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I went online to Askmen.com and found out about ten countries which you can almost buy your self a duel citizenship. Belize appears to be the easiest among them, with $1000 deposit if you are over 45 and a non-Belize income of $24K. So for all you fellow turkey stuffed Americans, this is like a gravy train to Cuba! And a nice retirement place!
Jon, I have a cousin who just moved to Belize. She loves it there.
Her & her daughter opened a Restaurant / Internet Cafe there and doing very well.
I'm seriously thinking of retiring to either Central America or the Carribean, so that is good to hear. Want a nice quiet place where I can run a small business, smoke, drink and relax in my silver years.
I've often times thought about retiring to Costa Rica. Only 38 years and 2 months away!Quote:
Originally Posted by cigar no baka
Hmm, might be the making of the next vacation destination. Do you, by chance, know anyone in Puerto Rico?Quote:
Originally Posted by Newfie
Dual citizenship will not alter the potential impact to a US citizen with regards to the Cuban embargo.
Also, the State Department may require you to forfeit your US citizenship if you choose to become a citizen of another country. It's not the same as if you parent was a citizen or something.
If you are an American, you can go to Cuba by just flying out of either Canada or Mexico. Cuba doesn't stamp passports, they give you a seperate piece of paper just for this reason, so you won't have trouble getting back to U.S.A. Tons of Americans vacation in Cuba every year... Both times I have gone I have meet a couple Americans. Just fly down to Mexico(or Canada) and book a flight from there.... Getting duel citizenship seems like alot of work just to go when a $500 plane ride will do you just fine:smiley36:
Well, when I was in San Juan Puerto Rico for 5 hours on Monday, January 14, 2002, I did meet a bartender named Juan. Does that do you any good??:smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
Man, no last name? I'm going to have a heck of a time trying to find a bartender named Juan down there. Guess all my time will be spent buying Hurricane's instead of laying on the beach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newfie
Hmm..., I can really fly down to Cuba? That is awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
Legally...no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
Drew's right. Legally, no. But it happens all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by drew_goring
I hear that about 70% of the passengers flying to Cuba out of Windsor Ontario are Americans.
Well, legally- Damn.
Well, it is only against the law if you get caught!:smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
It's near impossible to get caught.... Just don't bring back any cuban cigars or rum.... They don't stamp your passport. And cuba doesn't mind americans. It's only the Americans that mind....
So if i dont bring anything back, customs won't know. I guess i cannot use a credit card down there either, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
I believe if you get American money changed into CUC, then you are charged a 10% surcharge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
Wouldn't it be mostly cash only down there anyways?
Oh ya, that's another thing, they accept Visa and MC as long as it's not from an American bank. I don't know how many times I was asked that, "Is the credit card from an american bank?", I'd tell them no it's from a Canadian bank, then no problem. So ya, as a U.S. citizen you'd be spending cash for sure.... I think Drew is right, it'd be cheaper to bring Canadian currency down there if you can. Less of a surcharge.
Well, if i got duel citizenship with say Belize, and the US didn't require me to 'cancel' my US citizenship, then I could fly back to Belize and then to the US with my Belize passport under the guise of being a Belizean. So assuming that the US is cool with 'sharing the love' I could go to Cuba as a Belize resident? I bet US rules would still somehow apply, bummer.:smiley6:
As I understand it, you can go to Cuba, but the FBI still flags your file for going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
How will the FBI flag you if they don't know you went?
It doesn't matter what passport you use, Cuba doesn't stamp it. Even as a Canadian, if Cuba stamped my passport, then I would have mucho problems getting into America next time.
Really? US customs would give you a hard time? Geeze. So when you went last, they didn't stamp your passport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
Well, Unless you can book your flight under an alias.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
Ahh!Quote:
Originally Posted by cigargirl
The FBI isn't going to go through the flight records of another country. You are super paranoid Cigargirl.... Tons of Americans travel to Cuba every day...
No, they don't stamp anyone's passport, not even mine.
Hmmm, stop giving me evil ideas. I may have catch a ride up to Canada.
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Originally Posted by WOXOF
It IS that easy....
I can jumpseat on most airlines. I've never tried to jumpseat outside of the U.S. though. I wonder if I could pull this off for free? I may have to hitch a ride up to Toronto and give it a shot.
Are you a pilot? Though I doubt it woudl work since most of the airlines that fly into cuba cannot fly into the US thus they are tiny brands like Sun Wing air.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOXOF
Cuban authorities do not stamp passports, they stamp a sheet of paper they staple into your passport. US credit cards do not work, and USD are at a 10% discredit. You need to change USD into CanD before heading down there. They love americans down there and I cannot understand why there is a trade embargo, since after the missle crisis and before Kennedy's assassination he was already negotiating a lift of it.
Do you mean discount? or does one really get 90% on their dollar?:smiley21:Quote:
Originally Posted by jiaguy
Nope, the basically "tax" you 10% for using American dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan
No I'm not a pilot, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once. Fortunately, I get a lot of the same interline benefits as pilots. I'll have to check with some pilot buddies that I'm sure have some tips. I know Air Canada flies down there, that's the only one I've checked so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiaguy
my guess is......if you get stranded down in cuba...ie thrown in jail the USA will not help to get you set free. You will be at the mercy of their court systems. Also, if you get sick, get you arm lopped off, or whatever american health insurance will not cover any future or past illness or bills. To me it isnt worth it. They will eventually lift the embargo and it will be the new Las Vegas. The easiest way to get to cuba is to become a terrorist threat. Then you can join club gitmo!
And I'm going to stick up for tampa, I bet the government knows who goes down there.