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Although I have had a cigar here and there for years I still consider myself to be a noob. I have determined that what I like more than anything else in a cigar is a good, smooth draw. The Fuente rolled cigars have been the best I have experienced thus far. I am looking for some suggestions outside of the Fuente lines that would provide a decent flavor and a great draw. Can all you experienced smokers give me a few suggestions?
JMHO, of course:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbeefy
I've had good and bad draws on various cigars of various lines. Maybe I just haven't had enough yet, but Camacho & Padron have never had a tight draw for me. I like draws a little more on the light side, and to me these have always hit that mark. Flavor-wise most of each of those lines are good, but I've had a few duds here and there.
Will
I find the smoothest drawing cigars to be the ones rolled on the thighs of Nicaraguan virgins. Determining which ones those are takes years of experience and study. I suggest you get started. I'm not giving up any of my secrets.
Doc
Maybe you would like a Berger and Argenti Entubar. They utilize the entubar bunching process. Seems to me like this bunching process allows channels of air to run through the cigar. Since oxygen is key to combustion, this could be a good a thing!
Here's a page at Tobacconist University that I found very informative: http://tobacconistuniversity.org/tob...m-rolling2.asp
Cool site. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
I'm going to start a religion where you get 16 cigar rolling Nicaraguan virgins when you die. Who's in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil Doc
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Originally Posted by Devil Doc
Virgins come in all shapes and sizes...some more likely than others if you catch my drift.:smiley3:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbeefy
ETA: We're talking about female virgins, just to be clear?:smiley36:
Well i'm glad you made that clear, since you have a relativly small size 8 ass.
Doc.
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Originally Posted by Devil Doc
Are we talking dress sizes?
I'm never really sure what we're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangyrat
All cigar rollers use the same "bunching" process for long filler cigars. It's in the skill of the roller that the cigar is not bunched too tight. I don't think anyone necessarily has that market cornered (e.g. "the entubar bunching process") - it's more in the quality control process. Even the Cuban cigar factories have been struggling with ensuring their cigars do not have a tight draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
Fuente does have a very tightly controlled QC process. A number of other factories do as well. Davidoff is another that comes to kind, though (as Will said) Padron and Camacho do as well.
honestly, I've done very well by staying away from cheap cigars. I've noticed my largest issue with draw has usually been with bargain basement stuff.
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Originally Posted by ggiese
...Ricardo Montalban made a fortune selling Chrysler cars with his "rich Corinthian leather.." schtick. :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
Enlighten us o wise oneQuote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
I'm quite certain fish is well versed in cigar manufacture and can elucidate the differences between entubar, accordian and book styles of rolling. More importantly - he can talk about the advantages of each and discuss the skill of the roller and how each style matches their ability...Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin7
I highly fucking doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
I'm not very educated in cigar rolling, other than what I've read and tried myself. I simply meant that these styles, that is, entubar, accordian, and book bunching are inherently different. Thus, all torcederos don't use the same bunching technique in regards to long filler cigars.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
I'm no expert, and I haven't really read a lot on the above link, but I remember when they first appeared, and I thought the whole site seemed kinda shady, and sorta a marketing strategy. I mean, what they seem to be "certifying" is tobacconists. I don't see any sort of manufacturer certification. Padron is a sponsor of the site, and Jorge is a "certified honorary tobacconist."Quote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
Again, I can't verify any of the information on there, but based on that I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Will
I'm a little weary of the website too. There isn't one mention of virgins or their supple thighs!Quote:
Originally Posted by badwhale
That was my first tipoff. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
Ggiese, I didn't mean to be so vague and blunt. I was drinking last night and can get a little exasperating. My wife has a Hundai, I always say that it has rich Koreanthian leather, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
I see what you did there. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
Not that it needs to be said, but personal observation leads me to conclude that drinking and forum posting can sometimes lead to foot in mouth disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by FightingFish
I knew what your were saying, and assumed from that you did not know what I was saying. Don't buy into marketing hype - sometimes it's meant to enlighten but it's always meant to sell. :smiley2:
What do you guys think about the different shapes of cigars, in regards to a smooth draw? I seem to find plugs most often under the band on parejo cigars. Usually I can work these out with some rolling between my thumb and index finger. With pyramids or torpedos I find the head of the cigar is more often plugged. This seems to be more catastrophic. When trying to work out the plug, I've ripped the wrapper or ended up cutting too much of the cap. :smiley6:
I haven't really noticed a big difference between shapes or sizes, the biggest difference I have noticed seems to be related to price...unfortunately.
These are my favorites
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You may want to try a VSG by Ashton. If you are in Vegas go to Casa Fuente and pick up the house cigar.
I did see that Padron was posted. I have only had the 1964 Anniversary. Great draw and great taste.
How did your grammar and typing skills improve so quickly? Pretty impressive. :smiley20:Whats that smell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swif
Must be in the food.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreekTitan
Garbage in...Garbage out. Cow Patties don't work for you. Maybe you should be a VeganQuote:
Originally Posted by Swif
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Originally Posted by TheGreekTitan
Your right steaks are for me and not those patties you speak off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreekTitan
Let me know how the garbage smells.
Any dipshit that supposedly buys a $1200 humidor sight unseen knows exactly what garbage smells like. It's that first stink you smell when you wake up in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swif
So how does all this have to do with the thread that was started?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreekTitan
Still awing for you to show were I lied in my post?
Maybe you can start a thread about.
Back to smooth drawing sticks. I also think the Mi Amor is not bad. the price on the stinks is great.
What happened to the proper grammar Stinky?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swif