Help with bigger humi

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06-08-2006, 06:09 PM
Shelby07

Help with bigger humi

I ordered a bigger humidor last month and expect it to be delivered here pretty soon. I also got the oasis plus xl. When I set this up should I put a couple of bead tubes in it or do you think the oasis will hold things pretty steady? I'm thinking of 2 4oz tubes away from the oasis unit and the oasis set at 65%. I know it can't hurt, but is it overkill? Also, I've read where the oasis does a pretty good job of seasoning the humi pretty quickly but don't know if I believe it. Anybody heard anything different? The unit is the one from cheaphumidors.com that I've seen here before, so I know at least one is out there.

http://www.cheaphumidors.com/Merchan...ode=LGHUMIDORS

Thanks!

Mark
06-08-2006, 06:27 PM
slcraiders

Shelby,

Why dump the 90- 100 bucks on the Oasis plus buy beads? Go the the heartfelt site. They have a calculation for beads needed per cubic foot of the humi along with a calc for measuring cubic feet. Get all beads. Distribute them evenly throughout the humi and pick up a glade fan to circulate the air. Discard the scented packages-- of course. I stole this idea from BKC on another site- (Thanks Tommy- When you pass through Utah you are certainly welcome to drop by anytime) They have both electric and battery operated fans. I have two of them (1 D sized battery each) in a 17 Cubic foot cab. This does the job perfectly. I would guess you would only need one fan along with 1.5 to 2 lbs of beads. This (IMHO) would not only be more economical; but also more effective!

Beautiful humidor, by the way!!!:smiley20:
06-08-2006, 07:26 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by slcraiders

Shelby,

Why dump the 90- 100 bucks on the Oasis plus buy beads? Go the the heartfelt site. They have a calculation for beads needed per cubic foot of the humi along with a calc for measuring cubic feet. Get all beads. Distribute them evenly throughout the humi and pick up a glade fan to circulate the air. Discard the scented packages-- of course. I stole this idea from BKC on another site- (Thanks Tommy- When you pass through Utah you are certainly welcome to drop by anytime) They have both electric and battery operated fans. I have two of them (1 D sized battery each) in a 17 Cubic foot cab. This does the job perfectly. I would guess you would only need one fan along with 1.5 to 2 lbs of beads. This (IMHO) would not only be more economical; but also more effective!

Beautiful humidor, by the way!!!:smiley20:

I ordered the unit last month and they offered the xl plus with it for 79 bucks. Two pounds of beads would be about 60 bucks so it's not that more expensive. For the cost of a few good sticks I couldn't pass it up. I am putting it in the basement and want it to be as maintenance free as possible. I figured the Oasis should let me leave it alone for months at a time but then I started thinking about combining the two. (did I mention I'm basically lazy.)
06-08-2006, 07:37 PM
nhcigarfan

Ask BKCloud, he got the same one a couple of months ago.

Also I'd go with the oasis also and toss the beads on the top shelf. However I wouldn't add water to the beads. I would use them as a back stop in case you have a couple of really hot day's which would spike the RH.
06-08-2006, 07:47 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Ask BKCloud, he got the same one a couple of months ago.

Also I'd go with the oasis also and toss the beads on the top shelf. However I wouldn't add water to the beads. I would use them as a back stop in case you have a couple of really hot day's which would spike the RH.

Don't think that's gonna be a problem. The basement stays pretty much constant at 64-68 degrees and the humidity here in denver rerely gets over 60% or so inside even when it's raining. More often than not it's down around 15-25%. Wouldn't throwing dry beads in just eventually suck the water out of the oasis?
06-08-2006, 07:54 PM
slcraiders

I did not know they threw in the XL. For your cabinet, it should work great. Sorry, just my 2 cents on what worked for me. Either way, you will most likely be happy.

Once again, nice humi. I would like to get one of those some day when I am rich and famous as an end table for my "go- to" smokes.
06-08-2006, 09:21 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by slcraiders

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Once again, nice humi. I would like to get one of those some day when I am rich and famous as an end table for my "go- to" smokes.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to filling it up. I didn't realize how much one covets all the good stuff out there. Wonder how long it'll be before I need another one.:smiley4:
06-08-2006, 10:04 PM
NullSmurf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I ordered a bigger humidor last month and expect it to be delivered here pretty soon. I also got the oasis plus xl. When I set this up should I put a couple of bead tubes in it or do you think the oasis will hold things pretty steady? I'm thinking of 2 4oz tubes away from the oasis unit and the oasis set at 65%. I know it can't hurt, but is it overkill? Also, I've read where the oasis does a pretty good job of seasoning the humi pretty quickly but don't know if I believe it. Anybody heard anything different? The unit is the one from cheaphumidors.com that I've seen here before, so I know at least one is out there.

http://www.cheaphumidors.com/Merchan...ode=LGHUMIDORS

Thanks!

Mark

I'm gonna have to come over and have a look!

I have some experience with RH. Perhaps I can help.
06-08-2006, 10:22 PM
CoventryCat86

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Originally Posted by NullSmurf

I'm gonna have to come over and have a look!

I have some experience with RH. Perhaps I can help.

I have some experience with relative humidity too. In the summer when the RH is high, I get sweaty.:smiley22:
06-08-2006, 10:25 PM
NullSmurf

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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

I have some experience with relative humidity too. In the summer when the RH is high, I get sweaty.:smiley22:

We sweat here too. It simply evaporates before you feel it. :smiley16:
06-14-2006, 10:13 AM
Bkcloud114

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Originally Posted by Shelby07

Don't think that's gonna be a problem. The basement stays pretty much constant at 64-68 degrees and the humidity here in denver rerely gets over 60% or so inside even when it's raining. More often than not it's down around 15-25%. Wouldn't throwing dry beads in just eventually suck the water out of the oasis?

Shelby.... congrats on the new Humi.... did ya get it yet ?

The beads they are referring to are not "drying beads"... they are fom Viper at http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/Home.htm

If you contact Viper and give him the dimensions of the inside he will tell you exactly how many you need. The beads slowly release moisture to bring the RH up to the level you want. The longer you leave the door open, the longer it will take to bring up the RH. The Oasis on the other hand would probably bring the RH back up more quickly.

I absolutely love my new humidor.... be sure to check the hinges and make sure it closes properly. I heard of another BOTL who bought one and the hinges were not properly aligned.

Did ya get the glass door or wood door ??
06-14-2006, 02:18 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by Bkcloud114

Shelby.... congrats on the new Humi.... did ya get it yet ?

The beads they are referring to are not "drying beads"... they are fom Viper at http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/Home.htm

If you contact Viper and give him the dimensions of the inside he will tell you exactly how many you need. The beads slowly release moisture to bring the RH up to the level you want. The longer you leave the door open, the longer it will take to bring up the RH. The Oasis on the other hand would probably bring the RH back up more quickly.

I absolutely love my new humidor.... be sure to check the hinges and make sure it closes properly. I heard of another BOTL who bought one and the hinges were not properly aligned.

Did ya get the glass door or wood door ??

I haven't received it yet. It's supposed to be here the end of the month. I decided to go with the wood door just to keep the inside dark. I have ordered the 65% heartfelt beads (2 lbs) they should be here tomorow. I figure if I set the Oasis at 65% and place beads in several areas it will not only hold the humidity even, but should allow for more time before having to add distilled water. I'm looking forward to getting it. I've got my 2 desktops stuffed now with more on the way, which is why I put the rush on the beads. I'm trying to get a coolador ready temporarily.

Once it gets here I'm either gonna have a lot of fun or break the bank trying to fill it!
06-14-2006, 02:37 PM
SmokinDVM

Hey, I ordered the exact same humidor about 2 weeks ago. Can't wait for it to get here.
I didn't get the oasis, just some more beads.
I'm already breaking the bank in anticipation of delivery.:smiley40:
06-14-2006, 07:59 PM
Desert Rat

3 members buying this humidor-I'm going nuts. I gotta get me one of these!

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06-26-2006, 12:57 AM
Coach

I to bought a cabinet from Cheaphumidors.com. What I found was that the cigar oasis did a good job of seasoning the cabinet, but they claim that the reservoir will last months, it lasted only days early on. Also, once I started to fill the cabinet up, the fan in the oasis, just didn't circulate the air well enough. The humidity levels at the top were 10% off from the bottom. (I had the oasis at the bottom.) The oasis would read the RH and shut off, before the air had circulated to the top shelf.

I bought some wet floral foam and those tupperware dishes made for sticks of butter, drilled holes in the lids and placed one on each shelf. Then I went to radio shack and bought a CPU cooling fan (3") and placed it on the top shelf facing toward the front. Now, I have the exact RH throughout the cabinet, the oasis does last a month or so now, and I only have to check the foam about every other week.

My problem is that when I open the door, all the dry air rushes in and the humidity drops RAPIDLY and the oasis kicks on for about 20 minutes to "right the ship". Some time sit will take an hour to get back to 68%.

I hope something here helps.
06-26-2006, 08:38 AM
Shelby07

Thanks Coach. I kind of figured as much. I've got 2 lbs of beads waiting to go in and will probably stick another fan in there. Did you get the same model or was it something different. Mine's supposed to show up Thursday. Also, how full is your cabinet?
06-27-2006, 02:28 PM
Sapper0001

Hey, nice humi. Wish I had enough cigars to fill a bad boy like that.

Sapper0001
US, Army(retired)
06-27-2006, 05:14 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by Sapper0001

Hey, nice humi. Wish I had enough cigars to fill a bad boy like that.

Sapper0001
US, Army(retired)

Me too :smiley1:
06-28-2006, 08:30 PM
SmokinDVM

Hey Shelby07,

Did your humidor show up yet? Mine did today. Unfortunately it was damaged. Looks like UPS decided to drop it off the truck, and it smashed in one corner of the top.
Did you get the impression that this humidor was solid wood construction? I thought from the description that it was, but it looks like MDF under a thin veneer. I'm going to call in the morning and get to the bottom of this.
06-28-2006, 10:45 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

Hey Shelby07,

Did your humidor show up yet? Mine did today. Unfortunately it was damaged. Looks like UPS decided to drop it off the truck, and it smashed in one corner of the top.
Did you get the impression that this humidor was solid wood construction? I thought from the description that it was, but it looks like MDF under a thin veneer. I'm going to call in the morning and get to the bottom of this.

My humidor is shipped and scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Looking at the picture, I figured it might have had a veneer finish. It did say it was spanish cedar lined. I guess for what I paid for it I wasn't really expecting solid wood either. Can't even buy an end table for that. I'll look it over closely.
06-29-2006, 02:03 AM
SmokinDVM

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Originally Posted by Shelby07

My humidor is shipped and scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Looking at the picture, I figured it might have had a veneer finish. It did say it was spanish cedar lined. I guess for what I paid for it I wasn't really expecting solid wood either. Can't even buy an end table for that. I'll look it over closely.

I wasn't expecting it to be solid mahogany, but I was expecting solid wood with a mahogany finish as per item description...

Quote:

Step back and take a look at one of the most beautiful humidors made. Our cabinet humidor features the best hardware, the most intricate details, and enough room for tons of cigars.

This humidor is really amazing. The crotched mahagony is just breathtaking. Plus it features solid wood construction, a drawer on metal guides for more storage, interior electrical outlet, shelves, spanish cedar lining. What more could you ask for.

I don't know, I'm mostly pissed about the damage, but the description isn't accurate either. I mean MDF is not solid wood, no matter how you dress it up.
06-29-2006, 09:07 AM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

I wasn't expecting it to be solid mahogany, but I was expecting solid wood with a mahogany finish as per item description...

I don't know, I'm mostly pissed about the damage, but the description isn't accurate either. I mean MDF is not solid wood, no matter how you dress it up.

You're right. It's been so long since I read the description I had forgotten. Do you plan on keeping it? If you are going to call him today please let me know what he says. Thanks, and I'm really sorry your humi got crunched. We waited a long time for them.

Mark
06-29-2006, 03:21 PM
SmokinDVM

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Originally Posted by Shelby07

You're right. It's been so long since I read the description I had forgotten. Do you plan on keeping it? If you are going to call him today please let me know what he says. Thanks, and I'm really sorry your humi got crunched. We waited a long time for them.

Mark

He said that they didn't claim "solid wood", but "solid wood construction". I asked for a refund, which he offered without hesitation, mostly due to the misleading ad.

I'll keep you posted on the ease/difficulty of the rest of the process.

Now I have to start searching for a suitable replacement.
06-29-2006, 03:31 PM
Shelby07

Well, the humi came today. It appears to be no worse for the shipping. The driver rang the door, dropped off the Oasis XL Plus and started driving away. Had to chase him down the street. When I told him there was another box he said "Yeah, I couldn't find it." It was in the back of the truck. He was just too damn lazy to look for it.

The door was not secured and it took some finagling to get it on so it sealed tightly. I don't like the fact that the top drawer does not secure or lock and can easily be slid open. Gotta figure out what to do about that. But more importantly, it stinks. Smells like a newly finished piece of furniture when I stick my head inside of it - more so than outside. Is this normal for a new humi? Will a couple of boxes of Arm & Hammer take care of this?

It is a fairly nice looking box, but it is what it is, a $375 1200 count humidor. Guess I didn't expect much more.
06-29-2006, 04:44 PM
Shelby07

Well, after finding the right search words (who would hace thought of "smelly humidor") I found some information.

http://www.cigarsmokers.com/showthre...t=odor+humidor

I'm not going to put bailey's in it, but I do have 3 boxes of Baking Soda inside. We'll see what happens. I need to season the box anyway, so hopefully the smell will be gone by then.

BPP - I also found a post about beetles not thriving until the temp hits 85+ for extenede periods. It appears that I'll be ok, but I usually get the house down to about 76-77 degrees. Does the humi stay about the same temperature as the ambient? (Sounds like an obvious "yes" but ya never know.)
06-30-2006, 12:49 PM
Shelby07

I've got it put together and set up. The odor is just about gone thanks to 3 boxes of baking soda and multiple wipings with lots of sterile sponges. I just kept wiping with sterile sponges and distilled water until there was no more residue on the sponge. I put the Oasis XL Plus and 2 pounds of beads in last night. I put the beads in 2 long narrow plastic utensil trays that I got at target. The Oasis is on the bottom shelf in the back, and the two trays are on the middle and top shelf on either side if the unit. I woke up to a perfect 65% humidity level.

After getting over the disappointment of having to adjust the doors and DVM's damaged shipment (yeah, I WAS disappointed about that) I think this will turn out to be a pretty good little box for the price. It looks good, the seals around the door seem to have expanded a bit. Looking through the hole in the back for the power receptacle I cant see any light coming through the door and the seals aound the door seems to be pretty tight. I think for a little over 400 bucks it's well worth it.
07-04-2006, 11:44 AM
Coach

Well Shelby, I am glad it is working out for you. I was on vacation and did not respond to your last question. The box I got was the "Cigar Tower". I didn't have any odor problems, but seasoning the thing seemed to take forever. That is why I ended up with the home made humidifiers. (I am difinetly going to try the beads).

I did have some problems too though with delivery. The guy would not unload the thing until I signed and the website specifically said "Dont sign until you have inspected the box". Fortunetly, there was no real damage like some mentioned earlier. I small scratch across the front was about all. The thing that got me was the hygrometer (which is very large and impossible to find a replacement for) was the cheapest piece of plastic cr@p after the website advertised a "large glass hygrometer". I called and they did offer to refund my money, but it wasn't a big enough deal to send it back over, it just bothered me.

Any way, I'm glad yours is working out.
07-04-2006, 12:39 PM
SmokinDVM

I just ordered a replacement for the damaged humi.

It was the Craftsman, 3rd one down the page.

It's very similar to the damaged one, but the description never tries to mislead you into believing it's solid wood. I really hope this one makes it in one piece, as I'm out of coolerdoor space, and my 4 other humis are full.
07-04-2006, 02:32 PM
Shelby07

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Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

I just ordered a replacement for the damaged humi.

It was the Craftsman, 3rd one down the page.

It's very similar to the damaged one, but the description never tries to mislead you into believing it's solid wood. I really hope this one makes it in one piece, as I'm out of coolerdoor space, and my 4 other humis are full.

Nice unit. Actually the interior looks identical to the one I got. I did see it but the other fits in better with the existing furniture. Just be ready to go through a couple of gallons of distilled water and lots of sterile sponges. There was quite a bit of residue inside.

Did they offer the oasis? I got two of the longest skinniest utensil trays that I could find and put a pound of 65% beads in each. Seems to be doing a perfect job. The only time I hear the oasis go on is when I open the cabinet and it shuts off almost immediately. The long skinny trays don't take up much room at all.
07-05-2006, 01:47 AM
SmokinDVM

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Originally Posted by Shelby07

Nice unit. Actually the interior looks identical to the one I got. I did see it but the other fits in better with the existing furniture. Just be ready to go through a couple of gallons of distilled water and lots of sterile sponges. There was quite a bit of residue inside.

Did they offer the oasis? I got two of the longest skinniest utensil trays that I could find and put a pound of 65% beads in each. Seems to be doing a perfect job. The only time I hear the oasis go on is when I open the cabinet and it shuts off almost immediately. The long skinny trays don't take up much room at all.

Yep, it looks like it's pretty much the same unit with a different veneer. It should go nicely with the new Barcalounger.
I'm going to need to order another pound of beads too. I didn't get the Oasis, but will set up a small fan to help circulation and, hopefully, that will be enough.

It's a good thing distilled water is cheap.

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