What Happened ?!

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03-18-2007, 12:38 PM
chefchris

What Happened ?!

So, after a long day I come home and decide to light up a Gurkha Extra Fuerte Churchill. Take it out of the cello and everything looks fine, then i proceed to lighting and this thing goes crazy. Didn't notice at first, but then i see the wrapper had cracked almost half way up the stick and was peeling back. The ash was also very strange. It was extremely flaky and curled out the whole time. Not to mention I despised the taste. WTF happened?

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03-18-2007, 01:30 PM
bigsmoke

I have seen a gurkha virtually explode when smoked. I don't know why though. My guess would be it was maybe rolled too tight?
03-18-2007, 01:53 PM
cigarsarge

Too much moisture...What humidity level are you storing your smokes?
03-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Eshaw99

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Originally Posted by cigarsarge

Too much moisture...What humidity level are you storing your smokes?

I agree w/ sarge. Filler tobacco will absorb the extra moisture more quickly than the wrapper leaf. When this happens, the filler expands faster than the wrapper leaf (which at this point is less pliable) can handle, causing it to crack. The same thing happens when you try to re-humidify a dried out cigar too quickly.
03-18-2007, 02:18 PM
bigsmoke

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Originally Posted by Eshaw99

I agree w/ sarge. Filler tobacco will absorb the extra moisture more quickly than the wrapper leaf. When this happens, the filler expands faster than the wrapper leaf (which at this point is less pliable) can handle, causing it to crack. The same thing happens when you try to re-humidify a dried out cigar too quickly.

I disagree, I keep my cigars at 75%-80% humidity, i like them nice and soft. When I cut the foot I always get a claen solid chunk to come off perfectly and non of my smokes end up looking like Chris's.
03-18-2007, 02:21 PM
drew_goring

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Originally Posted by bigsmoke

I disagree, I keep my cigars at 75%-80% humidity, i like them nice and soft. When I cut the foot I always get a claen solid chunk to come off perfectly and non of my smokes end up looking like Chris's.

Have you done the salt test on your hygrometer?

Your 75-80% could very well be my 65-70%.
03-18-2007, 02:28 PM
bigsmoke

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Originally Posted by drew_goring

Have you done the salt test on your hygrometer?

Your 75-80% could very well be my 65-70%.

I have teseted it, it is accurate. I like my cigars to rest at 75% and smoke them slightly lower. That is where I get my best burn.
03-18-2007, 02:34 PM
Eshaw99

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsmoke

I disagree, I keep my cigars at 75%-80% humidity, i like them nice and soft. When I cut the foot I always get a claen solid chunk to come off perfectly and non of my smokes end up looking like Chris's.

Chris never told us what his humidity was. I don't think that 75-80% is way too high (higher than I store mine, but that's a different story). When the humidity in your humidor gets too high, it can cause structural problems in the cigar, not to mention the possibility of burn issues and/or mold.
03-18-2007, 03:03 PM
chefchris

i keep em at around 65%. i just smoked a Napelese Warrior that came out of the same humi and it smoked fine. I've had that Gurkha in there for maybe a month, so I will let them rest for a while before I try another.
03-18-2007, 03:48 PM
kevin7

Sometimes you just get a poorly made cigar. It happens to every cigar maker even(contrary to popular belief) Fuente. God thing about buying high end smokes from a local retailer is you can return them and chat with the owner. When you buy stuff like Gurkha Extra Fuerte Churchill ect ect you get poorly handled and stored cigars from the goons at cigars international . yeah I got an axe to grind with CI if you havent already noticed LOL
03-18-2007, 06:40 PM
boomshay

don't let that turn you off to the stick... i had one a few nights ago and thouroughly enjoyed it
03-18-2007, 09:14 PM
bigsmoke

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Originally Posted by boomshay

don't let that turn you off to the stick... i had one a few nights ago and thouroughly enjoyed it

Totally true, in any given box there can be some crappy cigars. Every one cannot be made perfectly.
03-18-2007, 10:02 PM
BunkyX

I have had this problem with them also. A little more rest in the humi usually does the trick. I have figured it is a moisture problem especially if they came from a new box that hadn't had time to adjust at the B&M.:smiley37: