What do YOU want in a lighter?

First off, hello all! I'm new to this forum and this is my first post but i've been a creeper for a while.

Ok so here is the story. I am currently an intern for the government (DoD) and going to school (mechanical engineering) I have been looking to start my own business, specifically in cigar accesories. I am just doing some grassroots research and seeing what the cigar smokers would like in their lighter.

So:

How much are you willing to pay for a quality lighter?
What features would you like to see in a lighter?
What materials do you prefer?
What shape/size/texture are appealing?

and also please feel free to leave any other comments about what you would like to see in a lighter.

P.S. I can't wait to start posting in the whole forum :)

As far as lighters go I am not willing to pay a lot. I think that butane lighters are the way to go for quality but I am a fan of just striking two matches to light up. I know that in stores that I have been in the majority of lighters were either Zippo or butane torches.

pretty much everything the blue rhino triple torch has. good ergonomics, adjustable flame, and a cigar punch on the bottom. My only qualm is the triple flame may be just a bit overkill.

welcome to the forum!

i would pay up to $50 for a real good lighter.
butane, torch, reliable.
i prefer bigger lighters that you can grip with your whole hand and don't have to claw with 3 fingers.
a nice feature would be a fuel gage so i'll know when my lighter is about to need a refill instead of getting the pleasant surprise of a fluttering flame after i've settled down for a long smoke.

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Originally Posted by bpad68

First off, hello all! I'm new to this forum and this is my first post but i've been a creeper for a while.

Ok so here is the story. I am currently an intern for the government (DoD) and going to school (mechanical engineering) I have been looking to start my own business, specifically in cigar accesories. I am just doing some grassroots research and seeing what the cigar smokers would like in their lighter.

So:

How much are you willing to pay for a quality lighter?
What features would you like to see in a lighter?
What materials do you prefer?
What shape/size/texture are appealing?

and also please feel free to leave any other comments about what you would like to see in a lighter.

P.S. I can't wait to start posting in the whole forum :)

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Welcome.......I use a bic.

I want a torch that fires EVERY TIME I pull the trigger!

I have a nice Colibri, I think I got a decent one, but I've heard horror stories. I'll never purchase another.
I hear Blazer makes a great torch, and you can get one that's clear, (forget the model number), so you always know how much fuel you have.
For the price, you can't beat Nibbo / US Tiger, I have the Gear, (triple-torch), and a Space 7, (dual torch). Both of these can be had for under 10 bucks on eBay, and they have performed flawlessly for me! You can fill them with crap ronson fuel, they make short work of lighting the largest cigars, and they always fire.



Oh Yeah.. Welcome from South Carolina :smiley37:

I use a butane lighter most of the time but also like to use cedar strips when I have them available as this does keep the taste of the cigar as pure as you can get when being lit. The worse thing I can imagine is to foul the taste of something that you paid good money for only to use the wrong kind of lighter. There are alot of reasonably priced butane lighters on the market and depending on your wallet I'd just as soon keep it simple. Welcome to the boards.

I prefer the match, but on larger ring gauges, I go through a lot of matches......

I also have a Nibo dual torch. It has a little window where I can see the level of the butane. It works very well, when it's warm. I don't plan on ever buying anything more expensive. But then again, i don't smoke as often as most of the people in this forum.

I prefer the match also when I'm out and about but I use this as my table-top lighter.

I love my ST Dupont Extend. $250 canadian but kicks ass. By far the best lighter, and I swear by mine.

And welcome to the forum from Canada.

-Definitely butane either a torch or soft flame. (though Ive never used a butane soft flame, but I want to) Possibly the option to chose btw the 2.
-Good design thats different but classy but not too fancy. Feel comfortable while lighting.
-Color options. I would like to be able to chose the colors of my lighter and even have it customized to my liking if possible.
-Features - Lock switch to keep it lit so I dont have to hold it down.
-Nice sized tank.

As far price, depends. If the design is good and has decent features, $80 or so and maybe $100 custom colors.

Actually I think it would be great to be able to custom design your own lighter. Colors, size, tank capacity, ignition system, and the like.

Match, torch, camp fire doesn't really matter to me.

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Originally Posted by Cigary

I use a butane lighter most of the time but also like to use cedar strips when I have them available as this does keep the taste of the cigar as pure as you can get when being lit. The worse thing I can imagine is to foul the taste of something that you paid good money for only to use the wrong kind of lighter. There are alot of reasonably priced butane lighters on the market and depending on your wallet I'd just as soon keep it simple. Welcome to the boards.

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Cigary the above post is consider acceptable. Now your other post on CigarPass & CigarSnobs just won't do. You sir have dug yourself a deep hole. The problem is I don't think you can get yourself out of it. Now before you go off and say they started it lets look at the numbers. Half a dozen proven BOTL's verse you. Plus everything in a few threads & chat Logs that you and others have posted. I read the threads and the chat logs and see who you have gone after and the hole just gets deeper. I would recommend going to CL but you have already been Banned from there. My best advice would be simple to go away. But you won't take that. I would then advise you to apologize to those you have offended. Most places you can't since you have been banned at them and once again I don't think you would do it. You can try to go on like nothing happen but that will not sit. The dogs are hungry here as they haven't had an asshat for good long while. So let the games begin.

DG

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Originally Posted by Diesel Grinch

Match, torch, camp fire doesn't really matter to me.





Cigary the above post is consider acceptable. Now your other post on CigarPass & CigarSnobs just won't do. You sir have dug yourself a deep hole. The problem is I don't think you can get yourself out of it. Now before you go off and say they started it lets look at the numbers. Half a dozen proven BOTL's verse you. Plus everything in a few threads & chat Logs that you and others have posted. I read the threads and the chat logs and see who you have gone after and the hole just gets deeper. I would recommend going to CL but you have already been Banned from there. My best advice would be simple to go away. But you won't take that. I would then advise you to apologize to those you have offended. Most places you can't since you have been banned at them and once again I don't think you would do it. You can try to go on like nothing happen but that will not sit. The dogs are hungry here as they haven't had an asshat for good long while. So let the games begin.

DG

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Gonna have to disagree just a tad with ya on this DG,,,,,, NO post from this POS is acceptable until he apologizes for the shit he spewed in PM's and posts to more than one very respected BOTL. Doesn't make a good damn what board he posted it on.

He ain't got the sack to post in public regarding his transgressions,,,,,he'll just continue to ignore it and think he can post with immunity here,,,,,:smiley29:. Like you said, let the games begin. :smiley7:

Oh yeah, and for all the new members,,,,,there is plenty of reading to do about this. I would suggest you do the reading before you come to the conclusion that we are just being mean to this poor guy. :smiley2:

DG i sleep better at night just knowing you are here i dont know how you do but you seem to catch every POS within the frist 5 posts thanks man

dustin :smiley32:

a 5 pack of mini bics for about $2.

Welcome from Central Ohio.



Often i light up with cedar from cigar boxes, the last longer than a match. i have a zippo also if i am not smoking at home, haven't noticed a taste on the cigars yet, but i am still a newb. if i were to buy a lighter i'd want one that lights every time, fuel gauge (great idea whoever posted that), actually windproof (not just claims to be), and durable as crap. I'd probably pay $25 or maybe 30.

Thank you very much for all of the great responses!

Right now I am currently sketching up some designs taking serious considerations from all that have responded to the thread. Again thank you. I will be posting the designs up in the next few days, so be looking for them!

P.S. Ironically, I prefer matches and cedar to lighters as well:smiley36: Then again, I do own a Calibri and it is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen.:smiley21:

$3 Ronson butane lighter from Walmart. Every bit as good as my Xikar. If I lose it no big deal. I don't think an expensive lighter makes a cigar taste any better.

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Originally Posted by ashauler

Gonna have to disagree just a tad with ya on this DG,,,,,, NO post from this POS is acceptable until he apologizes for the shit he spewed in PM's and posts to more than one very respected BOTL. Doesn't make a good damn what board he posted it on.

He ain't got the sack to post in public regarding his transgressions,,,,,he'll just continue to ignore it and think he can post with immunity here,,,,,:smiley29:. Like you said, let the games begin. :smiley7:

Oh yeah, and for all the new members,,,,,there is plenty of reading to do about this. I would suggest you do the reading before you come to the conclusion that we are just being mean to this poor guy. :smiley2:

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We haven't had a chew toy in a while, looks like I have some reading to do.

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Originally Posted by bpad68

How much are you willing to pay for a quality lighter?
What features would you like to see in a lighter?
What materials do you prefer?
What shape/size/texture are appealing?

and also please feel free to leave any other comments about what you would like to see in a lighter.

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1) Top about 30 USD.
2) Quality butane flame (torch or soft). Well prepared for maintenance and recharges.
3) Metal.
4) Pocket size. Ergonomic shape.

Comments: I tend to use matches or cedar sticks. The main problem I find in 'low cost' cigar lighters is, for unknown reasons, they stop to work at the third ou fourth recharge of butane.

Regards.

No offense, but it'd be a COLD day in hell when I pay $250 for a lighter. I've been focked so many times with butanes that I have no expectations. I've gotten them from my kids, wife, amd brother. All have disappointed. Like Jamie, my pillar is the Bic. However, I have a Xikar dual flame that has outlasted them all (but the Bic). I'd swear that sucker produces thrust when it burns.

I'm with ya Bruce - the torches are unreliable, expensive, require maintenance, etc. Give me a disposable.

I agree with all the complaints about torches, but I always smoke in the backyard where breezes make Djeep disposables (the best by far) and matches impractical. My B&M guy recommended a Lotus L21 double torch, and it works like a charm every time. Dependable and no maintenance required. Unlike those temperamental Colibris, you don't have to take an online course to learn how to use them effectively.

The number one thing that I'm looking for in a lighter is reliability. I've had many a butane torch lighters that have crapped out on me. My lighters have primarily been Colibri and Xikar.

I do like the ergonomics/design of Xikar lighters..........on the Xikar Executive, the ignition is on the side which keeps your thumb from feeling the heat when lighting.

As far as price, I don't think I would pay more than $40 for a good lighter. Also, I prefer a torch lighter over a regular lighter.

Hope this helps. When you do create your lighter, feel free to send me one as a test product! :smiley36: Good luck.

i have a zippo, well 2 but i also have 2 jet flame lighters, i find the jet flame is good for lighting but i like to use my zippo for the look,

i would spend £20 on a zippo and about £10 on a jet lighter.

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Originally Posted by rakkisusanowa

i have a zippo, well 2 but i also have 2 jet flame lighters, i find the jet flame is good for lighting but i like to use my zippo for the look,

i would spend £20 on a zippo and about £10 on a jet lighter.

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Are you saying a Zippo that uses Ronsonal lighter fluid?

I have the ultra rare Colibri Quantum Jet that has been perfect since May '05! Every time it lites up perfectly and I've had not problems with this bad boy.

However, I had a firebird given to me and it died in 3 weeks. I just stick with old reliable.

Lopaka

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Originally Posted by DeeDubya

Are you saying a Zippo that uses Ronsonal lighter fluid?

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yeh :S why ?

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Originally Posted by Roham

I love my ST Dupont Extend. $250 canadian but kicks ass. By far the best lighter, and I swear by mine.

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I agree with ya 100%. Dupont Extend is the best lighter I've ever had. I worked great until I dropped it. Now you gotta jiggle it a little bit. I think $200 USD is outrageous as well. I just wish I could have warned my girlfriend before she spend that locally when she could have gotten it for $100-$125 online.

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Originally Posted by Lopaka

However, I had a firebird given to me and it died in 3 weeks. I just stick with old reliable

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The only colibri I've ever had last was a cheap firebird. I also have a friend who swears by his.

These are my suggestions:

1. Price- around 20-30 bucks
2. Easy of use- torch lighter that you don't have to flip a lid and has a fuel window
3 Looks- Don't mind colors but I don't want an alein spaceship
4. Longevity- Last for more than a year and ignites on the first try.

Thanks Rich