Disapionted with reganyouth84

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08-25-2005, 05:54 PM
cigarsarge

Disapionted with reganyouth84

About a month ago I agreed to a trade with reganyouth84. It was more or less a blind fiver trade. I thought he was Ok.

As the story goes I send him my end. He said he had to go to the smoke shop and get my end. He PMs me back and says the shop closed early and he was not able to get em...first red flag. In the meantime my cigars are shipped in a timely manner and arrive safely. We exchange PMs and I ask when my end was comming and why it had not been shipped.

Well he replies...I ran short of money for school and have not bought your smokes.

To make a long story short I've been waiting for about three weeks and still no cigars. I have PMed him...no response. The last time he was on the board was 08/18/05.

The cigars are not the problem. I can get cigars anytime I need em. The problem is appearantly he is writing checks he can't cash or he is a scammer.

To the newbies...Don't make agreements that you can't keep your end of. Better to wait for the proper time to trade than to push it.

By the way...The cigar community is a good place. This is the first time I have had trouble with anyone over a cigar deal...But be carefull. :smiley37:
08-25-2005, 06:13 PM
Diesel Grinch

Sorry to hear this Sarge. Do you want my spot in the Cigar Draft? I still have 3 picks left. Shaping up to be a nice fiver. You can have the spot and picks and I'll just send them out to you once its over. Just send me the your addy.
08-25-2005, 06:20 PM
cigarsarge

I'm ok...Just a tad pissed. Enjoy the lotto. :smiley20:

Thanks for the offer DG.
08-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Diesel Grinch

No problem. It's yours if you change your mine.
08-25-2005, 06:35 PM
hex1848

Yup, this kind of thing ticks me off. I tried to AIM him yesterday but never got any sort of response. If your going to trade with someone have nads to at least own up and stay in contact with the person if you can't make the trade till your checks come in.

While I just got out of college a couple of years ago and I know what its like to be dead broke and not have any cash to my name, you didn’t see me making trades (of any kind) when I knew I couldn’t keep my end of the bargain.
08-25-2005, 06:38 PM
Hugh Jorgan

Damn Sarge, sorry to hear that you got burned.

It looks like Reaganyouth has some 'splaining to do. :smiley7: :smiley21:
08-25-2005, 06:39 PM
Hugh Jorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hex1848

Yup, this kind of thing ticks me off. I tried to AIM him yesterday but never got any sort of response. If your going to trade with someone have nads to at least own up and stay in contact with the person if you can't make the trade till your checks come in.

While I just got out of college a couple of years ago and I know what its like to be dead broke and not have any cash to my name, you didn’t see me making trades (of any kind) when I knew I couldn’t keep my end of the bargain.

Hex, does Reaganyouth owe you sticks too? :smiley22:
08-25-2005, 06:49 PM
jaewing

OBVIOUS TRADING RULE #1:

Do not enter into a trade with sticks you do not have! Duh.

If you have to go to the shop AFTER you have already entered into the trade then you have already dropped the ball BIG TIME! Also do not make $$$ commitments unless you have the $$$ in the account. Not "I get paid Friday so I will send you a check then" Thats BS.

My .02

p.s. - I have a full box of Opus X for trade . . . send me your end first :smiley36:
08-25-2005, 07:43 PM
QuietC

that sucks man, keep us posted if anything changes.
08-25-2005, 08:15 PM
hevyboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuietC

that sucks man, keep us posted if anything changes.

Ditto :smiley6:
08-25-2005, 09:27 PM
nhcigarfan

Yeah that sucks. Seems strange, he seemed to enjoy the board. I hope he comes through and has a good explanation. Everyone hits bumps in the road but the key to riding them through is communication.

I know you don't need them but I'm with Diesel this is an offer in friendship Not charity - so slide into the draft. I'll give up two picks, take 2 of the 3 offered from Diesel and three of us get 4. Cool with me. Besides the three of use were a row in the FC pass. It all seems good to me. Besides this board is fun and relatively tight. I like it that way. We certainly have more of a "community" here than most places.

If you lived next door I would certainly let you borrow the lawn mower, let alone hand over a couple of sticks. Hop on board.
:smiley37:
08-25-2005, 09:39 PM
cigarsarge

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Yeah that sucks. Seems strange, he seemed to enjoy the board. I hope he comes through and has a good explanation. Everyone hits bumps in the road but the key to riding them through is communication.

I know you don't need them but I'm with Diesel this is an offer in friendship Not charity - so slide into the draft. I'll give up two picks, take 2 of the 3 offered from Diesel and three of us get 4. Cool with me. Besides the three of use were a row in the FC pass. It all seems good to me. Besides this board is fun and relatively tight. I like it that way. We certainly have more of a "community" here than most places.

If you lived next door I would certainly let you borrow the lawn mower, let alone hand over a couple of sticks. Hop on board.
:smiley37:

Thanks again..You guys just have fun. The sarge is just glad to be a part of this place. :smiley20: You folks humble me. :smiley37:
08-26-2005, 11:02 AM
alexgtp

unreal..

i go out of my way to make sure a trade i do is complete. I have been burned by the usps losing stick and i always replace them.. when ppl are not happy in their trades with me due to damaged sticks or sticks not up tho their expectation I always send them out something more to make it right.. Its bastiges like him that ruin it for everyone.!

I hope ppl learn to trade with caution..and always have something in your humi to trade.. not something at the store .. what a cheap excuse..
08-26-2005, 11:32 AM
cigar no baka

Damn sorry to hear that. That's very disappointing. He obviously should have lived up to his end, and has earned a bad rep for not doing so.
08-26-2005, 02:30 PM
hex1848

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

Hex, does Reaganyouth owe you sticks too? :smiley22:

No, but I tried to contact him to make this situation a lot easier for everyone involved. I'm going to AIM him with a link to the thread to see if he has anything to say.
08-26-2005, 08:18 PM
mithril

thanks for the heads up sarge, i'll keep him on my 'watch' list. let us know if he accually completes his agreement.
08-26-2005, 08:21 PM
superman78

Dman republicans,he is probably out beating people over the head with a bible :smiley36: actually disregard that it could get ugly fast
08-26-2005, 10:20 PM
cigar no baka

Damn Democrats, they wanna ban smoking till you can only smoke in the house, then send Smoke Nazis in your house cause your endangering your spouses health, or your kids, or your own, or costing too much in health care so they can ban it completely....blah blah blah.
08-26-2005, 10:41 PM
grand cru no 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

Damn Democrats, they wanna ban smoking till you can only smoke in the house, then send Smoke Nazis in your house cause your endangering your spouses health, or your kids, or your own, or costing too much in health care so they can ban it completely....blah blah blah.

And your backyard too, because the smoke could carry over the fence and give your neighbor emphysema (sp?). :smiley36:
08-27-2005, 02:52 PM
cigarsarge

Well folks..It's Saturday. Most computer folks have checked theirs at least once. Reganyouth84 has not logged on, at least under his handle.

I think with all this discussion he knows by now what is going on here. I strongly suspect I have been had.

That's all well and good. :smiley37:
08-27-2005, 03:00 PM
Hugh Jorgan

Time to head on over to CigarThief.com Sarge. :smiley20:
08-27-2005, 03:04 PM
cigarsarge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

Time to head on over to CigarThief.com Sarge. :smiley20:

That is exactly what I'm gonna do.
08-27-2005, 03:11 PM
CoventryCat86

My guess is that he's getting ready to go back to school this week. It still does not excuse him for not sending his end of the trade......
08-27-2005, 03:15 PM
Hugh Jorgan

Yes, the timetable is less worrisome than the fact that he has failed to communicate his intentions.
08-27-2005, 03:34 PM
cigarsarge

Poor communication is the main factor. When owed something cut off communication is a sure sign of bad intent.

Gonna give him a couple of days and then do what needs to be done.
08-27-2005, 07:56 PM
Diesel Grinch

Since your a LO is their anything you can do? Mail Fraud or thief?
08-27-2005, 08:23 PM
cigarsarge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Grinch

Since your a LO is their anything you can do? Mail Fraud or thief?

Nope..If anything it wouild be a civil matter. Not worth pursuing.
08-27-2005, 09:40 PM
basil

wow I thought cigarthief.com was just some kind of wishful thinking/lightheartedness and then I typed it in address bar and sure as shit there it is - a cigar smoker wall of shame. IBD.
08-28-2005, 08:01 AM
PuffTheMagicDragon

I go t ripped on a trade on another popular board. It was a newbie trade where a newbie traded with one of the board vetrans. To ensure that the vet wasn't ripped by some new guy, the newb sent out first. When the vet received, he sends out his half. Well, being the newb, I sent out a nice selection worth $40+ to a seemingly well regarded vet, he acknowledged receipt and I have still not gotten my half. This was back in May. Go figure. It does burn me alittle, not because of the money so much but because I trusted this guy and look what happens.
08-28-2005, 08:19 AM
Hugh Jorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuffTheMagicDragon

I go t ripped on a trade on another popular board. It was a newbie trade where a newbie traded with one of the board vetrans. To ensure that the vet wasn't ripped by some new guy, the newb sent out first. When the vet received, he sends out his half. Well, being the newb, I sent out a nice selection worth $40+ to a seemingly well regarded vet, he acknowledged receipt and I have still not gotten my half. This was back in May. Go figure. It does burn me alittle, not because of the money so much but because I trusted this guy and look what happens.

What cigar forum? Whch member? ( If you don't want it posted, PM it please. )

If you don't bring these problems to the attention of those that can help, some other individual will eventually get screwed too, just do it diplomatically,
06-24-2006, 06:42 PM
nhcigarfan

bump for the poll
06-24-2006, 06:59 PM
slcraiders

This was before my time. Thanks and sorry- I was not aware that Mike had the checkered history. :smiley7:

Puts a new perspective on things...