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Agreed. Exactly the same as if an 11 year old daughter walks past. She probably won't read fuck in size 12 font, but she sure as heck is going to see a picture of a semi-nude woman on the pc screenQuote:
Originally Posted by hex1848
Ya hear that Kevin...you can't say fuck or cuss anymore...:smiley18:
Hex,
That makes perfect sense. Had it been explained to me like that this morning, I would have removed the photo sooner. The fact is I was asked to do something by someone I didn't know and in return I asked why. Sorry that offended you Basil.
What's wrong..... didn't get my PM..... here it is again....Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
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Woody......
The best bet would be for you to remove your avatar... no need to get into a pissing match with one of the established members over a picture. Basil is not a moderator and neither am I... but this is a self moderated forum and we are asking you to change your avatar. Guys who come here visit while they are at work and at home with their family members... it might be a little embarassing if someone had to explain to his boss or their daughter what the pic was.
As far as Basil's sigtag having the word "fuck" in it.... you are comparing apples to oranges... Pictures tend to catch peoples eye... That is why the most interesting pictures are placed on the covers of magazines in the supermarket.... to catch your attention....
I think that is what basil is trying to avoid.... your avatar catching the attention of people it is not supposed to.....
Tommy
Tommy,
I got your message tonight when I logged on, not this morning.
Thanks!
Are you fucking done crying woody,better get a tampon for the bleeding too asswipe
Obviously you are a man of class. I'm sure your 11 year old daughter would be proud of her daddy when she reads your post. I took the photo down like you asked so I don't get the hostility.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin7
Because you have been a member here for all of about 10 seconds now and have a serious smartass attitude toward long time, established members. I refer you to CgarDan's response as a model of how NOT to bring a world of shit down on your head when a long time member "calls you out."Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
See, he gets it and is looking like he will become a long time established member here that is supported and appreciated. You, don't! How you proceed from this point forward will let us know if you will ever get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CgarDan
can we gat a clean up in aisle 3???.....:smiley17:
VW, this site is built mainly on reputation and respect. After that comes generosity, comraderie, and other warm and fuzzy shit. Asshats, scumbags, trolls are recognized (usually pretty quick) as such and are dealt with accordingly. At this point, I don't find your old avatar nearly as offensive as your belligerent, sarcastic, nasty attitude. You should stop stomping on your dick right now, apologize, and then shut the fuck up for a while and hang out and read and pay attention.
If you think you're gonna take on this board over your lame-ass contrivances you sarcastically submit as proprieties, then you are a straight-up dumbass.
That's gonna leave a mark.
My nasty attitude?
You sent me a pm basically telling me what to do without saying why. I ask why you cared, not like it's a written rule. Then you start a thread calling me out and post my private message to you in a pubic forum where you used the F word in the same paragraph where you stated this place should be suitable for 11 year old girls. Posting the private message was classy BTW.
Had you sent me another pm explaining the way your board works we wouldn't be on the 3rd or 4th page of this crap. I came here with an open mind looking to exchange cigar information presumably like the rest of you. I took down the photo, apologized for offending you and threw in a joke filled with F Bombs for your benefit since you seem to advocate such language. Sorry the joke was lost on you.
I will treat you with the same level of respect that you show me.
Have a nice day!
:smiley16:
woody...you seem to be wound a bit tight......fiber!!!!...that's what you need...
lots and lots of cigar info is exchanged here....lots and lots of fun,trades,gifts,and more....
want to fit in and enjoy all of this??....then try a bit harder...right now it's not working...your way....why not try it OUR way??...
if not...you can find other assclowns at stogiechat.com
Your argument is POOR and FLAWED. There are SEVERAL of us who have asked you NICELY (without the use of profanity) to take down your avatar (I even sent you a PM to view my post) and JUSTIFIED why. Yet the ridiculous thing is you keep going back to what basil has said to you and keep continuing to CRY about it like a TWO YEAR OLD.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
Yeah, so basil may have come off a little strong, but his point was valid and the majority of the board AGREES. Get over it, ok? :smiley20:
Shagaroo hit the nail right on the head. Take his advice or you won't last here long Skippy...:smiley2:
As a relatively new member of this board I have been sitting back watching this thread develop. I want to preface this post by saying there is absolutely no disrespect intended for any other board members; long-time posters as well as anyone new.
basil’s sig line reads:Quote:
Originally Posted by basil
It struck me as ironic that, based on your 11 year old daughter scrolling through this web site, something like VW’s av would be unacceptable and yet dropping “F” bombs, saying “GD”, and talking about a woman “trying to piss in her own mouth” is somehow acceptable. You go on to point out in another post about how you “see a difference between profanity and degradation of women” and yet there is another long-time member, kevin7, that has the following tag line under his name, in large print, and next to a moving av that is definitely an eye-catcher.Quote:
Originally Posted by basil
“the ornery motherfucker,cigar smoking asshole,slayer
of Gamelover who is lying cheating scumbag from Warren PA”
How can the word “MF” be anything but degrading and yet it appears to be totally acceptable.
Hopefully one can see how all of this can be confusing to new members. One long-time member says this site is to be appropriate to the point that his 11 year old daughter could scroll through it and then another long-time member turns around and says it’s not to be family friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mauied1101
Again, not to be disrespectful, but all this can be very confusing to someone just starting to participate. One of the reasons I am writing this post is because my 16 year old son did indeed peruse this thread (BTW – he thought the tag line of Bkcloud114 “Has the biggest member” was hilarious). My fault for leaving it up but I have been trying to instill in him that cigar smoking requires maturity and now I am stuck with the task of explaining that what he has been reading is not a reflection of all cigar smokers and in fact probably not a true reflection of even the individuals making these comments.
I have really enjoyed the short period of time I have been on this board. I have come to an understanding that, although I am almost 53 years old, there is a lot for me to learn about cigars and cigar smoking. I have come to respect some members of this board like bigpoppapuff, godfather, and others. It is my intention to continue to be a part of this board and, over time, gain acceptance. However, if being a part of this board means I have to view the use of “F” bombs, “MF’s”, or degrading comments like the tampon remark of kevin7 as acceptable, then I was way off in my initial assessment this board.
JC
This is an adult board for people 18 and over to participate on. There are, however, some concessions made to accomodate the members here who often logon from work. One concession is that graphic avatars not be used and any questionable pictures be placed in a thread clearly marked NSFW. Words, typed in very small fonts, are less likely to attract the attention of anyone, of any age, that might happen to glance at the screen. Pictures grab peoples attention more than typed text. Most people, children or adults, would not even bother seeing what you are reading and pay no attention to it. A picture is different.
That is simply the way it is done around here and we don't plan on changing unless Hex decides there is a problem with it.
You also have to earn the right to piss in the sandbox around here. JC, you and CgarDan both have conducted yourself well in this thread. Lil'Woody has not.
Houston, I understand your point. This thread has nothing to do anymore with the avatar or sig-tag's. We'll get to this in a minute...
There is a difference between a lewd picture and text on a screen though in general. Since most people who would glance at a screen, or be walking by at work or home would not see the language as that would require stopping and focusing, they would see the picture.
That being said, do some of the guys use strong language, yes, do you have to, no. But, beyond that, the reason the guys continue is because this is an established community, some of us have been here a good while and believe we have developed something terrific. When new people come and are asked to change something, the response shouldn't be NO, unless the request is unreasonable to the extent of being offensive for all the politically correct reasons out there. At most it should be, okay, it's changed, but I'm just curious, why do you guys use profanity...
The reason for this, is that essentially this is a public board, but it is a community with established mores and a sort of unwritten (and written, see the TOA) code. When you go to a new country or city, and are checking things out, if a local asks you to change something simple that doesn't take away any serious right or freedom, you do it and then ask questions later respecting the culture. Same here, guys are mad because Vegas didn't treat the situation that way.
And so, the moral is, when you first arrive here, observe, interact, but most importantly, respect the culture that is here. If you end up not liking it, then you can go, no harm, no foul, no one is offended.
i see your point,jc....and as an aside...you seem to be accepted...and you seem to "get it".....as another aside...thanks for the nice words about me....i try..i really fucking try...:smiley2:
in a short time you'll see what's up with most of us...we bust balls...and we clean up alot of messes....soon you'll be helping clean up too....when asswipes like daveyboy or others come on and do what they do....
kevin can say anything he wants...he has pictures of all of us with a sexy,horny fourth grade teacher.....day=um...what a party that was...:smiley20:
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Originally Posted by VegasWoody
vegass woody mention my daughter or any other family member in a post again and I promise you will not like it here fucktard
JCHouston my signature is a gift from the OWNER of this board, you dont like it go whine in his ear,I dont give a fuck either way
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Originally Posted by kevin7
No shit, it's one thing for someone to mention a hypothetical 11 year old daughter, but don't bring peoples families into this. That is entirely uncalled for.
:smiley36: Yeah, your nasty, smartass, bullshit "who, me?" attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
The first part of this sentence is a lie. :smiley3: Now, the "why" part. If you've read everything on this thead and still need to ask this, you're just being obtuse. :smiley36: Had you spent some time getting a feel for the place before becoming so indignant about a polite suggestion, you'd not be wondering "why."Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
:smiley36: Actually, the first post was started a day before you asked your all-important "why". Had it mattered to you, you'd of read the thread and we wouldn't have to, as you say, be three pages deep in trollshit. :smiley36: Dude, this isn't about 11-yr-olds anymore. And, I'm with K7 on this: mention, or hint at mentioning anyone's family on this board from this point forward is going to be way fucking ugly for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
Whoops! :smiley3: Now I know you're a troll. Somehow your being socially retarded has become my fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
:smiley3: :smiley3: An innocent, defenseless, well-intentioned troll, no less!Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
:smiley36: This doesn't wash, Mr. VegasIAmTheThickestPersonYou'veEverMetWoody, for a couple of reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
- you cracked your little "joke" after letting me know that you found my use of the word "fuck" to be offensive, leaving little doubt as to whether you were being funny or sarcastic.
- Anyone wanting to make a sincere apology wouldn't risk delivering it with sarcasm.
:smiley32:BoyHowdyShit. My favorite line. Another dumbass, socially retarded troll thinking he can walk in and be entitled to everyone's respect - fuck earning it - after making malicious, disrespectful comments toward folks he does not know, or even care to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody
Whatever. :smiley29:Quote:
Originally Posted by VegasWoody