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Originally Posted by Diesel Grinch
Okay Bill, let's have this guy have it. :smiley15: We do not have bad blood between us. Heck, we're practically family!. :smiley20: I'll have you know that Bill is on my christmas card list now!. :smiley4:
Ok...I was wrong :smiley4: trolling is what Coventry does HERE, not at LTC.....sorry 'bout that... :smiley17:
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Gotta leave it to the admin, he stirred it now it's gotta get good........
JIm
Somebody stop this guy!!!. :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
That's being a troll, but damn if it didn't make me laugh out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
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DICK !!Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
(I hate it when he's right for once) :smiley36:
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Originally Posted by razrbakcrzy
Anybody else having the time of their life here? :smiley36:
Uh Scotty.....the village called and they said if you don't come back, they're finding a new idiot.
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Originally Posted by razrbakcrzy
lol....jim the cable guy :smiley20:
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
That reminds me.
Go here:
http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html
Then click on "A Pair of Pants."
You'll laugh your tail off.
I got websensed by the office smut filter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smiley35: :smiley7:
Jim
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Originally Posted by razrbakcrzy
LOL-Oh yeah, it is a bit crude. Better just check it at home. Sorry about that Jim!.
I'm gonna be a thread jacker now and say something that's really been on my heart. :smiley31:
I voted "don't really care." :smiley20: Why? Because I don't really care. :smiley3:
putting the poll here was a little sneaky on my part. I new it would get more looks here because on the forum index CIGARS is at the top of the page. Wasnt a mistake I did it on purpose. I should have put it in GD though
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Originally Posted by SFG75
That practically family explains a lot. And sending CC envelops of "white power" just pisses the post office off.
Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by razrbakcrzy
I got banned at the Island after only two posts - during the period of time you also were banned - remember, when Scotty came in with his zeal to clean things up (hence the Tombstone avatar) - where the site admin and mods decided who shall go and who shall stay, had discussions amongst themselves, discussing who was aligned with who - "weed out the bad people" - you know, when the Iron Curtain was dropped. Suspicions ran high - people were "spying" on them, they were reading other boards posts and sharing amongst themselves who was talking about them on other boards, and what was being said... Even so much as PB saying there needed to be a stronger gate guard because obviously others were making it in to the Island and reading their posts. What kind of lunacy is that!!!
Hence, appropriately so, the site was called the "Island of Misfit Toys" in the cigar board community. Some of the individuals were escaping pasts at other boards that caused them to be banned or persona non grata. And they found loving friends in commiserating about their problems at other boards. A support group, so to speak.
There are those individuals that will infect other boards, like this one, with their presence. Set themselves up as an upstanding member amongst the group. A "leopard", so to speak. But, a leopard does not change its spots.
SFG has got some serious issues - ones I honestly don't believe HE thinks he does. I sat on the fence, watched his posts at CP - saw his ramblings in the chat rooms - certainly, anger got the best of him. He'd issue apologies for his behavior (and he certainly needed to apologize for his behavior), and then repeated the cycle. Instead of stopping to take stock of what he was doing, Scotty just kept on going... Spiraling to the point where he got into it with one of the most generous, kindest, most laid back individuals I've met on the cigar boards - Rod, the Admin of CP. Scotty's arrogance got the best of him, and Scotty definitely crossed the line with Rod when he got defensive about the "CPFU Pass" on the Island... (I'll give you three guesses what CPFU stood for, and the first two don't count) - while Scotty was still and ACTIVE member of the CP board.
During this time, Scotty went over to the Island and infected that place with his egotistical ideals of creating a cigar utopia. By walking in like his avatar suggested (you know, Tombstone) - and screwed with people who didn't deserved to be screwed - because he had the power, and NO ONE had the right to disagree with his ideal. If you were associated with the "bad people" - you were banned. Even if you had casual conversation with the "bad people". Some of the best, most knowledgeable, respected and generous BOTL's I can think of were on the chopping block - just because they DARED to talk with the "bad people".
And the "bad people" Scotty went after were the likes of CC. While CC may be vocal in his opinions, he is a very good person. He is someone that you want on your side. Someone who is not afraid to tell you like it is. He has made mistakes in his past, and he will freely admit to it when he does. And he will apologize - AND SHOW GENUINE REMORSE (Remorse: Moral anguish arising from repentance for past misdeeds; bitter regret) - a concept Scotty obviously doesn't understand...
Okay, so CC has some unresolved issues with Scotty. I'm getting the distinct impressions that the people on this board don't understand the dynamic relationship between CC and SFG. Some of it is a personal agenda on CC's part to resolve what has not been resolved. Most of it arises from CC's disdain for what Scotty has done to other BOTL's at other boards. And Scotty just continues on like nothing ever happened...
So the question really is - Scotty - how long are you going to let this go on? Are you going to show remorse for past misdeeds? Or are you going to subject this and every other board you associate yourself with the same arrogance and insensitivity you displayed at CP and the Island...
The sad part of that whole episode (and a lesson to all who are on this board) - don't repeat the LTC fiasco over here. Let the "hotheads" (as you call it) vent their feelings and move on - maybe it will be resolved, maybe not. Okay, it's uncomfortable for a time, but it will pass. In the grand scheme of things this will all be a pimple on the ass of life!!! IMHO - If you are so highly offended by cigar board chatter (especially after only being a member for a few weeks with a couple dozen posts to your credit), what the hell is your personal life like!!!
But I'm not even going to bother.
It amazes me how people can be. Every time I join a board, it seems a short time down the road a selection of jack-asses (I'm not pointing fingers at anyone since I don't know the history behind this crap) develops a nice, hostile relationship and it sours the board.
Now, if I talk to person "B", person "A" will not like me and vice-versa. Heaven forbid I speak to person "C" or the whole board will want me strung alive!
I have a solution, I'll just put everybody on ignore.
I wish you guys would take this elsewhere. It's not fair to everybody else.
Also, do the moderators actually "moderate" here? Why doesn't somebody delete this whole damned thread?
Post as many times as you like ggiese, the poll says that you and cc's methods of dealing with me doesn't concur with the views of the majority of this board.
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Originally Posted by MMAB
Well, since you asked... Moderators are doing there job... Let the conversation go. It's not really crossed the line of civility, yet.
You've felt compelled to respond three times, and posted on the fourth - which leads me to believe you have at least SOME passing interest in the conversation. That being said, you could choose to ignore this thread - but apparently you did not... The thread title was pretty alluring, so I could see the need to read (kinda like trying to pass on reading Globe at the supermarket checkout stand, or gawking at a bad accident scene - you just can't help yourself.) But - YOU choose to read the thread. Don't be upset with what you read, then. It's kinda like you driving by a bad accident scene, going out of your way to look at the dead, mangled bodies - then complain to others that you have nightmares now because you saw bad things.
This is not a bad board because a few are having a disagreement. I don't see this board going "sour", as you say. What is your definition of sour? Is it sour because there are a few disagreements going on? Big deal! It'll pass and life will go on. I don't see where person "A" is not going to talk to person "B", because they like person "C". While LabMonkey, Roham, etc have differing views from mine, I can conduct civil discussions with them without it becoming a flame fest. Maybe some day we'll have a herf and enjoy cigars together - and shout insults across the room at one another. If you talk to SFG, my feelings won't be hurt - I won't stop talking to you, I promise (well, maybe, then again, you probably would wish I would). And I'd spend time sharing a smoke with SFG, if he'd just realize his faux pas and deal with it.
I hate to belabor the point, but there will be disagreement from time to time. Things will work out in the end - I promise. You haven't been here that long, and only posted a coupla dozen time. Just stick around for a while and let it go. It'll be okay...
Very great scientific poll you got going, Scotty - Two dozen responses really is a good sampling... :smiley32: Twelve members (the "majority" of this board) say they're tired of hearing it... Okay.... "Here's your sign"... Please, Scotty - You teach what subject? I surely hope it's not Math or Statistics...Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
I'd actually respond that the MAJORITY of the members of this board have chosen NOT to respond. The have either chosen to NOT repond, or they have not visited since the poll was initially posted (a couple of days ago).
Maybe you can start rounding up your posse to come and vote on behalf of "your cause"... :smiley36:
No, those are the only folks who voted on your behalves, 98% of 'em :smiley36: Seeing the list is like reading a CP or CSnobs roster. :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
That's all good ggiese, get use to seeing me here. :smiley2:
Oh, Scotty - I fully expect to see you here... Wouldn't have it any other way!!! :smiley20: :smiley31:Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
Just because there are some names on the poll that are associated with CP and CS, doesn't mean that they are over here to back up CC. There are those that really find you truly distasteful, despite what CC and you may have going... :smiley2:
And - BTW - I see you voted in the absolute minority "Don't Really Care" - if that were true, why do you continue to taunt??? Ignore feature not working?
Give scrotum the rope, he'll hang himself eventually........ :smiley20:
Man this is some funny shit. With the exception of Coventry Cat I have forgotten more about being a surly and obnoxious ogre than most of you will ever learn. You too GeoRge LMFAO
K7
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Originally Posted by kevin7
Kevin ain't lyin' either!!! I'm just trying to follow in your footsteps, brother... Those are some BIG A$$ shoes to fill... :smiley36: :smiley16:
I'm just trying to figure out how it is you are so welcome at other boards, when you make no bones about ripping new a$$holes when you see fit... Everyone really expects no less from you. I realize it is widely recognized that you are the representative of all that is good, but I gotta figure out your persona... Kinda like watching Hulk Hogan - you just can't hate the guy despite the fact he busts your chops...
bye guys....I'm going out of town. by this time tomorrow I'll be lightin' a stogie sitting on a lounge chair on the beach....I will miss you all. :smiley31:
Thanks for a fun day of trolling (I learned SOMETHING out of all this today!). Let's get together and do it again real soon! :smiley4:
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Originally Posted by labmonkey
Even me??? :smiley31:
Nope, sorry George, he won't miss either of us.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
Especially the two of you! :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Thanks ggiese for your words of comfort.
Understand that I am not new to posting boards.
I have seen many boards on various subjects fall apart because a small group of people carry on their own little private feuds. Over a short period of time it seems that they involve a good portion of the board and everybody begins taking sides and soon you've got all these little splintered groups who hate each other. Then various members go to OTHER boards and begin the whole process over on that one. Its like a virus.
After reading the thread, which admittedly is "alluring" I can see that its the same old story here. It's dissapointing to see.
Now, if I do begin to correspond with someone, I will be wondering if I am being singled out by another for doing so.
In reality, bottom line, I could really care less. I don't know any of you nor do I need to. I have friends and a life outside of my keyboard and I'm not implying that anyone out there doesn't. I only came here in hopes of exchanging ideas and opinions on cigars without worrying about who is going to like me or not like me based on who I correspond with. That is the basic message I am getting from this thread. You've got sides developing.
I could care less about box passes or splits. I have never been involved in one nor will I. It seems that this is one of the areas that these bad feelings started from. IMHO any of you who have been burned on these have brought it on yourselves by dealing with essentially total strangers. If the person who burned you IS NOT a total stranger, I guess that makes them a total asshole. But as well, I am sure that many passes and splits go well. Personally, I am just not willing to take that risk.
In all sincerity, I don't mean to offend anyone, nor am I taking any side. How can I? I don't know any of you well enough to do so.
Again, its just disappointing to see stuff like this.
I understand that people disagree. It's human. But the name calling and finger pointing that's going back and forth is childish and it's obvious that it has been carried over from another board. That is not fair to the other members on this board. That's the bottom line. And yes, it does bother me to a very teenie, weenie, tiny degree. After all, I'm human too.
So there, I'm sure I've created at least a few enemies, even without taking a side!
So, to all of you out there, if you see a thread I've started or a reply I've made to one, please don't be too harsh on me!
Again, thanks ggiese, I'll still be around. :smiley20:
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Originally Posted by MMAB
Oh, you BASTID!!! I HATE YOU!!! I'm never, never, never going to talk to you again!!! NEVER!!! :smiley7: :smiley17: :smiley26: :smiley2:
You make some VERY good points - we just view things differently. As you point out, and I wholeheartedly agree, I have friends outside of the cigar boards. So I'm not going to die if my online associates don't talk to me anymore... (except for the few who I DO consider true friends...)
You're right - most of the people I know on the boards are strangers to me. Most of the people I kibitz with on line could walk up to me tomorrow and punch me in the nose and I woudn't know who they were (thank God LabMoney lives in Texas!!!) I don't easily take offense to anything anyone says to me... I've learned to take what is said with a grain of salt.
But, I also know people judge you no matter what you say. And online, even the slightest imperfection in the post can result in a flame war. Misinterpretation is a very common thing in any online discussion boards (I hate to admit this, but I've been on online BBS's since I connected using a 300 baud modem I had to manually switch once I got the connect tone - and I've seen some very SERIOUS meltdowns in that time). Nothing I've seen on this board comes even CLOSE to that. I gotta say - I don't see this board going down anytime soon... As a matter of fact, and I think Hex can back me up on this, membership has grown through these threads...
While you have seen the boards degrading by these flame wars, I view those situations as "thinning the herd" - getting rid of the less than desirable members who are socially inept. You want good people discussing their passion about cigars, let the social inept individuals that cause disdain on a board meltdown, stroke out and move on!!!
In my experience, the boards that go defunct do so heavy handed mod tactics, such as stifling of ideas, deleting posts, banning everyone, going private, etc. LTC is a great example of that. It appears it may be on somewhat of a rebound, but if the members are brutally honest and candid with you, that board was headed on a downward death spiral. C'mon - how long do you honestly think a newly formed board will last if they make in invitation only!!! That was due primarily to the fact the Admin didn't recognize (not being very experienced) that his tactics were causing its demise.
While there have been some "bad words" said here, this have been pretty much down the line civil. I can point you to some boards that threaten death (seriously) with any inflammatory post. Not the case here - yet. And I would expect that if and when that situation happened - there would be bannings!!!
I don't know about you - I'm retiring to my back patio to have a glass (or two) of single malt scotch, and an Opus X.... Cheers!!!
P.S, - please stick around - I sincerely do value your opnion....
Well if it really matters to anyone the poll is a 7 day poll and so far it looks like we are almost 50/50
Poll will close at 8:28 PM Central tonight lol
I take issue with that, option #2 is grossly inflated with Bill's CP & CS "Johnny-come-lately" friends. :smiley36: Not only that, but he voted twice!. He is after all, Moheganson. Why this is worse than what went on in Florida in 2000. :smiley30: :smiley21:Quote:
Originally Posted by the ox
Coventry using more than one screen name?!? :smiley22:Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
NO!!!!!! I don't believe it! Like SaintLuisRey at LTC....people accused HIM of being CC, but his name is "John"....John Doe I think it is.... :smiley36:
Mo has often been related to CC, but I don't believe that is fact... You got some evidence, Scotty???Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
And then I'm left to wonder - Scotty - what's your purpose with this post? Things have been very quiet lately - you got summer break now with nothing better to do than to pick fights?
Oh, and by the way... You might not want to let the others on this board see some of your behind the scenes manipulations to get this dispute fired up. Seems you have a "plan" for getting CC angry. That would be bad. :smiley21:
Oh, I know - you're just kidding.... :smiley36:
Don't ya love whining liberals who STILL can't get past the fact that Bush won the election in 2000? :smiley36: :smiley36: The first thing they do is cry and whine and complain when a vote doesn't go their way and start sprinkling their lies and deceit. Scotty, you've been hanging around the "Democratic Underground" site just a little too much lately. :smiley24:Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
This is par for the course for ole Scotty, point the finger and blame everyone else. Scotty, half of the members here do indeed want to know about they way you behave on other boards. No, you can't just come here and start in with your BS and expect to get away with it because as much as you may think you are "F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S" there are many others who know better and can see right through your pathetic act.
Once again, I love it when he makes idiotic posts like this that only prove my point that he's devious, underhanded and cannot be trusted.
Sorry, it's not going to work and all you do is make yourself look foolish when you make up stories about people using multiple screen names.