I am not the CigarPass Hacker

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03-13-2006, 09:50 AM
hex1848

I am not the CigarPass Hacker

It has come to my attention that the Rod at Cigarpass is making accusations that I hacked his community and caused the virus situation many of his members have experienced. I am a professional in the technology industry and although not directly involved in the security aspect of things, I know what it's like to have to clean up after a break in. It's not fun and it costs money. I take the White Hat approach to administration.

I had nothing to do with this or any break in attempt at Cigarpass.com. Period.

Rod, I have never said or done anything negatively towards you or your site. The fact that you would make these sort of accusations behind my back with out an email or PM or any sort of communication appalls me. I don't know you but I always give people the benefit of the doubt. You have shown your true colors to me in the last week, I hope you try to rectify the situation.

I sent Rod an email with my phone number at 9:26 AM EST I invite him to communicate with me regarding this situation. I have nothing to hide.
03-13-2006, 09:55 AM
nhcigarfan

Alright enough hiding Rod. Time for you to salvage yourself.
03-13-2006, 10:04 AM
Diesel Grinch

Never even consider it Hex.

DG
03-13-2006, 10:13 AM
CoventryCat86

We know you had nothing to do with it Hex.
03-13-2006, 10:16 AM
ukyfan

OK, what the Hell is going on? First it looks like someone is trying to hack into the admin page here, and fingers point to someone from CigarPass. Then CigarPass goes down with some type of virus and Hex gets blamed for it?!?!? What the Hell? I always thought that these 2 boards got along pretty well with each other.

And on a side note... What is the deal with CC? I came on this morning and saw that he was banned? Or is that just his new title? If it is... ok I am a moron ;)
03-13-2006, 10:32 AM
Bkcloud114

I think we should all sit down and have a cigar together.....

This is all bullshit
03-13-2006, 10:32 AM
centurycigar

Let me tell you, it is one nasty virus.
Im still trying to get it off my home PC.
AVG is good but its not getting rid of everything. Windows Defeder found a couple pieces of it as well, but not everything. I might have to wipe the HD.

Hex, I dont believe for a minute you are capable of such a malicious act.
03-13-2006, 10:45 AM
hex1848

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukyfan

OK, what the Hell is going on? First it looks like someone is trying to hack into the admin page here, and fingers point to someone from CigarPass. Then CigarPass goes down with some type of virus and Hex gets blamed for it?!?!? What the Hell? I always thought that these 2 boards got along pretty well with each other.

I've never had any problems with cigar pass or Rod. I think his forum has a lot to offer the internet cigar community. A lot of times it's important for Admins to work together to help catch problems that affect multiple boards. I hope we can work past everything that has transpired and continue to have a good relationship, but it's going to take some honestly on Rod's part for that to happen.

Quote:

And on a side note... What is the deal with CC? I came on this morning and saw that he was banned? Or is
that just his new title? If it is... ok I am a moron ;)

CC is a dick, he isn't banned.
03-13-2006, 10:51 AM
Diesel Grinch

Quote:

Originally Posted by hex1848

I've never had any problems with cigar pass or Rod. I think his forum has a lot to offer the internet cigar community. A lot of times it's important for Admins to work together to help catch problems that affect multiple boards. I hope we can work past everything that has transpired and continue to have a good relationship, but it's going to take some honestly on Rod's part for that to happen.

CC is a dick, he isn't banned.

So the Honesty has started. ROFLMAO!

DG
03-13-2006, 10:56 AM
CoventryCat86

Quote:

Originally Posted by hex1848

CC is a dick, he isn't banned.

LMAO! There's a glitch in the "Member title" word filter, it won't let you call yourself "administrator" or "moderator" but you can ban yourself.:smiley36:
03-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Drake

i don't think Rod deseves this much of an explaination.
03-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Shagaroo

Surely Rod hasn't become that much of a hypocrite after his sermon about how "true BOTL" behave that he would be throwing around accusations like this without showing any proof. When Hex confronted Rod it was out in the open with the evidence he had provided for all to see. Personally, sounds to me like some shitstain who is on the inside of both forums, perhaps snobs as well, and has a personal beef with how things are done here, and were done there, is trying to destroy the two boards by playing us all against each other.

It's reached the point it has real world ramifications and it needs to end. I don't care for Rod or what CP has become, but I don't wish for the place to be destroyed. I thinks it's time for everyone to man up and end this board war shit before people really start losing their minds. It's time to concentrate on finding the fucker behind it.

Hopefully Rod can now see it's time to out the sleazy focker that started this shit in the first place.
03-13-2006, 11:17 AM
nhcigarfan

Edited - sorry in retrospect I believe this issue is to important for joking around.
03-13-2006, 11:21 AM
cigarsarge

Keep up the good work hex. You show a high level of class. I'm proud to be a member here.:smiley20:
03-13-2006, 11:26 AM
Baron Porthos

Nobody would believe you are any way hex.

Baron
03-13-2006, 11:35 AM
godfather

I don't think you did this hex.

The pattern is pretty typical. Someone finds an exploit in a piece of software or an OS and then decides to try it out somewhere that hasn't been patched.

Something similar like this happened to my friend's unix server about a year ago. Someone found a known exploit in the Apache server and decided to go to town with it.

Same case here I'm sure.
03-13-2006, 11:39 AM
ukyfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hex1848

I've never had any problems with cigar pass or Rod. I think his forum has a lot to offer the internet cigar community. A lot of times it's important for Admins to work together to help catch problems that affect multiple boards. I hope we can work past everything that has transpired and continue to have a good relationship, but it's going to take some honestly on Rod's part for that to happen.

Well this is the first forum that I found and I like to think of this place as my home. And from my short time here I have never had a problem and would like to think that this is a respectable board... well minus CC and his ever present bashing of any NCAA basketball team other than UConn :smiley2:

Anyway, my point is that from all that I have seen I wouldn't think that Hex you would have caused the probs over at Pass
03-13-2006, 11:48 AM
alexgtp

For what it is worth.

There was a recent rash of exploits to Invision powerboards. Seems they found a vulnerable exploit.

******It has come to our attention that a potential XSS attack exists in all versions of IPB 2.1.x which can allow javascript to be executed via PM under some circumstances.********

Downloading the IPB 2.1.5 (08-03-06) Patch

Someone/ persons have hacked numerous boards. This has been happening for the past 2-3 weeks.

There are 4 invision boards I frequent and all have been attacked. It loads a nasty scripting back door trojan along with spy sherrif.

If you are on a machine that has bloakc pop upw and scripting you should be ok. Or if you have real time protection for viruses.

I think it was just a bad timing this happened. With all the stuff that has been goin on lately.

I dont think there is bad blood between Hex and Rod. BOth seem like good guys who are here to support our CIGAR community by maintaining their respective boards.
03-13-2006, 12:42 PM
NullSmurf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bkcloud114

I think we should all sit down and have a cigar together.....

This is all bullshit

I'm with you, man.
03-13-2006, 12:42 PM
drew_goring

Never though for a minute that you did it Hex...Apparently it was a Russian hacker and his board wasn't the first.
03-13-2006, 12:47 PM
NullSmurf

I've confirmed with Rod that this was a scripted attack, capitalizing on a hole in Invision. I seriously doubt that a human was ever involved, and it certainly wasn't personal. Source was Russia, at least a Russian script. The source IP was spoofed.

Hex, I'm not close enough to know if Rod made an accusation. You both seem to be men of integrety. Maybe you can mend your fences, but at worst, I hope you can both agree to despise each other and get on with life.
03-13-2006, 01:23 PM
CoventryCat86

Quote:

Originally Posted by NullSmurf

I've confirmed with Rod that this was a scripted attack, capitalizing on a hole in Invision. I seriously doubt that a human was ever involved, and it certainly wasn't personal. Source was Russia, at least a Russian script. The source IP was spoofed.

Hex, I'm not close enough to know if Rod made an accusation. You both seem to be men of integrety. Maybe you can mend your fences, but at worst, I hope you can both agree to despise each other and get on with life.

Huh?:smiley29:

I like Rod, I really do but he's got to learn to not jump to conclusions........
03-13-2006, 02:23 PM
hex1848

I woke up this morning and had 2 emails and a PM from different people informing me that Rod was making these sort of statements in private.

Something along the lines of "I certain Miguel Gonzalez from CigarSmokers is behind these attacks, we may be in for a legal battle" blah blah blah. (words changed to protect the sources)

While I'm happy they know who the hacker is, it does trouble me that these kind of statements were ever made. I'm not at all the kind of person who is going to break into anyones site for any reason. I would expect an apology, you have my number Rod.

If you need any help analyzing the logs or anything, I would be more then happy to help out.
03-13-2006, 02:34 PM
NullSmurf

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Huh?:smiley29:

I like Rod, I really do but he's got to learn to not jump to conclusions........

Damned good advice for everyone, CC. Impetuous frigging youth!
03-13-2006, 03:25 PM
thepyrofish

Every time I start to really feel at home on a board, it seems to get into a big war with others/offshoots. At least I'm on the good side of it this time. Last time I ended up leaving to a smaller board. (This experience was not a Cigar BB)
03-13-2006, 03:33 PM
cockyhoskins

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

LMAO! There's a glitch in the "Member title" word filter, it won't let you call yourself "administrator" or "moderator" but you can ban yourself.:smiley36:

Holy crap! CC can ban HIMSELF! :smiley4:

Man, I step away for a week or so and come back to Cigar Armageddon! hex is a straight up guy. No chance he hacked into someone else's board.
03-13-2006, 05:37 PM
kevin7

Prolly the only person who will know who this guy is is Sid. Hey Sid does the behavior exhibited by rod at cp remind you of BOBERT????????????????
03-13-2006, 05:41 PM
bigpoppapuff

lolol......he seemed to invent the word "meltdown"....
03-13-2006, 05:48 PM
cameroncouch02

Some people love to get shit started it seems.
03-13-2006, 05:54 PM
The Master

Hex, this doesn't have anything to do with this current situation but if you ever need to run an IP addy on someone causing trouble, I would be more than happy to check if they are a member at Cigar Family. I am a moderator over there and have access to IP's.
03-13-2006, 05:58 PM
kevin7

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Master

Hex, this doesn't have anything to do with this current situation but if you ever need to run an IP addy on someone causing trouble, I would be more than happy to check if they are a member at Cigar Family. I am a moderator over there and have access to IP's.

Ha Ha Master has slain more asshats than most of us will ever see. :smiley41:
03-13-2006, 06:35 PM
The Master

Kevin, it's what I live for. lololol
03-14-2006, 02:34 AM
PassThis

Hex,

Looks like the IP was spoofed to a Russian address. Got no beef with you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Been a crappy week, though I'm sure things will become normal again soon in the cigar world.

All the best to you! :smiley20:
03-14-2006, 10:40 PM
moki

Quote:

Originally Posted by godfather

I don't think you did this hex.

The pattern is pretty typical. Someone finds an exploit in a piece of software or an OS and then decides to try it out somewhere that hasn't been patched.

Something similar like this happened to my friend's unix server about a year ago. Someone found a known exploit in the Apache server and decided to go to town with it.

Same case here I'm sure.

For what it's worth, I can verify that there is a security hole in some versions of Invision BB -- we've been in touch with the company, and are upgrading our forums as well, to prevent the kind of hack that hit CigarPass.com

Typically the motivation is money... I'll explain. People search out forum software vulnerabilities, then hack into them, and infect as many members of the site as possible.

The viral cocktail that the are forced to quaff allows people to use their machines as "zombies" to send out spam... for which the person controlling said computers is paid money.

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