11:35 AM

rehabilitation is not out of the question but it takes time.. and effort.

**ashauler** · 07-01-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by basil

Not fair? As you've already stated - you know your reputation has been damaged. You are the only one on the board who has created for yourself a rep as a douchebag, as has been confirmed by all previous posts in this thread and a few in the pass thread.

Except for the whining about the rep you've created, and your admitted failure to examine the remarks on this thread and the ones on the pass thread as closely as the writers intended for them to be (regardless of your own reasons for merely scanning them), you've started a decent apology.

But forget about the name calling, high siding, etc. This is where you're fucked: I would not be a part of a pass in which you are a participant; i.e., you can't be trusted. Doubt if I'm alone on this count.

So stop whining. Time will tell.

Right on the money. It takes a long time to establish a good, solid reputation, and only one second to fuck it all up. For some it's a one-strike-you're-out kinda thing, not saying that's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

rehabilitation is not out of the question but it takes time.. and effort.

Amen.

**Shelby07** · 07-01-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Artyman1200

I generally didn't read any of the above posts, because I can only guess...

Guessing isn't really appropriate. Read the posts. I don't have a dog in this hunt, but people took the time to post and let you know they are upset with you so, you should at least take the time to read what they said.

I would guess that you probably have read every word. Don't know why you wouldn't or why you'd say you didn't.

This just seems like an extension of the flippant and cavalier attitude Ted is referring to in his first post.