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For a second there I thought those were links to dumbass posts I had made!!! :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by drew_goring
Yeah, all of those are great, and probably stickied somewhere, but not everyone goes through each forum and reads every sticky (or even understands what the heck that is). So yes, my point was incorporate good guidelines and rules like those in a more direct up front way.
-W.
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Originally Posted by cigar no baka
a perfect example of what i'm saying....who appointed you traffic cop of the day??....i find the sig to be kind of funny.....and remember,i said this guy was invited here by me...shit on him..you're shitting on me...
Can't we all just get along? :smiley36:
-W.
Does it really bother you that much, and do I care either way?Quote:
Originally Posted by cigar no baka
Here's what I think:
I think when a few of the FOGs that are here first came, they stirred up a lot of shit with asshats that were current members. They explained to us that sometimes shit needs to be stirred and its best to let things play out on its own. these FOGs flamed members that they followed here from other boards in all threads they posted in. the politics forum was created to keep flame wars in. now, when big headed newbs come and stir up shit, those threads get moved to the politics forum where many engage in these flame wars. the newb manages to piss off a bunch of people, then he is quickly banned. things are no longer alloud to play out on their own. i think the asshats should be alloud to stay as long as the flaming is kept in the right place. and if someone has a problem with that person, feed him his ass. make them not want to be here anymore.
How about you quote that beating he took? Seems to me he popped off in a thread in politics and opened himself to debate. Which happened and remained rather civil, considering the usual debate tactics your buddy uses through over 1300 posts between CR and HP (where he was temp banned at least twice). By the way, out of those 1300+ posts no more than 30 actually had anything to do with cigars. Funny that...Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
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http://cigarrebellion.12.forumer.com...ff17456f0#4012Quote:
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Funny how thin skinned yer buddy got when he signed up over here and didn't have the numbers to back him up for his usual debate tactics. It remained civil and now all the sudden he was some poor noobler beat up by us mean old forum regulars.
Wah.....
that’s classyQuote:
STFU you priest sucking piece of retarded shit.
Hmmm...I don't normally condone bringing crap from other boards over here...
pot: Hey kettle
kettle: yeah?
pot: You're black!
kettle: :smiley19:
Well, see, that's the thing. The drum that has been beaten here for quite a while now has been reputation travels. What happens on others board does matter. Whether you are a liar, a thief, or just a miserable bastard that exists only to attack others. Many here, myself included, have been banned from other forums for brow beating the admins and members over shitheads like puro and scotty. Hell, we killed thecigarforum.com to get the guy to toss scotty and some guy from stogie chat.Quote:
Originally Posted by drew_goring
That drum just gets real quiet when it's someone's friend or something like that.
Actually, before CR moved, I have plenty of cigar related posts, not that that has shit to do with anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagaroo
When I signed up over here, I started participating in a civil political discussion. I was asked to back off. I must have been too rough on someone. I don't need, nor have I ever had, the "numbers" to back me up. I can handle myself just fine. Always have, always will.
BTW, those are some of my better posts:smiley44:
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Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
Sid, I didn't beat the guy up. I did what we do to all members who become members just to post some for sale thread (and usually do it in the wrong area or multiple areas), and really intend to take there money and run. You participated quite willingly in playing with that British guy who was trying to sell stuff. I laid down what the guy didn't want to hear, he wanted a quick buck, got called on it and got mad. It took him a while to change his tune from, "I'm just trying to sell some guys who know about cigars, I don't need this..." to, "I want to be a part of your board and contribute."
I smelled his BS, and if you look at the time and date stamps, nobody other than Basil and I engaged this guy for pretty much the first couple days. So, there was no ganging up, just a simple, we don't want people who come to sell, make a buck, and leave. Those are the people who a true newb could unsuspectingly engage in a sale with and get screwed.
And yes, you do belong here, you're just as stubborn as the rest of us ;-)
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Originally Posted by Shagaroo
This makes sense, I want to know when a child molester lives in my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
Then please tell me why you're not happy with the way things are done here? If those are your "better" posts, how can you say what happens here is so bad you can't stand to hang around?
I have to be honest - I'm very confused, because it REALLY surprises me that both you and Sid are showing some side to your personalities I've never seen before...
Me too. But I bet we have different reasons. :smiley9:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMacFU
If you didn't see this side of my personality before, you weren't looking. There are some things/topics that I get fired up about. I rarely start the shit, but will fling it back at will, and in large quantities, when provoked.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
What I have a problem with here, as well as hp, is when a poster gets into a good discussion, and is asked to back off, when the other posters are allowed to continue unrestrained. That is the bullshit. If you want to be like hp, go right ahead.
It is not news that I prefer self moderated smash mouth boards. I have a home here and another board that take that approach.
Boards of this nature do have the potential of running off people that might be positive contributors...But a vast majority of people realize if they are not shills and pass the thick skin test things will work out.
People have come here, pissed in the Wheaties, taken a little verbal hazing, and became good members. Shills and AssHats have departed rather quickly.
We have a good group of people here. SDMV if you want to stay by all means do. You're gonna take some heat...Hell we all take some heat here from time to time. If you don't like the atmosphere here than do what you must.
Sid...I hope you are not serious about saying this place might not be for you. You're one of the good guys.
why don't we do this...let's just chase everyone who has a different point of view as george and shag...okay......beautiful!!....
i'll stop asking people to come over here..God forbid...some of the members here might think they're assholes.....bullshit!!!....this is absolute bullshit!!!...
we're too quick on the trigger....if you can't see it...you're fucking blind....
i'm really pissed....thanks for your support george....it's your board...do with it as you please....
Other than PGuy, who have we run off so quickly? The person before that was that British guy who was just looking for a profit. Which, I would argue was exactly what PGuy was doing until he sought to garner some support by saying, oh yeah, I want to contribute to the community too.
shelby07
valuman wasn't run off but didn't really like the vibe here...same as cigardude,and about six other guys that i asked to come over......
if you can't see that the gang mentality is hurting us...then there's no more i can say....
too many guys are trying to impress with how quick they can get rid of anyone...some have agreed with what i'm saying....
i'm pissed...and pretty much done....
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Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
You're wrong here, Sid. This guy got called on his shit. He took a nasty swipe at the already-established, reputable member who called him out. He fired first by not reading the rules. He was called on it. He fired again with his rudeness toward a member. Then he got called out some more and then he got nasty and began lying.
I don't think I'm trying to impress anyone - this board has an integrity that is worth more than any one person's opinion. And I'll be one who'll step up to preserve it.
You're making noises like you're going to leave if we don't change our ways and opinions. I personally see this as manipulative. However, I'll bite. Also personally, I will be very much aggrieved if you leave this board. You have a vast knowledge of cigars - and you are important to this board. I've said as much to past trolls who have taken swipes at you.
It's too bad about shelby and valueman. But, this partguy got what he had coming.
Shelby left of his own accord. We didn't hound him, we didn't go around insulting constantly. Same with the other guy.
You know, I was agreeing with you on Partyasshatguy, and I still do. I agree, sometimes we need to first try giving folks a nudge in the right direction and not just immediately jump bad on them. Things have gotten out of hand and we need to tone it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
But damn Sid, this drama shit about SDVM just ain't you and you need to calm down and let it go. If SDVM reigns in his attacking family members and other out of line shit like that, I don't care if he stays or goes and dances the fairy dance on the beach. I tried to tell you before it didn't have spit to do with politics. You didn't want to hear it. You still don't want to hear it. I don't care if he rants until he pops a vessel about politics, but I won't support some clown tearing down peoples family members and personal values and morals because he gets some sick kick out of it.
one of the reasons i left CR (where i was an admin) was because of the bullshit....i assure you that barry was goaded into slinging shit...most likely with korryp who is a piece of shit,imho.....i assure you that barry is a really good guy,a good friend,and though you may not like the fact that he's a democrat and hates shrub,he'd be a good addition here.....if i'm going to bring people over here..i'm only bringing those that would make a good addition..
Sid, we know you wouldn't bring anyone who you didn't think was a solid addition. I have total respect for you, and I agree we shouldn't go chasing every newbie out (nor do I think we do this), but I just think you and I see differently with P-Guy, he's the only one though I know of. I didn't say anything about DVM because I shut my ears when politics start being discussed because I know it's just not going to go anywhere very often. Other than P-guy, I don't think we've had too many nooblers running off with their tails between their legs.
I must be psychic...Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
There is no excuse for some of things he has posted and you trying to misdirect the conversation away from it isn't going to help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagaroo
I think I remember reading a post here about not jumping in on a thread where the "established" members were fucking with an "asshat" because you might not have all the facts. Well, with the linked CR thread, same thing. There was a lot of history between me and those others involved in the thread that you obviously don't know about, not that it's any of your business. I can smoke and joke with the best of them, but most of those threads began with them attacking me and my positions on several topics, as well as my career etc. I was giving it right back. It's not in my nature to take shit from anyone. HP was the same kind of crap. They expected me to take shit from people and not return fire, and I was banned for it. BTW, I was only banned from hp once. I chose not to return because they wanted me to ask, or more accurately, beg to get back in. I never even considered going back to that shithole.
This BB seems to have a lot in common with HP. Same shit, different handles.
Actually, I have been around these forums longer than you seem to think I have been. I knew who you were when you signed up and had known who you were for some time. You can try all you want to justify the crap you spew, it don't fly. You are a supposed highly educated adult yet you seldomly act like it.
The Internet is one of the worst forms of communication on the planet. Lets face it. Even in this thread people are confusing who is the subject of certain comments and who isn't. Confusion reigns.... I think everyone needs to take a step back, take a breath and get things back on track.
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-W.
The thought police are here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagaroo
Actually, you don't know shit about me, your comments prove it. If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat". Just as bad as the people you claim to be policing for everyone elses benefit. Dare I say major-like. You're just like the other internet punks, who attack someone who has a different social, political, or religious view than you do, and cry like a baby when they attack back. In fact, you're probably just another alter-ego of one of the assholes I've told to fuck-off in the past.
Basically, you've created a nice little safe haven from people you think are "asshats", and damn whatever anyone else thinks. Eventually, you'll be here all by yourself.:smiley44:
we're all the same people we have been, sid. i agree with you 100% about the quick trigger pulling, but more people disagree. you're taking this way too personal. you're bringing people here that don't like the way things are done here, or they don't get along with the general population of this board. what you think to be a good addition isn't necessarily a good addition in everyone else's opinion. it shouldn't mean you don't belong here. we can't agree on everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff
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Ah yes, when all else fails, lie! I will, however, thank you for continueing to prove my initial point when you arrived, that you are nothing but trouble and join these forums solely to cause problems. :smiley20: By the way, YOU are the one who goes around calling people whose political, social and religious views are different from yours idiots, scumbags, cumbags for God, repugs, dumbya lovers, etc. Please quote me where anyone here has trashed you for your political, social or religious views!Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
And for the record, we have far more high quality new guys coming in that like it here to fill the gaps of the few asshats and whiners that leave out of here with a tear in their eye and a hurt butt.
I don't lie about anything. If you have evidence of lying, please present such, if not...fuck off. Also, you posted links from another BB, about subjects you know nothing about, and claim you know something about me. I consider that an attack. If you pussies are so thin skinned you take offense to my sig. or me using the terms pube etc., then who are the real crybabies? I know who is, but you and your group of sycophants obviously don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagaroo
Would you like to see the PM I got asking me to back off on a political thread when I got here? No, I'm not going to post it. I don't give enough of a shit about what you think of me.
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Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
I'm sure you'd really like to believe that was true... What happens if it's not? That would really suck - wouldn't it...
My view of what I've seen of you in action is you thrive on the argument. You love drama. You cannot let ANYTHING go. And if the argument doesn't go your way - you start with the foul crap to drag the whole mess into the toilet with you. It there is no argument - you create one. You've already started a bit of that pattern here...
I don't know what it is you're really looking for in an Internet cigar board. You say this is not it - HP was not it - CR was not it... There are other boards which are less tolerant of flaming - but I sense they wouldn't be your cup of tea either...
Maybe I'm way off mark on this, but I believe you couldn't stay away from this board if we paid you to stay away - there's enough drama and members here to keep you fueled for a long time. :smiley2:
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Pardon? Did you say something? :smiley2: :smiley36:Quote:
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-W.
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To read the posts, you get a little window into the character. Once the smell starts to drift in, THEN you use ignore. :smiley14:
I find this tagline funny and have sent it to some friends.
I am a member of the Repugnant Party and did vote for Dumbya - twice. However, I'm here about the cigars. For politics, I stick to the blogs. If you continue to use that tagline here, you are TROLLING. I'd much rather go smoke a cigar and sip some port.Quote:
To all Repugs, neocons, and especially dumbya lovers :smiley38:
Yeah buddy, it's all about the sig tag... Talk about delusional.Quote:
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Not an attack, simply a character witness.Quote:
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ATTENTION, ATTENTION, this is one of the stupidest arguments put forth on internet BB's in the world:
"If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat"."
I don't care who uses it, this is the last time I want to read it. When one BB personality responds to another BB personality with something like, "I know how you are, I know you from all these other places, and I know you're a jerk, meanie, etc...," clearly the BB personality does NOT mean, I "know" you in any existentially important manner, and definitely not in any Biblical sense. Clearly the reference, unless otherwise qualified (which it rarely is), is that they know how you are as a BB personality. And of course, on the world of BB's, that's all we can know if we've never met the other BB personality in real life, and so we can only go by BB behavior.
Edited here to add an analogy: Spud Webb can jump wicked high on Earth, Spud decides to fly to Jupiter and tell all the martians how he can jump real high, they say prove it, so he jumps, and it's wicked low. Spud Webb may be a totally different person on Earth, he may have Michael and Charles and Kareem fly out to Jupiter to reaffirm the martians, no really, he CAN jump high, it's just in another world. Spud then says, "you martians are stupid for not thinking I can jump high." The martians reply, "But, when you jump in this world it is not high, it is very low." Spud then says, "But it doesn't matter if I am not that way here, because I am on Earth, so treat me for how I am on Earth, not for how I am here." Now, do the martians REALLY no Spud Web, no, they don't, because they don't know him in the context of how he spends the majority of his life, which is on Earth, having one of the best vertical leaps ever! But, as far as they do know him, that is, what he has shown him on their world (Jupiter), he is not one of the best vertical leapers, he's one of the worst. Two things to take away from this, one is the obvious, it is clear that there can be a difference between someone in real life and in the virtual world of the internet, and that pretty much anyone who has been around long enough knows this and thus bases most of what they say off of this "virtual personality." The more important point is though, whether we are in the virtual world or not, there should be no difference between who we are in reality and our "virtual personality." Obviously, the latter point doesn't have any bearing on the argument put forth before this analogy. But, it is a good thought to put out there anyway.
Now you know and knowing is half the battle. --GI Joe
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