Davidoff Chateau Margaux 1970s

Dear Friends,

I am excited to say that I recently found some quality banded 1970s cabinets of Davidoff Chateau Margaux lurking at the back of my Directors reserve humidor

These cigars usually sell for £1450 per cabinet but I have persuaded him to part with them for the reduced price of only £1050 to our customers outside of the European Union. This price is inclusive of shipping

These cigars are not available to view/buy on our website. If you would like to order a box you can do so by using the following special link. Just leave the comment "Davidoff Margaux" and we will run the appropriate charge to your credit card

http://www.whisky-cigars.co.uk/mitch...ls-p-2394.html

Kind regards

Fraser
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd

Glasgow - Edinburgh - London - Hamburg

Gold Award Winner - Whisky Magazine's Independent Bottler Challenge 2009
Bronze Award Winner - Whisky Magazine's Independent Bottler Challenge 2009

194a Rose Street, Edinburgh
Tel +44 (0)131 226 1874
Fax +44 (0)131 220 4111

10-14a West Nile Street
Glasgow, G1 2PP
Tel +44 (0)141 248 7283

The Treasurer 1874
254 Canongate, Edinburgh, EH8 8AA
Tel +44(0) 131 556 2791

Also at 4, Broadwell Parade, London, NW6 3BQ
Tel +44 (0) 207 624 3351

www.whisky-cigars.com

"A merchant set apart by time and tradition"

Member of the AICS (Association of Independent Cigar Specialists)

That sounds like a great scam. Good luck!

I don't think its a scam but i would not make a purchase at that site the way its set up. :smiley5:

Hi there

Thanks for the reply

We haven't survived for 135 years by scamming our loyal customers

We are Scotland's oldest and most reputable cigar merchant established in 1874.

But if you dont want to buy these great cigars that's OK. There are just a handful of cabinets left so only a lucky few customers will get them

I just wanted to make the BB community aware they were available at all

Best
Fraser Gilchrist
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd ....an Orchant Family Company

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Originally Posted by Mangyrat

I don't think its a scam but i would not make a purchase at that site the way its set up. :smiley5:

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If it makes the members of the board more comfortable I have uploaded this to our website here:

http://www.whisky-cigars.co.uk/chate...et-p-4819.html

I haven't had any complaints when I've used this method before

Best
Fraser Gilchrist
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd ....an Orchant Family Company

Much better :smiley20:
It was just a little strange/confusing placing a order the way it was before

I'm glad you approve ;-)

These guys are the real deal. They have been around for awhile.:smiley20:

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Originally Posted by cigarsarge

These guys are the real deal. They have been around for awhile.:smiley20:

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Thanks for the support ;-)

I know of only one place in Hong Kong that still has Cuban Davidoffs. In the UK even Davidoffs in London does not have any. They claim the supply has been exhausted. The Hong Kong Seller is legit but does not offer mail service. You have to buy em & smoke em in thier lounge. Don 't waste your money boys.

Really ? I beg to differ particularly having just left Edward Sahakian at Davidoff of London who has always sold Davidoff's in singles and occasionally boxes and cabinets as well

My Company has been specialising in vintage Havana cigars and particularly vintage Davidoff and Dunhill for the last 13 years or so and at any one time have around 100 or so boxes/cabinets in our inventory.

In fact we would be happy to receive enquiries for a variety of vitolas that we are due to release in the next few weeks including Chateau and Mille series from the 70's and 80's

Our supply is far from exhausted

Kind regards

Fraser
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd

Gold Award Winner - Whisky Magazine's Independent Bottler Challenge 2009
Bronze Award Winner - Whisky Magazine's Independent Bottler Challenge 2009

10-14a West Nile Street
Glasgow, G1 2PP
Tel +44 (0)141 248 7283

194a Rose Street, Edinburgh
Tel +44 (0)131 226 1874
Fax +44 (0)131 220 4111

The Treasurer 1874
254 Canongate, Edinburgh, EH8 8AA
Tel +44(0) 131 556 2791

Also at 4, Broadwell Parade, London, NW6 3BQ
Tel +44 (0) 207 624 3351

www.globalwhiskyshop.com

"A merchant set apart by time and tradition"

Member of the AICS (Association of Independent Cigar Specialists)

Not that you know me from a can of paint, but whiskey is pretty well known throughout the cigar world.

Also there are certianly Davidoffs to be had as collectors sell things off, trade them away etc. The opportunities are fewer than they were say 5 years ago, but one can have Davidoffs in hand at decent prices with a few well placed calls.

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Originally Posted by Addiction

Not that you know me from a can of paint, but whiskey is pretty well known throughout the cigar world.

Also there are certianly Davidoffs to be had as collectors sell things off, trade them away etc. The opportunities are fewer than they were say 5 years ago, but one can have Davidoffs in hand at decent prices with a few well placed calls.

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Welcome back to the board.....did you have any success with your cigar club?

Box split anyone?

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Originally Posted by slcraiders

Box split anyone?

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At ~$63 a pop, that's a little rich for my blood :smiley3:

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Originally Posted by ashauler

Welcome back to the board.....did you have any success with your cigar club?

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We had a lot of interest but the problem in DC is location. People in DC wanted a DC location, people in Md wanted it there and Virginians wanted Va. It was so much effort to manage the expectations that I just decided to turn my garage into a smoking room.

However I turned the business plan over to a local cigar shop and they built a a GREAT lounge so it worked out well for some members and a partner.

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Originally Posted by Addiction

Not that you know me from a can of paint, but whiskey is pretty well known throughout the cigar world.

Also there are certianly Davidoffs to be had as collectors sell things off, trade them away etc. The opportunities are fewer than they were say 5 years ago, but one can have Davidoffs in hand at decent prices with a few well placed calls.

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No doubt, But one would think with such precious cargo such a well known retailer would not have to resort to internet hawking to sell their wares.

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Originally Posted by FraGil

If it makes the members of the board more comfortable I have uploaded this to our website here:

http://www.whisky-cigars.co.uk/chate...et-p-4819.html

I haven't had any complaints when I've used this method before

Best
Fraser Gilchrist
Area Manager
Robert Graham Ltd ....an Orchant Family Company

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Maybe scam was the wrong word. Something just didn't seem right with a send the money and tell us what you want in the comments. But now that you have a legitimate link, I retract my previous statement and apologize.

I stand by my post that states these guys are legit. They have been in the internet sales business for a long while.

What Sarge said. I dont have the $ for a box but I would see no problem paying that $ for a few. IIRC casa fuente gets that kind of $ for some of their kool aid

I would have no problem walking into Whiskey's B&M and buying them. But with that said. I would have an issue buying over the internet. I just don't believe 40YR old Davidoff's need to be hawked over the web at discount prices. Something about that does not sitt well with me. IMHO

You guys gotta remember that many shops such as this one exist all over the world. When my Swedish friend wants something from the USA and I send it to him he always sends me Cuban petite coronas. I know he buys them at a local shop and I never worry about fakes and know they are ready to smoke.

I concur with you Paddy about buying cigars that cost that much over the internet. I'd want to buy them in person to inspect.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the comments, feedback and advice. Much appreciated

Our stocks of these have all sold now but I'll keep you posted of any further interesting releases

Best wishes
Fraser

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Originally Posted by FraGil

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the comments, feedback and advice. Much appreciated

Our staocks of these have all sold now but I'll keep you posted of any further interesting releases

Best wishes
Fraser

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Please do. I may not be able to afford them, but it's always interesting to read about collector cigars like these popping up.

Based on how quickly the Chateau Margaux sold out I have bent their arms and persuaded my directors to release another couple of interesting cabinets from their private stocks

Davidoff 4000 1970's cabinet of 24 £1750

Davidoff 5000 1970's cabinet of 25 £2000

One cabinet of each only is being made available

Perfect condition of course as well as perfect provenance. Prices are inclusive of airmail shipping

If you are interested just drop me a line at sales@whisky-cigars.com

Best
Fraser
Robert Graham Ltd

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Originally Posted by Paddy

I would have no problem walking into Whiskey's B&M and buying them. But with that said. I would have an issue buying over the internet. I just don't believe 40YR old Davidoff's need to be hawked over the web at discount prices. Something about that does not sitt well with me. IMHO

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Online retailers fall into two distinct categories:

1. "Hawkers" - those that push out anything that will sell, hoping to make the big bucks in the short term. i.e. - typically guilty of selling things such as glass top Cohiba's.

2. "Reputable" dealers that look for the reputation to generate repeat sales.


Hawkers tend to be very flash in the pan - oftentimes they are caught trying to sell something that is valueless for big bucks. Very short term business plan, as it doesn't take long in these comunities to identify and weed those chuckleheads out.

Those that try to establish a solid online reputation know the inherent risk to their reputation, and generally do a very good job of screening out the illegitimate product. It does not generally benefit them to risk their reputation over the sale of one bad cigar - so they tend to back what they sell, and only sell good quality cigars.



So, FWIW - I believe FraGil falls in the latter category... :smiley2:

Thanks for your post.

We're very fortunate at Robert Graham that we have 136 years of successful trade behind us and also that we have several shops you can call on the phone or visit should you be in the vicinity (theres a free dram waiting to be poured for anyone from cigarsmokers.com by the way)

Not every online retailer can say the same but thats not to say they are not reputable. Far from it. Some great retailers exist purely online and offer tremendous service

In my opinion the "hawkers" don't ever last long as boards like this are invaluable at spreading the word and keeping legitimate traders going which in turn keeps the manufacturers going

Your comments, business and friendship are always appreciated - as are criticisms, if anyone has a look at our website and sees something they don't like or approve of we always like to hear about it so we can fix it

Best
Fraser

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Originally Posted by ggiese

Online retailers fall into two distinct categories:

1. "Hawkers" - those that push out anything that will sell, hoping to make the big bucks in the short term. i.e. - typically guilty of selling things such as glass top Cohiba's.

2. "Reputable" dealers that look for the reputation to generate repeat sales.


Hawkers tend to be very flash in the pan - oftentimes they are caught trying to sell something that is valueless for big bucks. Very short term business plan, as it doesn't take long in these comunities to identify and weed those chuckleheads out.

Those that try to establish a solid online reputation know the inherent risk to their reputation, and generally do a very good job of screening out the illegitimate product. It does not generally benefit them to risk their reputation over the sale of one bad cigar - so they tend to back what they sell, and only sell good quality cigars.



So, FWIW - I believe FraGil falls in the latter category... :smiley2:

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Fair enough !
Perhaps "hawkers" was a bit harsh on my end.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that if the retailer I use in Europe was
to aquire a hand full of 40yr old boxes, he would have sent out a private email to select clients.
Not posted it on the forum were not only members can see it but also every other Tom, Dick, & Harry who pops in to our little cigar world, but I guess because I also have a relationship with my retailer I would not hesitate to purchase something and then hope they are not fakes. I have no history with Whiskey's and would not start one with a $1,800.00 box of Davidoff's.
Maybe a $200.00 box of RyJ's. Please no hard feelings FraGil

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Originally Posted by Paddy

Fair enough !
Perhaps "hawkers" was a bit harsh on my end.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that if the retailer I use in Europe was
to aquire a hand full of 40yr old boxes, he would have sent out a private email to select clients.
Not posted it on the forum were not only members can see it but also every other Tom, Dick, & Harry who pops in to our little cigar world, but I guess because I also have a relationship with my retailer I would not hesitate to purchase something and then hope they are not fakes. I have no history with Whiskey's and would not start one with a $1,800.00 box of Davidoff's.
Maybe a $200.00 box of RyJ's. Please no hard feelings FraGil

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I would not disagree that $1,800 a box for cigars does seem a bit harsh. However - check out the auctions and see what Davidoff's are going for! $1,800 sounds reasonable, I'd say.

I hear what you're saying about e-mails vs. public posts - but this offer is something you will not ordinarily see. I've been dying to try a Davidoff Margaux (I hear great things) - and I wish I had the $$$ to invest. The best I've been able to do is the 4000 and 5000s (both VERY nice, BTW). I appreciate Fraser offering this up to our community. Perhaps sometime (one can only hope!). :smiley2:

from my view, though - I'd be a bit more concerned about someone posting up a box of RyJ's at $200.

..now if he was selling OR Anejo's... :smiley7:

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Originally Posted by ggiese

from my view, though - I'd be a bit more concerned about someone posting up a box of RyJ's at $200.

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even Petit Julietas? :smiley2: