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12-02-2011, 10:08 PM
FuzzyBadTouch

No idea what is happening

Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my cigars and I figured if anyone would know what is happening that person would be here. So I recently went to Cuba and purchased some Cohiba's. I brought them back and attempted to smoke one, after cutting the cap I tried lighting it and after some effort achieved my goal. I then tried smoking it. This is where my issue arose, I tasted the cigar, the foot flared, but I did not get any smoke in my mouth. This continued and unless I was smoking or puffing on it, the cigar would eventually stop burning if let sit there. Now, I live in an extremely dry environment (Alberta, Canada) and I left the cigars for another week figuring that they were moist. A week later I still have the same problem. Does anyone know what is going on and how to fix it?
12-02-2011, 11:07 PM
cigarsarge

Here we go again...
12-02-2011, 11:14 PM
badwhale

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Originally Posted by FuzzyBadTouch

Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my cigars and I figured if anyone would know what is happening that person would be here. So I recently went to Cuba and purchased some Cohiba's. I brought them back and attempted to smoke one, after cutting the cap I tried lighting it and after some effort achieved my goal. I then tried smoking it. This is where my issue arose, I tasted the cigar, the foot flared, but I did not get any smoke in my mouth. This continued and unless I was smoking or puffing on it, the cigar would eventually stop burning if let sit there. Now, I live in an extremely dry environment (Alberta, Canada) and I left the cigars for another week figuring that they were moist. A week later I still have the same problem. Does anyone know what is going on and how to fix it?

Did you buy them from a reputable dealer, or some dude at the hotel you stayed at?
12-02-2011, 11:19 PM
craig

banana peels.
12-02-2011, 11:27 PM
ggiese

PM sent
12-02-2011, 11:32 PM
cigarsarge

I bid 7 cents and half a cheesburger...
12-02-2011, 11:34 PM
bigbill1300

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Originally Posted by badwhale

Dammit!

PM Sent ©

no no you go back to sleep!!!! P.M. sent
12-03-2011, 07:00 PM
CoventryCat86

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Originally Posted by badwhale

Did you buy them from a reputable dealer, or some dude at the hotel you stayed at?

Yes, before anyone can answer you question, you need to answer this one first. Where did you buy your Cohibas? And don't say "In Cuba" we need to know if you bought them from an official LCDH shop or what.
12-03-2011, 09:13 PM
FuzzyBadTouch

I bought them from a guy in a hotel, so no not a reputable dealer. The guys I bought them from provided the certificate and everything. Which I can post here if need be.
12-03-2011, 09:16 PM
Mangyrat

Find a draw poker and unplug that fake cuban.
Yep you got fake Cubans in Cuba.:smiley6:

I personally don't care if they are fake as long as they are a half decent cigar ill smoke them.
12-03-2011, 09:43 PM
badwhale

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyBadTouch

I bought them from a guy in a hotel, so no not a reputable dealer. The guys I bought them from provided the certificate and everything. Which I can post here if need be.

There you have it folks. Not a reputable dealer. Case closed.
12-03-2011, 09:47 PM
TommyTree

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Originally Posted by Mangyrat

I personally don't care if they are fake as long as they are a half decent cigar ill smoke them.

That's the ticket. As long as you didn't pay so much for them that it'll break your heart every time you light one up.
12-03-2011, 09:51 PM
ggiese

Another PM sent - because there was no response to the first one.
12-04-2011, 12:04 AM
CoventryCat86

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyBadTouch

I bought them from a guy in a hotel, so no not a reputable dealer. The guys I bought them from provided the certificate and everything. Which I can post here if need be.

I have thousands of those "certificates" too. You have fake, $hitty cigars. If I were you, I'd throw them away.
12-04-2011, 12:35 AM
mrtr33

You got screwed. Get over it - what CC said.
12-04-2011, 12:39 AM
craig

You don't have to post the certificate - just enter the numbers under the certificate's barcode on the Habanos SA website and check that what the website decodes matches what you bought.

http://www.habanos.com/Sellos/Info/VerificaSelloCajon

Please post what the website gives as a response.
12-04-2011, 11:06 AM
CptnBlues63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangyrat

Find a draw poker and unplug that fake cuban.
Yep you got fake Cubans in Cuba.:smiley6:

I personally don't care if they are fake as long as they are a half decent cigar ill smoke them.

LOL - if they were purchased in Cuba, then they're probably still Cuban cigars.........just not the ones you thought you were buying. I'd still smoke them too.

Hey FuzzyBadTouch where in AB are you? I'm in AB too and so are two other members. If you're close to any one of us I'm sure we could help you figure out if they're what you paid for or not.
12-05-2011, 11:17 AM
CoventryCat86

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Originally Posted by CptnBlues63

LOL - if they were purchased in Cuba, then they're probably still Cuban cigars.........just not the ones you thought you were buying. I'd still smoke them too.

Hey FuzzyBadTouch where in AB are you? I'm in AB too and so are two other members. If you're close to any one of us I'm sure we could help you figure out if they're what you paid for or not.

You would?:smiley5: In this case, his cigars are unable to be smoked. Just in case you missed this, he said this in his first post:

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I then tried smoking it. This is where my issue arose, I tasted the cigar, the foot flared, but I did not get any smoke in my mouth. This continued and unless I was smoking or puffing on it, the cigar would eventually stop burning if let sit there.

I don't care if the tobacco came from Fidel's personal stash, if some moron who doesn't know how to roll cigars produced cigars that are virtually impossible to smoke, then THROW THEM AWAY and stop wasting your time.
12-05-2011, 11:52 AM
Roham

Ya, best case scenerio, they are all the cigars that are thrown away and some picked them out and put together a box for you, worst case scenerio, they are banana peels:smiley36:
12-05-2011, 12:16 PM
CptnBlues63

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Originally Posted by Roham

Ya, best case scenerio, they are all the cigars that are thrown away and some picked them out and put together a box for you, worst case scenerio, they are banana peels:smiley36:

That's what I was thinking. Maybe they're rejects that had imperfections or something and didn't make it into the boxes that go up for sale.

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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

You would?:smiley5: In this case, his cigars are unable to be smoked. Just in case you missed this, he said this in his first post:

I saw the mention they were unsmokable, I was just speaking generally.

If a buddy went to Cuba and came back with some cigars he bought off some dude on the beach or in the hotel, I'd try one for sure. It's still likely to be made of actual Cuban tobacco. Heck, it could very well be a second or reject or whatever you call them in which case it could be a downright decent cigar. If it tasted like sh*t or burnt lousy, I'd toss it. But you never know until you try right........lol

As much as I hate to admit it, I may have 5 fake RyJ Churchill's coming home from Mexico with my wife later on this week. She didn't buy them at LCDH so I suspect they are fakes. Since I smoke a lot of those and have two I know for sure are the real McCoy sitting in my humi, I'll be able to tell if they're fakes fairly quickly and easily. She paid $20/each for them too. So unless they're rolled up dog turds, I'm likely to smoke them just 'cause the thought of throwing $100.00 into the garbage can galls me badly. I might save them and give them to people I don't like too if they are really gross, but if they're half way smokable, I'll choke them down.........*sighing*

It's worth noting that I told my wife not to buy Cuban's anywhere in Mexico but at the LCHD store. She told me they were over $30 USD at the LCHD.....which is what I pay for them here in Canada at my favorite B&M........she got the ones she did buy at another tobacconist that only charged $20 per stick (yes, I know, that alone screams FAKE) but hey, she was thinking of me and trying to do something nice for me so I'll say nothing if they are fake except "Thank you" and if worst comes to worst, I'll flush them down the toilet and never breathe a word of it to her for risk of hurting her feelings.
12-05-2011, 12:43 PM
TommyTree

My wife and daughter bought me a birthday pipe last year. It's not briar, burns wet and hot, and burns the hell out of me. I still smoke it with a smile on my face. What's a little tongue bite between family?
12-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Paddy

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Originally Posted by TommyTree

My wife and daughter bought me a birthday pipe last year. It's not briar, burns wet and hot, and burns the hell out of me. I still smoke it with a smile on my face. What's a little tongue bite between family?

My wife informed me her daughter bought me a pipe for Christmas. Was marked $25 and on sale for $16.00
My wife also said "and you'll smoke it when she's around with a smile on your face" after I said just throw it in the bin. $16.00 ????? even a piece of shit drugstore pipe cost more than that.
These are the same kids that are afraid to ask thier mother for loans, always calling me, Paddy can I borrow $200
Paddy can I borrow $500, paddy can I borrow $1,000
All I rate is a $16.00 piece of shit :smiley20:
12-05-2011, 01:19 PM
CoventryCat86

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptnBlues63

That's what I was thinking. Maybe they're rejects that had imperfections or something and didn't make it into the boxes that go up for sale.

I saw the mention they were unsmokable, I was just speaking generally.

If a buddy went to Cuba and came back with some cigars he bought off some dude on the beach or in the hotel, I'd try one for sure. It's still likely to be made of actual Cuban tobacco. Heck, it could very well be a second or reject or whatever you call them in which case it could be a downright decent cigar. If it tasted like sh*t or burnt lousy, I'd toss it. But you never know until you try right........lol

As much as I hate to admit it, I may have 5 fake RyJ Churchill's coming home from Mexico with my wife later on this week. She didn't buy them at LCDH so I suspect they are fakes. Since I smoke a lot of those and have two I know for sure are the real McCoy sitting in my humi, I'll be able to tell if they're fakes fairly quickly and easily. She paid $20/each for them too. So unless they're rolled up dog turds, I'm likely to smoke them just 'cause the thought of throwing $100.00 into the garbage can galls me badly. I might save them and give them to people I don't like too if they are really gross, but if they're half way smokable, I'll choke them down.........*sighing*

It's worth noting that I told my wife not to buy Cuban's anywhere in Mexico but at the LCHD store. She told me they were over $30 USD at the LCHD.....which is what I pay for them here in Canada at my favorite B&M........she got the ones she did buy at another tobacconist that only charged $20 per stick (yes, I know, that alone screams FAKE) but hey, she was thinking of me and trying to do something nice for me so I'll say nothing if they are fake except "Thank you" and if worst comes to worst, I'll flush them down the toilet and never breathe a word of it to her for risk of hurting her feelings.

Yes, absolutely the right thing to do.:smiley20: Even though you told her up front to buy ONLY from a LCDH, the bottom line is she was trying to do something nice for you so you graciously accept them and smoke them. I hope in your case they can indeed be smoked which is not the case with the guy who started this thread.
12-05-2011, 03:00 PM
ggiese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy

My wife informed me her daughter bought me a pipe for Christmas. Was marked $25 and on sale for $16.00
My wife also said "and you'll smoke it when she's around with a smile on your face" after I said just throw it in the bin. $16.00 ????? even a piece of shit drugstore pipe cost more than that.
These are the same kids that are afraid to ask thier mother for loans, always calling me, Paddy can I borrow $200
Paddy can I borrow $500, paddy can I borrow $1,000
All I rate is a $16.00 piece of shit :smiley20:

You're doggone lucky you're getting something worth 16 bucks - my kids don't even get me a xmas card. And the wifey tells me to "shut up, smile and like it!" :smiley21:
12-05-2011, 03:36 PM
craig

Bloody parents with their sense of entitlement :-)

Most fakes - ALL the fakes from Cuba that I've smoked - have been disgusting and awful, and have either been thrown away or shredded and made into insecticide/fertilizer. They may have been Cuban tobacco, but that's irrelevant if no processing happened after the farm.

The fake Añejo's that a relative brought back from the DR were not that bad. Not Añejo's, but okay bundle-quality mild Maduro's, decently rolled, and a nice looking wrapper.

Just remember to deep-freeze possible fakes to kill the inevitable beetle eggs.
12-05-2011, 03:53 PM
Paddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptnBlues63

That's what I was thinking. Maybe they're rejects that had imperfections or something and didn't make it into the boxes that go up for sale.

I saw the mention they were unsmokable, I was just speaking generally.

If a buddy went to Cuba and came back with some cigars he bought off some dude on the beach or in the hotel, I'd try one for sure. It's still likely to be made of actual Cuban tobacco. Heck, it could very well be a second or reject or whatever you call them in which case it could be a downright decent cigar. If it tasted like sh*t or burnt lousy, I'd toss it. But you never know until you try right........lol

As much as I hate to admit it, I may have 5 fake RyJ Churchill's coming home from Mexico with my wife later on this week. She didn't buy them at LCDH so I suspect they are fakes. Since I smoke a lot of those and have two I know for sure are the real McCoy sitting in my humi, I'll be able to tell if they're fakes fairly quickly and easily. She paid $20/each for them too. So unless they're rolled up dog turds, I'm likely to smoke them just 'cause the thought of throwing $100.00 into the garbage can galls me badly. I might save them and give them to people I don't like too if they are really gross, but if they're half way smokable, I'll choke them down.........*sighing*

It's worth noting that I told my wife not to buy Cuban's anywhere in Mexico but at the LCHD store. She told me they were over $30 USD at the LCHD.....which is what I pay for them here in Canada at my favorite B&M........she got the ones she did buy at another tobacconist that only charged $20 per stick (yes, I know, that alone screams FAKE) but hey, she was thinking of me and trying to do something nice for me so I'll say nothing if they are fake except "Thank you" and if worst comes to worst, I'll flush them down the toilet and never breathe a word of it to her for risk of hurting her feelings.

If she remebers the name of the Tobacco shop in Playa del Cramen, I can give you the odds on weather or not it's real. I would guess that if it is fake it's smokeable. It's the shit you buy on the street or beach that you need to watch out for. I've bought many fakes ( knowing they where fake) for $5.00 each. they are all Mexican tobacco ( they don't have access to dominican tobacco) in fact outside of Cubans you can not get anything but Mexican cigars in Mexico. You could not get a Dominican cigar if you life depended on it in Playa del Carmen or Cancun for that matter.
12-05-2011, 09:22 PM
FuzzyBadTouch

Thanks to everyone who helped, Il try a cigar spike or poker to see if that helps. I don't think they are banana peels since i still get that nicotine "high" feeling after drawing on em for a while (even if there is no smoke) Il let you know what happens.

P.S I live in Edmonton
12-05-2011, 10:17 PM
craig

What did the Habanos website say about the serial number on your certificate?
12-05-2011, 10:37 PM
kevin7

Candy bought me some fake RyJ Churchills back from the Bahamas a few years ago. Decent looking cigars and they actually smoked like a potent Nicaraguan . I have some suspicions from some stuff I learned years ago they were Cuban Crafters made cigars . I always try and pick up some fakes for personal consumption when I go to Nassau just for shits and giggles . Some are better than pepins stuff LOL
12-06-2011, 12:05 AM
hed

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyTree

My wife and daughter bought me a birthday pipe last year. It's not briar, burns wet and hot, and burns the hell out of me. I still smoke it with a smile on my face. What's a little tongue bite between family?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy

My wife informed me her daughter bought me a pipe for Christmas. Was marked $25 and on sale for $16.00
My wife also said "and you'll smoke it when she's around with a smile on your face" after I said just throw it in the bin. $16.00 ????? even a piece of shit drugstore pipe cost more than that.
These are the same kids that are afraid to ask thier mother for loans, always calling me, Paddy can I borrow $200
Paddy can I borrow $500, paddy can I borrow $1,000
All I rate is a $16.00 piece of shit :smiley20:

Brothers, that's called taking one for the team! A few years back my daughter and (now) ex, both very good-looking women, got together and gave me a set of "Glamour Shots" photos of them. I appreciated the gesture, but they both looked horrendous in them, yet I've managed to keep my opinions to myself. Sorry, a bit off-topic, just saying...
12-06-2011, 01:02 AM
victory01

It's so sad this kind of thing happens to people just looking for a nice smoke. I'm just grateful I found this site before any of my trips. I prepped my gf at the time about the people who would try to sell us 'cigars' on our trip based on the threads and advice from people on this forum. She blew it off at first, but her eyes widened when hotel workers and people on the beach convincingly pushed cigars to me (cheap sticks from a cousin who works in the factory), and I denied all of them.

Brings me back...thanks CS. OP if you are serious about cigar smoking then stick around. You'll learn a hell of a lot here.
12-06-2011, 05:40 PM
ggiese

I hate to admit it - a while back I picked up some fake RyJ cigars at a Canadian rest stop right near the border by Buffalo, NY. They looked fine when I bought 'em, but could tell the minute I lit them up they were bad. The store was very much legit - but their cigars sure weren't. :smiley21:

Oh, well.. :smiley19:
12-07-2011, 10:45 AM
CptnBlues63

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Yes, absolutely the right thing to do.:smiley20: Even though you told her up front to buy ONLY from a LCDH, the bottom line is she was trying to do something nice for you so you graciously accept them and smoke them. I hope in your case they can indeed be smoked which is not the case with the guy who started this thread.

I'm hoping they're smokable too. If not, she'll never find out from me! I'll know soon enough, she's back tomorrow afternoon.

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Originally Posted by craig

Just remember to deep-freeze possible fakes to kill the inevitable beetle eggs.

I never thought about that. Thanks for the reminder. I have a couple cigar bags and humi packs. I'll pop them in one while looking them over and trying one. If they're smokable, I'll freeze em for a few days (guess I could just stick them outside too.........LOL) before sticking sticking them in my humi with the rest of my meager stash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy

If she remebers the name of the Tobacco shop in Playa del Cramen, I can give you the odds on weather or not it's real. I would guess that if it is fake it's smokeable. It's the shit you buy on the street or beach that you need to watch out for. I've bought many fakes ( knowing they where fake) for $5.00 each. they are all Mexican tobacco ( they don't have access to dominican tobacco) in fact outside of Cubans you can not get anything but Mexican cigars in Mexico. You could not get a Dominican cigar if you life depended on it in Playa del Carmen or Cancun for that matter.

All I know for sure at the moment is she did buy them in a shop. I'll ask her if she remembers the name when she gets back but I'd wager she doesn't. I know they went through many different stores that day.........lol. If she does remember I'll check that PM from you which listed the names of the reputable places and see if it's in your list. If not, well, I'll just try one and see how I like it........lol
12-19-2011, 01:55 PM
b.read

Had a similar situation while in Cozumel recently. My wife ended up buying me a "Cohiba" robusto while we were there. I have the "quotes" there as I am not sure if it was real or not, I'm guessing not. Either way, it turned out to be a pretty good smoke so it didn't keep me from enjoying it...
12-20-2011, 12:09 PM
CptnBlues63

So the wife made it back from Mexico and the 5 RyJ Churchill's were actually real ones. I suspect she bought them at the shop you mentioned Paddy and will confirm when we go in March.........together this time..........lol..........as I'll be going to that same shop the day after we arrive to purchase some cigars to smoke while there. I plan on trying out as many different Mexican cigars as I can in hopes of finding a few I like enough to bring some home and stash in my humi.

On a different note.............a fellow I work with was just in Cuba. He had gone last year and after returning I mentioned to him if he went again and was willing, I'd like it if he picked me up some cigars. He remembered and bought a box of Cohiba Esplendidos from "a guy at his hotel"

ROFLMAO

As soon as I heard that I knew they weren't the real McCoy but since he went to the expense (he paid $60.00 for a box of 25 - again, FAKE ALERT!) I bought 20 off him (he was giving the other 5 away to someone else) for $50 and said thank you and wasn't going to bother him with the fact these weren't what he was told they were. He then mentioned his daughter is getting married there in a month or two and asked if I'd like him to bring me some more cigars back. I said "You bet" and asked him to get me two boxes of RyJ Churchills.

I also confessed to him his were fakes and why I knew it because I wanted him to go to a LCDH store to buy my Churchills.
Reasons I knew they were fake:
1) The box had nothing on the outside, no seal, no "Habanos" sticker across the top right corner, no hologram
2) there was a seal but it was inside the box
3) the Cohiba bands we all messed up. Some weren't on straight. Some only showed 2 rows of dots above the Cohiba name and on quite a few, the Cohiba name was off centered

However, as I said earlier in this thread, I would try them and I did. First I took them home and pulled out the one and only Cohiba Esplendido I have in my possession and did a side-by-side comparison. Color, texture, cap, and smell all matched up pretty darn good so I smoked one. It was goood!

Are they Cohiba Esplendido I wondered, perhaps seconds or rejects!?!? Beats the heck out of me. Having only ever had 2 of those before I can't tell. I do know I enjoyed it so I figure at $2.50 each I did ok..........at least I'm not making them into fertilizer or tossing them out, and they are decent and smokable........lol........just goes to show, sometimes you can get lucky!