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I'm fairly new to "good" cigars.
I was looking at the review section and realized I don't know what most of the stuff means.
Can someone explain the terminology or direct me to where it might be explained.
I do understand some, but most of the flavor things I do not. Things like leathery, woodsy, salt water taffy notes...that sort of thing.
thanks,
Matt
Welcome to the board, I hope you enjoy your stay. Smoke more cigars.Quote:
Originally Posted by ash13brook
What do you taste when you smoke a cigar? Do you taste anything other than "smoke"?Quote:
Originally Posted by ash13brook
Please don't get hung up on what something tastes like - smoke what you like to smoke. When someone is referring to "Leather", or "grassy" - most often they're trying to characterize what is predominently coming to mind while they're smoking the cigar. Similar to someone attempting to describe the flavors in a wine or other "spirit" (e.g. Scotch, Bourbon, Cognac, etc.).
To Jamie's (ashauler) point - smoke cigars until you find what you favor and what you don't care for. All the rest falls into place with time...
Ahhhh... Two people advising me to smoke more cigars...Does it really get any better than that?
Thanks, I'll stop worrying about it,
Matt
Send a PM to DevilDoc. He gets all sorts of weird flavors out of his cigars. Anything from Corinthian Leather to cardamom and nutmeg.
...especially chocolate! He LOVES chocolate! :smiley20:Quote:
Originally Posted by MoeCizlak
I guess I was really confused when I started last year also, I forget how weird it was to hear all of those flavors and not pick up anything like that. I think I started understanding when I first had a gispert toro, and I could tell that what made it different than the others, was how grassy it was in comparison. It all starts with trying so many, that your mind decides what straight tobacco tastes like, then the rest of the tastes differ from stick to stick. Good luck it won't take long!
Huh? What? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I'm not quite sure what "straight tobacco" tastes like. Are you talking maybe cigarettes?Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
...there's no comparison to cigarettes (or Swisher Sweets - or Backwoods...).
You sure have lots of smoking to do before you're going to pick out flavors, Steffanan.
I'm saying the flavour of tobacco without other tastes. Really what's the point in picking that apart? I don't think I really said anything that stupid, or anything that should show me to be a beginner right there. I mean no offence, I just love this forum and I don't want people starting to dislike me for no reason.
What's wrong with being a beginner?Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
Well I hope to be further along than a beginner after probably 60 cigars. I guess I just take it seriously because being 19, nobody automatically believes I know what I am talking about, so I have to work at it. I hate my age group, it pulls respect away from me in society cause of how they act. Cigars are my time away from that, if I can't be respected here, I'm out of luck until I grow up
Seriously, 60 cigars? That's about two months worth for some.....a week and a half for others. I'd suggest to you that beyond the basics, you have yet to scratch the surface.Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
I'm not sure aNyone "dislikes" you. That's pretty harsh, wouldn't you say?Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
But - if you offer advice, please think about what you're writing. Your opinion is only valid if the information you're offering is valid. And - if you put something out there that's thought provoking - be prepared to be able to explain your post. :smiley20:
Through that process we all learn.
I say embrace being 19 and whatever baggage that may bring. There will be plenty of time to be old and well respected when you are old and have earned the respect.
Alright guys, I get it. I will read posts, smoke my cigars, and leave it at that.
...and one day you, too, will taste chocolate, leather, Madagascar vanilla, black currants, etc instead of "straight tobacco". :smiley37:Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
Smoked a stick the other day I didn't care for; seemed to be all smoke and no taste. I let my wife have a puff (she's never smoked a whole cigar) and she tasted coffee. :-( I'm offering up prayers for palate development for all us newbies...
Pshht, im so developed, that I can taste the fart from the farmer who let one go while he was irrigating, I was just taking about the straight (forward) tobacco taste that is in most cigars. I guess I don't realize how I come across when I talk.
You want straight tobacco taste? Try a one of the Padron 1926 line with a natural wrapper. To my palate, there is nothing there but pure, beautiful tobacco taste. They ain't cheap, but they are a wonderful way to spend a couple of hours.
You should be able to pick up that "farmer fart" taste whilst smoking an Acid... :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
...and I must concede - there's is a "straight tobacco" taste in what some consider at least one line of "premium" cigars. If nothing else, and even though the "straight tobacco" taste is pretty subtle in Macanoodles, I think I've tasted it from time to time...
I personally can't describe much in the way of a cigars tastes other than the body. All I care about was did I enjoy it. I am not a newby to cigars. Smoke probably 5/6 a week. Just enjoy your hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by steffanan
'nuff said:smiley20:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor71
Welcome from Bitterville
Lol, I've been smoking cigars for over 10 years, 5-6 a day and I still fail to get most of the flavor descriptions some people use.
For example - leathery. Who in their right mind has ever tasted leather?!? I have no idea how leather is supposed to taste. Or "grassy" - when was the last time you went outside to browse on some grass? I think people refer to the bitter-sweet taste of come cigars as "grassy", but how can I be sure? I've mowed grass, but that's as far as I've taken that relationship...To add to the confusion, some people seem to use cocoa (bitter) and chocolate (sweet) interchangeably or use "nutty" with disregard of the difference between hazelnut and walnut...
Thus the advice to smoke more cigars is the correct one. The more you smoke, the less you will care about reviews :)
Thanks for the input.
You are aware that taste and smell are closely related, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrRus
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Originally Posted by DrRus
...the last time I got punched in the face with a boxing glove! And for some odd reason - I can never seem to get that flavor out of my head!!! :smiley36:Quote:
Who in their right mind has ever tasted leather?!?
No - I understand and appreciate why some would say not to get "hung up" on looking for the flavors, but I also understand and appreciate why folks would use "flavors" as a descriptor.
Personally, I have found smoking cigars for me is often a thought filled process. Perhaps because I use cigar smoking as a legal means of "escape". Not that I'm necessarily looking to pick out flavors, but few things are more pleasurable for me than to smoke a cigar and think about how that cigar "tastes".
I do appreciate reviews where the person writing shares their "impressions" of the flavors they're tasting. And - I try to imagine I taste the same thing. Certainly - if someone is telling me they taste "grassy", "citrus", "floral tones" - and I taste "leather", "dark chocolate", "plum" flavors - I have to question where the discrepancy may be. I also appreciate someone giving me a frame of reference. If I'm under the impression and anticipating I should be smoking a "spicy" cigar, and it's not - I truly am disappointed.
To those that are uninitiated - stick with just smoking the cigars and forget for the time about developing your "palate". Trust me - eventually - once in a while and in some strange ways you might just start tasting "flavors".
I see what you are saying, I just hate when people decide to use subjective descriptions like "leather" and "nuts".
I've always wondered - why, with so many different foods we have all tasted and are very familiar with, some people are still hung up on using terms like "leather", i.e. something that no one knows its taste?!?
I still read reviews, but mostly to see if people are experiencing construction issues, the overall impression of the tobacco (good leaf or cheap leaf) and if the cigar leans towards the peppery side, the sweet side or the bitter side.
Who the fuck cares what you like or hate. Welcome to the board ,check things out and familiarize yourself with the place or the door will hit you in the ass real quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrRus
Lol, no wonder this forum has 5 active members and one post a month, hehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin7
P.S. Now there are just 4 active members :smiley2: ...
bye bye asshat