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    Post MEGA Review: Carlos Torano Cameroon 1916 Robusto






    About the cigar:

    Brand: ...... Carlos Torano ........... Color: ...... Natural
    Name: ....... Cameroon 1916 ........... Wrapper: .... Cameroon
    Country: .... Nicaragua ............... Binder: ..... Havana Seed Nicaraguan
    Type: ....... Robusto ................. Filler: ..... Honduras/Nicaragua
    Size: ....... 5.5x52 .................. Price: ...... $4.24
    Strength: ... Full .................... Website: .... http://www.torano.com

    Information from Camino Viejo Tabacos:
    A slow burning, well balanced cigar, the Carlos Torano 1916 Cameroon was developed to commemorate the Torano family's entrance into the tobacco industry. These cigars are medium bodied with hints of pepper and spice. Cigar Aficionado named the 1916 Cameroon one of the top 50 cigars for 2004 and gave it a 90 rating. Smoke Magazine awarded it with a stellar 4.3 rating.
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    | GENERAL:... | .Experience. | Date Smoked | .Where Smoked. | Duration | ..Smoked.. |
    | Abyr....... | Newbie...... | Sept 26.... | Home.......... | 1 hour.. | Most of it |
    | ashauler... | Newbie...... | Sept 19.... | Nunya......... | 1 hour.. | Most of it |
    | badwhale... | Amateur..... | Sept 17.... | Basement...... | 1 hour.. | Most of it |
    | buzz....... | Newbie...... | Sept 25.... | Front yard.... | 1.5 hrs. | Nubbed it. |
    | cigarsarge. | FOG......... | Sept 18.... | Breezeway..... | 1 hour.. | Most of it |
    | Daigz...... | Newbie...... | Sept 27.... | Porch......... | 1 hour.. | Nubbed it. |
    | EGQ........ | Been around. | Sept 27.... | Living room... | 45 mins. | Most of it |
    | Eville..... | Newbie...... | Sept 27.... | Parking lot... | 1 hour.. | Most of it |
    | heftysmokes | Amateur..... | Sept 25.... | Back patio.... | ........ | Nubbed it. |
    | Irish79.... | Newbie...... | Sept 16.... | Garage (rain). | 1.5 hrs. | Most of it |
    | Mangyrat... | Amateur..... | ........... | .............. | 1 hour.. | Nubbed it. |
    | Mizicke5273 | Amateur..... | Aug 27..... | Back deck..... | 1.5 hrs. | Nubbed it. |
    | MrPlatypus. | Newbie...... | Sept 25.... | Outside....... | 59 mins. | Most of it |
    | Tdre977.... | Newbie...... | Sept 13.... | Living room... | 1.25 hrs | Most of it |

    | OTHER INFO: | .......Food...... | .........Drink........ | ........Music........ |
    | Abyr....... | N/A.............. | Black Seal rum........ | N/A.................. |
    | ashauler... | N/A.............. | Water................. | N/A.................. |
    | badwhale... | N/A.............. | Porter, water......... | N/A.................. |
    | buzz....... | Salad............ | Cold beer............. | Me (playing guitar).. |
    | cigarsarge. | Pizza............ | Pepsi Cola............ | N/A.................. |
    | Daigz...... | N/A.............. | Tomatin 12 year....... | TV: Bears/Packers.... |
    | EGQ........ | N/A.............. | Water................. | TV: Bears/Packers.... |
    | Eville..... | N/A.............. | N/A................... | Flogging Molly....... |
    | heftysmokes | N/A.............. | Water................. | Boot Liquor Radio.... |
    | Irish79.... | N/A.............. | Water................. | Pandora, Warehouse 13 |
    | Mangyrat... | N/A.............. | Cognac................ | N/A.................. |
    | Mizicke5273 | N/A.............. | Laphroig & Diet Coke.. | Tenacious D.......... |
    | MrPlatypus. | N/A.............. | Water................. | Assorted Wumpscut.... |
    | Tdre977.... | N/A.............. | Water................. | N/A.................. |

    MISCELLANEOUS:

    badwhale: This became an impromptu dual review with wifey. She had a corona I had from the PPPIII winnings.
    buzz: Nice night out, not too hot. Wifey was out with her dad so I sat out front and serenaded the neighbors. I screwed up the cut and caused a split, which annoyed me for most of the smoke... dangit Buzz.
    cigarsarge: Smoked it after work about one o'clock in the morning after a busy night.
    Daigz: There was a slight crack in the wrapper of the one I smoked but I think it is because my humidor has been attacked by my friends recently when they are over for football!
    heftysmokes: Beautiful evening. Watched the offspring score a goal at his soccer game this afternoon. Kids asleep, wife at work... perfect time for a cigar.
    Mangyrat: Watching the rain.
    MrPlatypus: Started at 8:33 PM. Ended at 9:32 PM. Medication might be altering taste buds, but memory of the other one I smoked almost the same, so I don't think medication is a factor.
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    | APPEARANCE:... | Poor. | Fair. | Good. | Outstanding | Perfect |
    | Abyr.......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | ashauler...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | badwhale...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | buzz.......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Daigz......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | EGQ........... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Eville........ | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | heftysmokes... | ..... | ..... | ..... | .....X..... | ....... |
    | Irish79....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ..... | ..... | ..... | .....X..... | ....... |
    | Tdre977....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |

    | CONSTRUCTION:. | Poor. | Fair. | Good. | Outstanding | Perfect |
    | Abyr.......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | ashauler...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | badwhale...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | buzz.......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... | ........... | ....... |
    | Daigz......... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | EGQ........... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Eville........ | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | heftysmokes... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Irish79....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ..... | ..... | ..... | .....X..... | ....... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |
    | Tdre977....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ........... | ....... |

    | BURN:......... | Very Uneven | Uneven. | Even. | Perfect |
    | Abyr.......... | ........... | ...X... | ..... | ....... |
    | ashauler...... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | badwhale...... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | buzz.......... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ........... | ...X... | ..... | ....... |
    | Daigz......... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | EGQ........... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | Eville........ | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | heftysmokes... | ........... | ....... | ..... | ...X... |
    | Irish79....... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ........... | ...X... | ..... | ....... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ........... | ....... | ..X.. | ....... |
    | Tdre977....... | ........... | ....... | ..... | ...X... |

    | DRAW:......... | Too Easy. | Easy. | Perfect | Tight | Too Tight |
    | Abyr.......... | ......... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... | ......... |
    | ashauler...... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | badwhale...... | ......... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... | ......... |
    | buzz.......... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ......... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... | ......... |
    | Daigz......... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | EGQ........... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | Eville........ | ....X.... | ..... | ....... | ..... | ......... |
    | heftysmokes... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | Irish79....... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ......... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... | ......... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
    | Tdre977....... | ......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... | ......... |
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    | ASH COLOR:.... | Black | Dark Gray | Gray. | Light Gray. | White |
    | Abyr.......... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | ashauler...... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | badwhale...... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | buzz.......... | ..... | ......... | ..... | .....X..... | ..... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ..... | ......... | ..... | .....X..... | ..... |
    | Daigz......... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | EGQ........... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | Eville........ | ..... | ......... | ..... | .....X..... | ..... |
    | heftysmokes... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | Irish79....... | ..... | ....X.... | ..... | ........... | ..... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ..... | ......... | ..... | .....X..... | ..... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |
    | Tdre977....... | ..... | ......... | ..X.. | ........... | ..... |

    | ASH STRUCTURE: | Flaky | Typical | Solid |
    | Abyr.......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | ashauler...... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | badwhale...... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... |
    | buzz.......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... |
    | Daigz......... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | EGQ........... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... |
    | Eville........ | ..X.. | ....... | ..... |
    | heftysmokes... | ..... | ....... | ..X.. |
    | Irish79....... | ..X.. | ....... | ..... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |
    | Tdre977....... | ..... | ...X... | ..... |

    | ASH LENGTH:... | <1 inch | 1 inch. | 1-1/2 inch. | 2 inch. | >2 inch |
    | Abyr.......... | ...X... | ....... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | ashauler...... | ....... | ....... | .....X..... | ....... | ....... |
    | badwhale...... | ...X... | ....... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | buzz.......... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ...X... | ....... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | Daigz......... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | EGQ........... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | Eville........ | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | Irish79....... | ....... | ....... | .....X..... | ....... | ....... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ....... | ...X... | ........... | ....... | ....... |
    | Tdre977....... | ....... | ....... | .....X..... | ....... | ....... |

    | AROMA:........ | Horrid. | Poor. | Fair. | Good. | Great |
    | Abyr.......... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | ashauler...... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | badwhale...... | ....... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... | ..... |
    | buzz.......... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | Daigz......... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | EGQ........... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | Eville........ | ....... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... | ..... |
    | heftysmokes... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | Irish79....... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ....... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... | ..... |
    | Tdre977....... | ....... | ..... | ..... | ..X.. | ..... |

    | STRENGTH:..... | Mild. | Mild-Med. | Medium. | Med-Full. | Full. |
    | Abyr.......... | ..... | ....X.... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | ashauler...... | ..... | ....X.... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | badwhale...... | ..X.. | ......... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | buzz.......... | ..X.. | ......... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | cigarsarge.... | ..... | ......... | ...X... | ......... | ..... |
    | Daigz......... | ..... | ....X.... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | EGQ........... | ..... | ....X.... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | Eville........ | ..... | ......... | ...X... | ......... | ..... |
    | heftysmokes... | ..... | ......... | ...X... | ......... | ..... |
    | Irish79....... | ..... | ......... | ...X... | ......... | ..... |
    | Mangyrat...... | ..... | ......... | ...X... | ......... | ..... |
    | Mizicke5273... | ..... | ......... | ....... | ....X.... | ..... |
    | MrPlatypus.... | ..... | ....X.... | ....... | ......... | ..... |
    | Tdre977....... | ..... | ......... | ....... | ....X.... | ..... |
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    prelight taste:

    abyr: spicy and grassy.
    ashauler: nice tobacco with a little zing on the lips.
    badwhale: me: Light sweet tobacco taste on punched prelight. Wifey: Not much flavor.
    buzz: sweet, maybe cashew taste and a slight twinge (maybe spice).
    cigarsarge: typical toothy cameroon wrapper. The cap is a little rough and there is a small split near the top of the cigar. Cameroon wrapper is fragile so i expect in wrappers of this type. It clipped well. Typical cameroon sweetness and a light pepper sensation on my lips.
    daigz: slightly sweet taste.
    egq: slightly sweet.
    eville: forgot this step.
    mangyrat: something about this wrapper i like, i just can’t put it into words. Slight creamy taste with a hint of spice.
    mizicke5273: sweet taste with a hint of spice thrown in. Nice cinnamon smell about it.
    mrplatypus: not much detectable. Medication might be over-riding it. Want to say earth from what i can detect.
    tdre977: smells nice, love the cedar sleeves. Wrapper is a little bumpy.
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    taste (1/3):

    abyr: doesn't taste as good as it smelled.
    ashauler: nice solid cammy flavor, not exceptional, but solid. I've smoked quite a few of these so nothing surprising with this one.
    badwhale: me: Light medium body. Sweet tobacco ring and a little spice on the aftertaste / exhale. Oily mouthfeel. Wifey: Dry pepper flavor with a bit of a burn.
    buzz: nice taste, but very mild. Light sweetness and even lighter spice. Tons of smoke – which i love. Good burn and great draw. Dude playing the guitar sucks though. Sounds like a cat stuck under the stairs.
    cigarsarge: woody sweet spice with a perfume fragrance. The ash is white and flakey.
    daigz: this started out with a slightly sweet taste with a woodsy flavor.
    egq: sweet and a bit peppery.
    eville: sweet grass, very spicy. Not a lot of smoke.
    heftysmokes: cedar. Leather on the back of the tongue. Copious smoke. Draw a little on the easy side.
    irish79: nice volume of smoke. Little bit of spice. Smooth.
    mangyrat: a little earthy and spice.
    mizicke5273: flavor is full and spicy, very tasty indeed. A slight uneven burn developed. As the smoke progressed, the spiciness has picked up and an earthy taste has developed.
    mrplatypus: not much i can really give a name to, outside of a somewhat cedar like flavor. But the mouth feel is pleasant, and the retrohale is smooth. Don't feel like i'm having my nostrils cauterized from the inside, which is always good. Developing into very woodsy notes.
    tdre977: lotsa smoke, first few puffs are like a pepper bomb on the nose exhale. Smoothes out real quick.
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    taste (2/3):

    abyr: same.
    ashauler: solid and typical, not changing much except maybe mellowing a bit from the first 1/3.
    badwhale: me: Creamy. Sweet tobacco. More mellow, and the bite is gone. Woodsy notes and a little earthy. Mild to medium. Wifey: Very mild flavor. Bit of peppery / earthy / and a bit of burn.
    buzz: sweetness died and spice went away. Bummer. Still tons of smoke, and the taste isn’t bad, just mild and muted. There might be some... No, nevermind, it was nothing.
    cigarsarge: more of the same. The split is getting longer. The ash fell on my lap.
    daigz: started to get very mild spice with a woodsy flavor, very enjoyable, still a tiny bit of sweetness in the nose exhale.
    egq: more pepper, less sweet.
    eville: getting pretty bitter. Still very little smoke. I thought there might be a hole or crack in it somewhere but wasn't able to find any.
    irish79: spice is almost gone. Had to touch up. Then spice is back. Now a woodsy taste.
    mangyrat: more of the same.
    mizicke5273: the second 3rd of this cigar has developed into a predominantly spicy flavor, that as time went on subsided to let way of a slight harsh taste to develop.
    mrplatypus: not terribly bad, slightly sharp at first. You can taste a mixture of tobacco, which does give it a nice side. Almost too mellow, but a somewhat complex mellow due to the mixture.
    tdre977: developed some nice sweet nutty flavors, ash fell off in my lap at about 1 1/2''. A little woodsy & creamy.
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    taste (3/3):

    abyr: got tar-ey at the end, and i had to put it out.
    ashauler: get's a tad bitter in the last inch and a half... Tossed it at that point.
    badwhale: me: Oily with a woodsy tone. Mild. Smooth but uneventful. Wifey: Too burny of a flavor. Hindered the mellowness of the cigar.
    buzz: stayed the same, very mild and not a lot of flavors past the 1st third. Got a little bitter at the very end. Music didn’t get much better either, cat must be stuck still.
    cigarsarge: the cigar became bitter toward the end.
    daigz: sweetness nearly died out in the last third but the spice picked up in its place.
    egq: same as 2/3.
    eville: getting a bit more smoke now. Flavor has improved. Sweet grass and a bit of leather. Substantially less spice.
    irish79: same taste as before, but this is a slow burner.
    mangyrat: the spice is more pronounced now and slightly stronger tobacco taste.
    mizicke5273: by this point, the flavor and spice has begun to disappear considerably, leaving behind a harsh taste.
    mrplatypus: very mellow. Became almost creamy, no noticeable tastes/flavors. A pleasant end.
    tdre977: some more of the same, has an aftertaste that i’m not all to thrilled with.
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    | GRADING:... | 1/3 | 2/3 | 3/3 | Overall |
    | Abyr....... | .B- | .B- | .C. | ...C+.. |
    | ashauler... | .C+ | .C+ | .C+ | ...C+.. |
    | badwhale... | .B. | .B- | .B- | ...B-.. |
    | buzz....... | .B. | .C. | .C- | ...C... |
    | cigarsarge. | .B. | .B. | .B- | ...B... |
    | Daigz...... | .A- | .A. | .A. | ...A-.. |
    | EGQ........ | .B+ | .B+ | .B+ | ...B+.. |
    | Eville..... | .B. | .C. | .A- | ...B... |
    | heftysmokes | .B+ | .A. | .A. | ...A-.. |
    | Irish79.... | .B+ | .B+ | .B+ | ...B+.. |
    | Mangyrat... | .A. | .A. | .A+ | ...A... |
    | Mizicke5273 | .B+ | .B+ | .B. | ...B... |
    | MrPlatypus. | .B. | .B. | .B. | ...B... |
    | Tdre977.... | .B- | .B+ | .C+ | ...B+.. |
    | AVERAGE.... | .B+ | .B+ | .B. | ...B+.. |

    | THOUGHTS:.. | ..Smoke Again.. | ...Buy a Box... | ...Recommend... |
    | Abyr....... | Probably not... | Probably not... | Probably not... |
    | ashauler... | Yes............ | Probably not... | Yes............ |
    | badwhale... | Probably not... | Definitely not. | Probably not... |
    | buzz....... | Maybe.......... | Definitely not. | Maybe.......... |
    | cigarsarge. | Maybe.......... | Probably not... | Maybe.......... |
    | Daigz...... | Yes............ | Maybe.......... | Yes............ |
    | EGQ........ | Maybe.......... | Maybe.......... | Yes............ |
    | Eville..... | Yes............ | Probably not... | Maybe.......... |
    | heftysmokes | Definitely..... | Maybe.......... | Yes............ |
    | Irish79.... | Definitely..... | Maybe.......... | Yes............ |
    | Mangyrat... | Yes............ | Probably not... | Yes............ |
    | Mizicke5273 | Definitely..... | Maybe.......... | Yes............ |
    | MrPlatypus. | Definitely..... | Yes............ | Yes............ |
    | Tdre977.... | Yes............ | Probably not... | Yes............ |

    LAST WORDS:

    Abyr: Not bad, but not really good either. There's other sticks in this price range I'd rather buy.
    ashauler: Won't be buying another box of these, but having some on hand is not a bad idea. Good cammy profile, easy on the pocket book, and no hard feelings if you have to pitch it.
    buzz: I am probably judging these mild cigars too harshly. If you dig the mild sticks this one is great. It would have been better if the sweetness had remained for more of the smoke, and it would have been fantastic if the spiciness had picked up a tad. The beer went well with the cigar. No neighbors called the cops for “noise pollution”, so that is a plus.
    cigarsarge: Not a bad smoke... I really expected a bit more from it. I'd rather have a Fuente or Partagas cameroon.
    Daigz: This was a really interesting smoke, I liked the little bit of sweetness with the spice. This is one that I will be looking for a 5 pack of. They seem right on par with the price point.
    EGQ: Good smoke, the sweet, peppery taste was pleasant.
    Eville: Not bad. I would value this one at $3.50-4.00. It's possible that I let the humidity get too low to release this stick's full potential.
    heftysmokes: Always a good one.
    Irish79: Enjoyable.
    Mangyrat: I really enjoyed this cigar. I prefer fuller bodied cigars but this cigar is something I will smoke again.
    Mizicke5273: Good smoke, well worth the time as it was pretty enjoyable and tasty. Further review will have to be performed before committing to a box, but I don't think it will take much to sway me. ;)
    MrPlatypus: This is not an evening smoke, as it is far, far too mild to end the night on. This would be about perfect right around noon or so with coffee. Definitely one I would recommend to a beginner, and one I would definitely smoke again if mellow was what I was looking for. A nice little cigar overall... I rather enjoyed it.
    Tdre977: A nice smoke, if I see them for a good price Id probably grab up a 5'er and give them another try.
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