Didn't think we would notice the edit?
We are pointing out the error's of your comments. You don't have the facts correct and yet you think you're the lone crusader here.
When you get the facts right, then come back and make your comments.
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Hey ScoopKW Buddy. Here is the entire PM I sent Barry. I intentionally left out the introduction in my first post in this thread, because frankly it's really no ones business. I think its relevant now:
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hey man
Just so you know where I stand, I actually agree with many of your points of view. I’m not a big fan of the current administration at all. I hope things change in a couple of weeks.
That being said, you got to realize that this is a cigar community. I started this forum for like minded people to chat about cigars, not to debate politics. The politics forum is really meant to discuss the inevitable controversy that comes up with in the community, not what’s going on in the real world.
I don’t want tell you not to express your opinion, but several members are starting to get riled up about your posts, and I don’t want to loose you as a member.
--Miguel
Oh, crap... Now the hanging mob has to go after the site owner... :smiley3:
Sorry, Hex - nothing personal... :smiley2:
Damn skoop, looks like your "conservative bias" shit got blown right out of the water since the site owner sure don't sound conservative to me.:smiley3:
THIS IS A CIGAR BOARD,
NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE BOARD
If you want to go and mix it up on a political debate board go find one. While you're posting here, keep your stupid political shit to yourself, no one really wants to hear it here, GET IT?
OK I think we have all had enough of the political BS. As far as I’m concerned, this is issue is now closed. We have no political bias here. We have respected members who look after each other. These members are respected because of what they have done for the community, not because they vote for people who like to take our rights away - (Blatant reference to Patriot Act to further establish where I stand).
Sometimes there will be disagreements, its part of any community. If you want to be able to voice an opinion and not have people jump all over you, then make a name for yourself here. Trade cigars, offer advice, take part in passes, heck organize a pass. Contribute, get to know people, and you will be respected. Don’t come in here shooting off debatable opinions that have nothing to do with cigars and expect people not to jump all over you.
Welcome to Cigarsmokers.com!
So, I am to be censored. (NO MORE POLITICS ON THE POLITICS BOARD.) While you get to enlighten us with gems such as:
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
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So, the above posts are hunky-dory? And if I act in a manner similar to CC, I will gain the respect of this board?
Would y'all be so kind as to provide me with a list of people that I should be calling "fucking stupid pieces of shit," and another list of people I should dial it back and only call "fuggen idiots."
Then there's the hypocrisy of frog-marching one unpopular member out of here and the opposing side (who is JUST AS BAD in the vitriole department) gets to say "Nope, no more politics on the politics board."
Yeah, I've only been here a month. And in that month I've learned that you can call democrats "shitstains," applaud their deaths, link them to the communist party, and drop the F-bomb on anyone who leans left. Just know for sure you're insulting a liberal when you insult people here.
When I suggest that DVM and CC are basically the opposite sides of the same problem, I get a wonderful invitation (from the administrator no less) to take nourishment from a "Nice Cup of Shut the Fuck Up."
If you don't want politics on the politics board, how about changing "Politics" to something like, say, "Travel."
PS -- Go Huskies.
EDIT -- Typo fixed.
Hey dude why don't you just quit being a big pussy and try and shake that bloody tampon loose from your vagina.
You've been here a month - good for you! Would you like a cookie?
Boy - reading comprehension isn't a specialty with you, is it? And I thought all this time it was you were clueless... My bad... :smiley9:
I think if you go back and review the tapes you'll see it was your pal Barry who said the REPUGS (that's Barry's deragatory term for Republicans, along with "Repukes") were "shitstains". Sorry - I know in your world you would like it the other way, but it's not to be. Can't change history like you fixed your typos.
And while we're on that subject - that was exactly the kind of banter which led Barry to the door. No - you can't just waltz into the place, start flinging poo all over, stinking it up and expect everyone to pat you on the back and tell you what a great person you are.
Again - appealing to your comprehension skills - this is NOT a politicat debate board. It's a CIGAR board. From time to time there will be discussions about politics. It's inevitable. There's going to be discussions about sports. There's going to be discussions about cars. There's going to be discussions about women (and men, if CigarGirl and Cinda are so inclined). But in any of those areas if someone were to start flinging poo like Barry, there's going to be a clamp down. If you don't like that philosphy - MOVE ON!!!
C'mon, skoop - you really don't need to participate on this board. After all, it's not like you're going to starve or anything if you don't. :smiley2:
Yeup, you have been here just a little over a month and don't what was going on before you got here. As I mentioned earlier, you don't have a CLUE what is going on. You only believe you do, but you don't. When you find out the truth, when you finally figure it out. Then come back and start posting.
If you had stated your opinion in those words and not made it sound like this board was nothing but a bunch of biased conservatives, maybe I would have been a little more polite about it.
This section of the site was not created to fuel political debate on a national level. I intended it to be a place for members to discuss political situations that are relevant to the community.
http://www.cigarsmokers.com/t924-definition-of-politics.html
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7. The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.
You're right. You've only been here a month. Maybe you should take sometime and read some old posts to understand how the community operates instead of jumping into arguments you really have no reason to be in.
I have been here more than a month, almost two in fact.....couldn't give a shit less how established members solve their disagreements, seems to me its between them.......sdvm more than likely got what he deserved, but who am I to agree/disagree........the only thing I know is that I LOVE COOKIES:smiley1: especially macaroons!!!! I wonder if coconut has a political connotation.:smiley13:.
No, whoever said you were going to be censored?
Since you took them out of context and failed to inform therest of the readers what they were in RESPONSE to, those posts are "hunky-dory" to a large majority of the members here. Stop being a smart-mouthed punk.
No you will not. I have gained the respect of many members of this board for many other reasons which you will obviously never understand. I'm not going to waste my time educating a smart-mouthed punk like you who has a huge liberal chip on his shoulder.
Here's your list:
SmokinDUMB
bigpoppapuff
amanda
fpdoc77
TBSCigars
SFG75
Tony Dogs
corona gigante
David G. Hall
Iced T
traffic nazi
You should add yourself to that list too.:smiley2:
Just STFU...BTW vitriol doesn't have an "e" at the end of it. If you want to act like you're all high and mighty and SO much smarter than everyone else around here, you'd be doing your cause a favor if you learned how to spell....
Stop lying you piece of shit. I used the quote "shitstain" to mock SmokinDUMB's constant use of it and you know it, I never "applaud(ed)" anyone's death, I did not link them to the Communist party, and I don't "drop the F-bomb on anyone who leans left" only fucking shitballs like you who have no clue and just happen to lean left.
Yeah, how about that!! That means you'd be wise to heed the administrator's suggestion. But you being the arrogant blowhard that you are can't seem to get that through your thick head.:smiley29:
Don't be stupid......READ THE DEFINITION OF THE "POLITCS" FORUM on THIS CIGAR BOARD which we've pointed you to on numerous occasions and stop whining like a bitch giving birth to a bowling ball.
Damn you are one arrogant, ignorant insufferable little prick, aren't you? You remind me of Scotty and trust me, that is NOT a good thing......
There really is no reason to continue this whole discussion any further. I'm going to start locking threads and suspending people if it continues.
Guys,
Although not a member long here. I "was" enjoying the site tremendously. All members, I have dealt with have good qualities. There really is no need for this to continue. :smiley18:
Wow,go away for a couple days and you miss all the good shit:smiley3: By the way,who the fuck is Miguel?:smiley36:
Anyone checked out CigarRebellion lately?
UpStateMike the site admin, instituted some new rules because of larrynj's vulgar posts and constant troublemaking BS. These are Mike's new rules:
The same day barry was banned here, all of a sudden, he returns to CigarRebellion after a six month absence. Hmmmmmm, was barry going over to CigarRebellion to contribute in a positive manner or going there only to continue his fight with me there and to "stalk" me as he and Sid would say?:smiley29: It's as clear as day that the answer is the latter.Quote:
Here are the rules.
If you start a thread targeted at another board member, it's going to be deleted.
If you continue to start threads targeted at another board member, you're going to be deleted.
If you post something I deem as an attack on another member, it's going to be deleted.
If you continue to post things I deem as attacks on another member, you're going to be deleted.
If you post spam, I'm going to delete it, and ban your username, email addy and IP address.
I reserve the right to delete anything at anytime.
If you disagree with any of this, don't bother emailing me or pming me. I turned those features off.
So barry being the piece of shit that he is figures if he puts an attack on me in his SIG TAG, he's not violating any of Mike's new rules. Yep, that ole barry, he sure is one clever one, isn't he?:smiley24: Here's his new sigtag:
So, I asked Mike if barry's sigtag violated any rules. Mike responded by editing my thread with this comment:Quote:
You have a lying, reneging piece of shit that hangs out here. I think he's coughing up a hairball right now.
and he edited barry's post with a request for barry that barry he change his sigtag:Quote:
Yes, it's annoying me. Please take the fight somewhere else.
Can anyone guess what barry did next? Well just as he did with hex, barry completely ignored Mike and stepped it up a notch by changing his avatar to this:Quote:
SDVM, please change your sig tag. Thanks, Mike
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...r_misc_086.jpg
And some of you are still wondering why I voted to permanently ban this piece of shit loser from this site.
Well, we've pretty much always had an attitude here that what happens on other sites is relevant here. Since I'm the only one here who post regularly on CigarRebellion, I thought what barry did on that site was indeed relevant here because if I didn't point it out, almost all the other members here would have never known. The next thing they would say is "Why do you find barry so objectionable?" because it's not like there aren't people here who think this whole shit storm is ALL because of me and barry is just some poor little innocent victim here.
I'll tell ya, if someone from this site who was suspended from here for a week or two started trouble on BOLT or BananaLand carrying his fight to another site, I'd sure want to know about it. Since I'm banned from those two shitholes, I can't read those boards but again, I'd sure want to know and would encourage someone who had knowledge of it to report it here.
It was the same exact situation with Oblik, Scroto, PuroMooch and MANY others that have come here. In those cases, their actions on other boards was EXTREMELY relevant in CigarSmokers. Hell even BananaLand has now come around on that position. Remember neuroticdancer who spewed pretty much nothing but vile and vulgarity here then goes over to BananaLand all nicey-nice like he's some kind of "good guy":smiley29: Well even the elder banana eaters whacked his little pee pee on that one.:smiley2:
I don't think we need to know how he's acting over there. We already have plenty of evidence of his actions on this site.
And as far as Oblik, Scroto, et al... DVM's is a much different situation than with them. It is my understanding that they were unknown quantities here but their objectionable actions were known on a different site.
In DVM's case, he is a known quantity here. The closest analogy I can make in this case is warning us about a tornado that hit two towns over while we are picking through the rubble of our houses that were destroyed 20 minutes ago.
Sorry, Hex, I'll shut up now.
Bill, my point is that we are trying to move on and recover from the right/left back/forth argumentation caused by the elections. I have asked people on all sides to back away and let things settle down. Continuing this discussion is not helping the situation at all.
I’m not sure how else to put it other then start taking more aggressive actions.
I do think I owe the board an apology. It's been very difficult the past few weeks work wise and I think I let things get a little too far out of control by not being as involved as I would like to be.
On the contrary, not only was Blodick a KNOWN quantity here, he was a freakin' moderator.:smiley3: who was deleting posts and locking threads HERE. Scroto was a known quantity here who was acting all nicey-nice to those who weren't really paying attention but a few of us knew who devious and twisted that little bastard was and we had to keep pointing it out because no one was listening at first. At the end they sure were....:smiley2:
Regarding Barry, your analogy is pretty far off. Here's one for you that works much better: You own a company and you find an employee is stealing from you. You give him a two week suspension and tell him that he can come back then. In the meantime, he goes to another company and starts stealing there too where one of your employees also works a second job. This guy who works for you and the other company finds out and he tells you and the rest of your employees. Should you tell him "I don't want to hear it because it didn't happen here!!" or "Thanks for letting us know!" I vote for answer #2.
Getting back to your analogy, since the "tornado" in our case is scheduled to come back in two weeks, do you want to know if it's still acting like a tornado or just a harmless puff of breeze? I don't know about you but I'd sure be interested in knowing if it's still a tornado.
If barry was acting like a good guy on CigarRebellion while he's serving his two week suspension, I'd be reporting that too (in the same manner that I updated our community about FPDoc77) but he's not.
Now hold on just a minute here, barry's continued stalking of me on another site and posting offensive sigtags and avatars is what's not helping the situation at all and damn it, it IS indeed relevant here. We'd all love to move on but it's clear as day that barry can't. Just because I'm letting the community know what this guy is up to and how it's directly affecting me doesn't make me the "bad guy" here......
Don't blame yourself hex, you did everything you were supposed to do, several members requested a banning poll on him, you started one and they voted to keep him here. And it wasn't the "elections" that caused this at all, we all know what it was so there's no need for me to repeat it here.
I don't think you owe the board an apology at all.
Bill - I do you have a point. However in this situation Hex has made his opinion perfectly clear and He as also publically stated what his next steps are.
Hex has been very fair and even-handed in his approach. I don't think cigarsmokers has anything to worry about with Barry. One more of his "posts" and he is gone.
At this point you have laid out the relevant history clearly and anyone on this forum who wants to educate themselves certainly can do it here.
For what it's worth, I'm in agreement with Hex and fully support his position on this.
And not to slight you or your opinion in any way, I think this should be left to die.
Bill - a thief is a thief. There is no change despite the fact they've been caught and punished. No matter how straight they act after returning, there's going to be trust issues for quite some time.
If/when Barry returns he will have to curb his nastiness. There's absolutely no doubt about that. Maybe he'll be able to - maybe not. No matter what - I don't see him being your best friend afterwards. And that's okay - he doesn't have to be.
But - Hex has made it very clear he will be intolerant of continued nastiness. No doubt in my mind, Miguel is very serious about that. So I believe we should wait and see what Barry does when/if he returns. In the mean time - let's get back to enjoying the peace and quiet we have for at least the time being...:smiley2:
I see no reason we can't have peace and quiet...Even if Barry comes back to spew his hate. If we simply don't respond to it he will either go away, be forever banned, or stop spewing it.
I understand that nobody likes a bad winner any more than a bad loser!