No Dave, everything that I have said here was said to you in the emails. If you would get the anger out of your eyes and read them for what they are you would see that.
Why do you continue to yell at me? You are very degrading, not that I care.
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No Dave, everything that I have said here was said to you in the emails. If you would get the anger out of your eyes and read them for what they are you would see that.
Why do you continue to yell at me? You are very degrading, not that I care.
So you don't intend to make it right, Carlos??? The "...not that I care..." you wrote is troubling...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblik
This is water under the bridge...I am not angry with you Carlos. I was the idiot that put these cigars in a pass, live and learn as they say, but that hurt me more than anything. Being burned by you doesn't hurt near as much as me burning my friends down the line in the box pass I am currently hosting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblik
I tried in vain via email, as has been published, to help yourself make things right. The result is what it is...you on the Bad Traders and Scumbag List.
I feel better knowing you have been exposed and the cigar community...all forums...are now "in the loop"
Dave...let's move on huh?
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Originally Posted by ggiese
This is after all the drama...Not the direct affect
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
thanks for the biggest laugh i have had since all this started ...Roham should apologize to the community?!?!?...........that is funny :smiley36:
so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time....but I'm sure that's nobody you know either) and it JUST SO HAPPENS that all of you know about the situation with Oblik and decide that that is going to totally dominate these boards regardless of what anyone else says under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices, and WE are the bad guys because we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
And by the way, I don't really care if I misspelled anything, so you don't have to tell me if I did. :smiley2:
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Here we have another case of someone who has no idea what he's talking about, levies groundless accusations and is pretty much clueless. Who's "totally dominating" what boards here? A few posts questioning Oblik's behavior is only an extremely small percentage of the total posts on this site in the last week. You are exaggerating and it makes you look foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Your "guess" is wrong. I'm still looking for the "five" people. :smiley24: Many of us are members at various boards, unlike you labmonkeyboy who appears to only be a member here. This is not one big grand conspiracy as you have concluded. You should really get out there and explore other cigar boards, it will do you some good.
Gee, isn't that just too bad that you don't like some of my posts, you're just going to have to quit whining about it and stop acting like a baby.
You better get used to it because when people like Oblik behave the way they do and screw people in trades and post nasty posts, there are going to be posts about it in return. If you'd pull your head out of your a$$, you'd understand how beneficial to the entire community this is.
Tell ya what, let's you and I do a trade, I'll trade you five Cuban cigars for five or your Opus X and you send me your Opus X and I'll send you some fake Cuban cigars. Then when you email me or PM me about it, I'll ignore you or lie to you. Since you are such a nice guy an all, you won't make any negative posts about me if I bend you over on the trade. You're just the kind of guy I WANT to trade with since you're so nice an' all. So whadda say, wanna trade some cigars with me? I've got REAL Cuban cigars, I SWEAR TO GOD (cause I know you won't say anything bad about me when I screw you on the deal).
You really need to grow up and smarten up labmoney.....
hey, i'll admit the posts and what not were getting annoying to me, only because at first they were spread out among diff posts and it was annoying. But now its contained in i believe two threads. So now they dont bother me.
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
and who would that be, labmonkey? It seems to me that most have been pretty tolerant of my views - but you seemed troubled. Others have expressed themselves, I've responded. That irritates you? It doesn't irritate me - I can have a frank discussion with someone without me being offended. Can you? Can WE (you and me) talk about that? I don't understand your trepidation...Quote:
"...we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT."
YesQuote:
"so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time...."
Nope - I couldn't possibly do that. Not in a million years. Very egotistcal of you to think so. But, this place can destroy itself - without mine or anyone else's help... For example - you want to see this site go down? Keep doing box passes like the first one that was done around here where two nice cigars are missing, and possible fake cigars were put in - or people are taking nice cigars and placing garbage in their place... That'll do it... Especially if members aren't allowed to express themselves because it would not be nice...Quote:
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
But you make a good point, monkey - Oblik being a mod COULD be a problem, if he conducts himself on this board as he did on the LTC board. Go and check that place out - if you can get in to the private club they have established over there - I'm sure Oblik will let you in. But wait a few days, the hard drive went down and you can't read any posts right now... And while you're over there, send PuroBrat some cigars - he needs them...
Not a pretense, and we ARE doing you a favor.Quote:
under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices
I never said that - I think you're drawing conclusions again - I just disagree with you. But that's okay - you can disagree with me, I don't mind...Quote:
and WE are the bad guys
Well I guess we all can't like every post all the time. That's the trial and tribulations of an on-line BB, oh well. On the other hand, some may find it annoying that Oblik is allowed to run roughshod over people with his sometimes generally nasty attitude. Maybe you don't because he's your buddy or something but others find him offensvie. :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by QuietC
Personally I think there's hope for him, I think he may see the error of his ways in due time.
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]Did Oblik screw you personally Coventry?Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
[QUOTE=labmonkey]No, I've never met him so we never had the opportunity to fornicateQuote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Am I missing something here, or was this original post deleted??? I don't see it in this thread anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
:smiley36: alright that was funny...but you know what i meant.
i'm tired of talking about this crap. I really let it get to me for a few days, and I see no that it's just a waste of time.
I still think it's time to let this stuff die, and get on with normal life, and stop poking at each other (and I'm sure you will blame me for causing it, and you are right to an extent because I should have seen from the beginning that it would be a wasted effort in trying to convince any of you guys to stop this crap) . But if I remember correctly Dave was the one that got the bad deal....he's a big boy....let him handle it. BE ADULTS FOR GOD'S SAKE!
How old are you guys? This place turned into an elementary school playground overnight with all this name calling and crap going on....my only point all along has been "CUT IT OUT"
This is not what I'm here for....
Someone posted earlier that we are all entitled to our opinion and that's mine.
[QUOTE=ggiese]Thread 46...last paragraph....Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Am I missing something here, or was this original post deleted??? I don't see it in this thread anymore...
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Oh I see, just because YOU didn't get abused or screwed over on a deal means no one should talk about it, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Sorry money but you're just going to have to look at posts when someone screws up.
In my case, Oblik was rude, nasty and abusive towards me on the Island of the Misfit Toys and was instrumental in having me banned. And yes, I didn't like it and neither did a whole lot of other guys, many of whom I do not even know.
So too bad, you're just going to have to live with people talking about it. The problem here is Oblik, not me or ggiese or CoventryCat or anyone else.
Tell ya what, why don't you convince Oblik to clean up his act. If and when Oblik ever does you'll see a heck of a lot less trouble around here.
Why the hell don't you practice what you preach? If you don't like peoplethen why do you post inflamatory comments like this?:Quote:
poking at each other
You're worse than Oblik at this point GROW UP you punk.Quote:
How old are you guys? This place turned into an elementary school playground overnight with all this name calling and crap going on
group hug? anyone?.......so, how bout them cigars?........ :smiley17:
What is your purpose, Monkey? Are you trying to save the board from the "great invasion"?
I've already told you - no one person (or group of people) is going to destroy this place - very egotistical of you to think so...Quote:
We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
As far as screwing people, I think Oblik's attitude is what's screwing people - whether it's his trading practices, or his heavy handed mod practices that's screwing people - he's screwing people. You're attitude is inflammatory - supporting suspicious trading practices is inflammatory.
I'll tell you what - read for yourself how a bad situation is handled in an unmoderated manner. It's a little uncomfortable at some points, but I suggest you read it ALL the way through - FROM BEGINNING TO THE END!!! The resolution is worth the read!!!
The Members introductory post
Members sale page (WARNING - IT GETS ROUGH)
Review of cigars sent to members
The Member apologizes to the community
The ironic part of those posts is the guy thought he truly had REAL product - and he was WRONG. His product was true from its origins, but not true labeling, so I dare to say, a bit more legit than Oblik's, which are of suspicious origins all together. Yet, this guy did some further reasearch, realized his mistake, and APOLOGIZED to the community. Fortunately, no one was out anything because no trades were done. But he could have just as easily just walked away and chalked it up to experience. Had he done that, however, he would have been outed at any other board he went to - such as what Dave has done here.
I'm glad to see Oblik has NOT been locking threads and deleting posts. And he's been very quiet through these discussions. Hopefully, he understands and appreciates the gravity of his actions, which will shape his decisions in the future.
[QUOTE=Moheganson]Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
grade school name calling. :smiley32:
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Hey, I'm just operating at your level. I see you cannot refute anything else I said can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moheganson
Again, why don't you practice what you preach? You are obvioulsy incapabale of that, aren't you?
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Why is it you pick one sentence out of a post to focus on? You continue to focus on other than the meat of the post as being the essence of the post (i.e. "grade school name calling").Quote:
Originally Posted by Moheganson
Are you satisfied or not satisfied with any of the points made on any of these posts? Or, are you more interested in participating in flame wars, firing baseless accusations, and in general, being disrespectful of new members? (the kinds of things that eventually bring a online bb down).
You're acidic attitude is not very becoming :smiley26:
I have tried several times to reason with several of you on different levels to no avail. It does no good. I chose that line because i thought it proved my point pretty well.
If you want to talk cigars let me know, Ill see you on the rest of the board.
I do not have anything against ANY of you guys personally. I just think the way you are handling this is pretty childish, and I obviously got my stupid ass swept up in it. My own fault there...
ggiese, I am satisfied with a LOT of the points made in the other posts and have said so on a few occasions....I just don't see the need to keep going over it for days and weeks at a time.
am I trying to save the board from the "great invasion"?
No....I just miss the days when me and my buddies used to meet up here and talk about smokes.
I don't feel I have "fired baseless accusations" and if you feel I have been disrespectful for voicing my opinion so be it, there isn't much I can do but disagree. I feel that SOME of your posts have been disruptive and I have voiced my OPINION that I wish them to stop. For that I have been called names and been accosted with some pretty rude posts, and I took the bait. As I said before, my own stupid fault there...I let myself get drawn into this mediocre drama...
To my fellow members that have been here awhile, I apologize for my part in this.
To the new members , I'm sorry if you were offended, and I hope you get some sort of resolution to this someday....there are obviously a lot of bent up egos and hurt feelings in this situation, and I have no place in it. It is now very apparent that nobody can have any bearing on this situation, and I apologize for trying.
As I said before, I have nothing agianst any of you personally, and I am officially out of this fracas. Good luck.
C'mon labmoney, I've only been here for a whole six DAYS and Dave Razz maybe seven or eight. I don't know what it is with people like you who blow things way out of proportion and stretch the truth to the point where it's absurd. When you grossly exaggerate like that, it removes almost any credibility your post might have had.Quote:
keep going over it for days and weeks at a time.
Now THAT is funny :smiley36: If you call tossing out baseless accusations and making inflamatory posts trying to "reason" with people then you don't have much of a grip on reality. Your idea of "reasoning" with people is to start with heavy handed flaming and insinuating things that are just plain not true.Quote:
I have tried several times to reason with several of you on different levels to no avail. It does no good.
Face it labmoney, your attitude has been $hitty right from the get go, trying to lecture and talk down to me the moment I got here. Here's an example, you said:
Then immediatly Oblik chimes in with this disrespectful, heavy handed bul$hit and lies that is his trademark:Quote:
Hey Coventrycat, you seem to have a lot to offer here, and I feel like it will be great to have you as a member of this group, but not if your main objective is to hang around and use the boards to get back at members who have wronged you in some way.
Just my opinion, but I think your point has been made, get off Carlos' back, and let's stay civil here. so far the one thread you have been heavily involved in has been closed....not a good record so far.
If you have a beef with someone take it to PM or email. We should RESPECT everyone here.
As I said, just my opinion, and I don't mean any disrespect, I just enjoy keeping things cool here.
Yet there were NO posts from you suggesting that Oblik should learn to control his temper, not post lies and show respect, why is that? You've demonstarted that you have very little integrity and you should just quit while you're behind.Quote:
Why hello, moheganson!! Long time no see. How is the master speller doing?? I see you have now joined forces with dave to screw with me eh... Welll you pretty little list is nice but there is no just cause for it. The people here know how I am and will not listen to your childish atacks on me. You visit, as short as it my be, will be enjoyed Mo.
Sorry time flies...seems like its been weeks... :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
I am. :smiley17:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
I disagree with you on my lack of integrity however. I think that is a baseless accusation. I unfortuanately didn't see that post from Oblik that you referenced.
P.S. You misspelled demonstrated.... :smiley4:
oh and also, my screen name is labmonkey, not labmoney....hence the picture of a monkey on my avatar....not that it really matters, and I am not trying to be an ass...just wanted to point that out since coventrycat, ggeise, and moheganson have all been calling me labmoney.
c-ya
C'mon... I make spelling mistakes too (sorry, CoventryCat - please don't slap me again - that hurts). I keep missing the "k" - it's quite unintentional... :smiley17:Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
And my name is ggIEse - not ggEIse - that hurts my feelings... :smiley19:
The base of my accusation was in my last post. My point was you jump on me for taking a swipe at Oblik yet you say nothing when he does the same. This means you have no integrity plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
"demonstarted" - just trying to invent a new word, I guess it didn't work, huh?
Sorry, I didn't recognize your avatar as a monKey :smiley5: I'm not too observant and didn't misspell your screen name intentionally, I just followed ggiese's lead, IT'S HIS FAULT :smiley17:Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
How the HELL did I become a "Senior Member" all of a sudden? This place is giving me a complex, I ain't old enough to be a member of the AARP. :smiley26:
It's actually done by the number of posts. Take a look at this thread: http://www.cigarsmokers.com/t120-membership-groups.html
At some point I would like to change the way it works, maybe make the group names a little more cigar centric?
Can't believe I read this entire thread. :smiley6:
That's an hour of your life you'll never get back 'eh sarge? :smiley29:Quote:
Originally Posted by cigarsarge
ROTFL
Thanks labmonkey, I needed a good laugh before leaving work.
:smiley36:
If it took you an hour to read this whole thread :smiley29: , then..............well, never mind.....(I'll refrain from commenting on your reading comprehension abilities).Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
I'll refrain from commenting on your inability to recognize sarcasm when you see it... :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Hey you're the one that said it took you an hour to read the thread. Most people could handle that in a few minutes or maybe even less.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
I never said it took me an hour to read it....it's called "sarcasm"...which you apperently missed again. :smiley4:
Welcome back my friends,
To the thread that never ends.
So glad you could attend,
Come inside!! Come inside!!
:smiley2: :smiley2: :smiley2:
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Originally Posted by cigarsarge
:smiley32: now that's a good one.....but really it's only a short read...ask Coventry...
No labmoney, I didn't miss it again, you're the one who implied one needs an hour to read this thread which is far longer than needed by just about everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
Sorry the fuc ing " " ey on my eyboard is not wor ing, I didn't call you labmoney on purpose.
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]No labmoney, I didn't miss it again, you're the one who implied one needs an hour to read this thread which is far longer than needed by just about everyone else.
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:smiley24: dude....never mind....never mind.....
I bet it's hard to walk with that chip on your shoulder.