Vehicle trunk+ florida heat +cigars?

Last spring I had an Ashton Classic and Carlos Torano unsure of which style. Both of these cigars seem to be very popular and highly praised. I decided I will buy two(one of each) as I am not good with change. :)

Needless to say I hated them both within 1" of starting the light and tossed them.

The POINT of this thread...well both cigars sat in my trunk for approx 3 days in their plastic bag with no humipack from the store. Could this be the cause of the nasty smoke I encountered? I figured a slightly dry cigar should still taste normal just a faster burn no?

Any insight is helpful!

~Eddie

Well due to the humidity & temp variations there are so many things that could happen to a cigar that the question is not really even worth asking. Plain and simple, your cigars went through hell and back, then you smoked them and tasted hell. Next time, place them in your humidor or in a plastic baggie with a damp paper towel. Bummer man!

Edit: About taste alterations... hot smoke even with the same taste will overpower your tastebuds. Also, think about your favorite nice cold beer, then leave it out in the FL sun for three days and drink it warm... probably taste like crap, so will the cigar.

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Originally Posted by Stryprod

Well due to the humidity & temp variations there are so many things that could happen to a cigar that the question is not really even worth asking. Plain and simple, your cigars went through hell and back, then you smoked them and tasted hell. Next time, place them in your humidor or in a plastic baggie with a damp paper towel. Bummer man!

Edit: About taste alterations... hot smoke even with the same taste will overpower your tastebuds. Also, think about your favorite nice cold beer, then leave it out in the FL sun for three days and drink it warm... probably taste like crap, so will the cigar.

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Assuming they went through hell would a month or two in a humidor bring them back to a palatable experience? It was a stupid move on my part. I just felt that tobacco is tobacco and should still be ok since it was only a few days.

I guess they are as delicate as it seems and humidors do alot more than look good and keep the from being crispy.

I have learned alot about cigars but still am a newb in this hobby/lifestyle.

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Originally Posted by guado

Assuming they went through hell would a month or two in a humidor bring them back to a palatable experience? It was a stupid move on my part. I just felt that tobacco is tobacco and should still be ok since it was only a few days.

I guess they are as delicate as it seems and humidors do alot more than look good and keep the from being crispy.

I have learned alot about cigars but still am a newb in this hobby/lifestyle.

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No problem, I am a noob too. I suggest searching or googling "cigar 101" or other related searches to help you out. Cigars seem to be most often equated with wine, and as I am sure you know, good wine is picky. Humidors are very important to have if you plan to smoke enough to warrant them, or you like the smoother more rounded taste of an aged cigar. If not, I say stick to buying some from your local B&M (Brick & Mortar) shop. This will allow you to just enjoy the smokes without the extra care just yet as well as talk with the regulars to gain knowledge. I saw in another post that you mentioned some Opus X at a friends shop... first, dont spend that kind of money on fine cigars at this level. Wait until you learn a bit more and ask if your buddy could hold some for you... paid for in advance of course. This allows you more time to learn while your fine cigars age in a great big humidor... and lastly, use the search for questions, ask questions and read online. Good luck and welcome fellow noob!

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Originally Posted by Stryprod

No problem, I am a noob too. I suggest searching or googling "cigar 101" or other related searches to help you out. Cigars seem to be most often equated with wine, and as I am sure you know, good wine is picky. Humidors are very important to have if you plan to smoke enough to warrant them, or you like the smoother more rounded taste of an aged cigar. If not, I say stick to buying some from your local B&M (Brick & Mortar) shop. This will allow you to just enjoy the smokes without the extra care just yet as well as talk with the regulars to gain knowledge. I saw in another post that you mentioned some Opus X at a friends shop... first, dont spend that kind of money on fine cigars at this level. Wait until you learn a bit more and ask if your buddy could hold some for you... paid for in advance of course. This allows you more time to learn while your fine cigars age in a great big humidor... and lastly, use the search for questions, ask questions and read online. Good luck and welcome fellow noob!

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It's not a friend. I was referred to this store a few months ago and finally made it. I will say I am a noob to humidors and some the ins and outs of cigars. However when it comes to a good smoke I do not play around. I am open to try new things(sometimes) but a fine smoke is easily noted. Particularly Opus X, will be having a diamond crown Maximus tonight.

I have been smoking regularly for about a year now and during that time given much consideration to enjoy the flavor transitions, quality of smoke, ash density/color, draw(I must say opus has the best draw to date of my experience). I do have my humidors set up properly that is for sure. I was taught well with those. I will be hoarding more opus and diamond crowns mainly for the purpose of aging. It seems every cigar I enjoy the most has a good age on it.

So yes I am a newb, however please do not mistake that as not enjoying a good, rich, full bodied cigar. :smiley37:

Have you smoked either of these cigars before?

It's entirely possible that you just don't like these cigars. Your palate may not be ready for them...

High heat and low RH for three days will make a cigar dry as a bone. Dry cigars burn hot and harsh.

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Originally Posted by SuperChuck

Have you smoked either of these cigars before?

It's entirely possible that you just don't like these cigars. Your palate may not be ready for them...

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Never, however friends that smoke them enjoy many similar cigars that I personally enjoy also.

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Originally Posted by Kenyth

High heat and low RH for three days will make a cigar dry as a bone. Dry cigars burn hot and harsh.

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So that is the "Hot smoke" comment from above. Makes perfect sense

I have been reading/lurking alot but never saw anything about a dry=hot harsh burn

Thanks

Yes...dry does equal hot and harsh.

Think of wood in the campfire. Damp wood doesn't burn well, and smokes a lot. Dry wood on the other hand smokes very little, but combust violently compared to the wet wood. Now think of your cigar. The higher the RH the "damper" it is.

Yes, dry=hot=harsh.

Florida is horrible when it comes to leaving your cigars unprotected.. Great humidity, but that doesn't keep your cigars protected from the heat. I suggest that if anyone plans to travel, they find the appropriate case to keep their cigars in. You need to find a rugged travel humidor, the ones I know are the Travel Trek or Road Warrior, Cigar Caddy, and even making a small coolidor... The tip when traveling is plan ahead. Especially if you're leaving your cigars in the elements.