Well went to the Don Pepin Garcia Cigar event and it kicked A$$! He was there with one of his master rollers who was rolling fresh cigars, you got one if you bought a box of Pepin cigars. So I did, got a box of Don Pepin El Rey de los Habanos Cigars Torpedos. Don Pepin rolled a couple cigars, on that looked like a baseball bat, and another that looked like a smoking pipe! It was awesome watching him roll them. They gave them away but I didn'y win. Later me and my boys went to a nearby Gentlemans Club but I can't talk about that LOL