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All I got out of it in one soundbite was her saying she doesn't use racist, anti-semitic, bigoted words. And in the other soundbite, she states that people have accused the Clintons of doing all kinds of shitty things (murder, drug running) and thinks it is people who are ideologically opposed to her husband's policies.
I don't keep up on Hillary too much, but was there supposed to be a lie in there somewhere? Did I play the game wrong?
You didn't listen very well then, she said "these are false allegations" which is the "lie.":smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
I think I listened fine.
However, like I said, I don't follow Hillary and her nonsense too closely...care to elucidate? Or should I just assume?
It's pretty self-explanatory, no need to "eludicate.":smiley24:Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
Personally I hope she loses, I'd hate to see a Democrat in office.
I guess I still don't get it...she says they're false allegations, you say they're not false allegations...did she ever get caught saying racist or derogatory things? Has she ever been caught doing the things she says people have accused her of?
I'm not trying to pick a fight; I'm not a Hillary fan; I'm just curious to what the point of the whole game is. (the slapping deal is kinda funny though)
I am not saying anything so I don't know where you'e getting that from. She "got caught" so to speak with her shady futures trading in the cattle market for starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
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Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
When I wrote "you say they're not false allegations" I did so because you made the post and titled it "Listen to Hillary Lie!!" so when she says they're "false," and you say she's lying, then shouldn't I assume you're the one trying to say something?Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
As far as the whole cattle deal, I vaguely remember her name being linked to cattle (insert joke here) but don't remember what it was about. I'll have to look it up. She never mentioned anything about it in the soundbite.
Well, with the Republicans backing Bush with his :Quote:
Personally I hope she loses, I'd hate to see a Democrat in office.
lieing about WMD's to invade a country who didn't attack us.
Pulling troops away from the search for Bin Laden (who DID attack us)
Running up an insane amount of debt that will eventually crush this country's economy.
Violating the constitution by authorizing wiretaps without warrants and canceling the writ of Habeas Corpus.
Taking actions that make Muslim factions hate us even more while telling us that "America is safer".
Proposing a Constitutional Amendment that makes it legal for one section of society (heterosexuals) to marry while denying that same right to another section of society (homosexuals) therefore violating the equal protection under the law statute of the 14th amendment
and on and on and on . . .
I can't support a Republican party who has supported such a vile human being as GW Bush.
HOWEVER:
The Bush's (Jr. and Sr.) have been in power for 12 years (once W's term is over) and Clinton was in for 8 years. That's 20 years. If Hillary is elected and then serves 2 terms that will be 28 years where this country will have been run by only 2 families. That's over 10% of the entire life of the USA where only 2 families have controlled the white house. I don't think that's good for America at all.
I'd really like to see the Dems give us another qualified candidate.
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Originally Posted by Dru Lee Parsec
Are all Democrats pro-choice and pro-homosexual marriage?
That's a silly thing to say.
Are all Republicans pro-life and anti-homosexual marriage?
I don't think so....Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
Well, there ya go...not all Dem's agree about everything, just as not all Republicans agree about everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideWinder
Sidewinder is Republican; I'm a Democrat....and we actually have some of the same viewpoints (gasp).
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Originally Posted by SideWinder
A couple of "inbreads" is what you two guys are.Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
I'm a reuben on marble rye and Hefty is a turkey on wheat...Quote:
Originally Posted by slcraiders
Well said, brother! I prefer to THINK about the issues, rather than fall into a 'party line' on anything in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by heftysmokes
Exactly why I don't ally myself with ANY party. I think one of the main factors as to why nothing ever gets accomplished on capitol hill is that those that represent the people are really representing their constituents, and whatever view or agenda they are pushing at current.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideWinder
What was once a method for the people to self-govern has turned into the senior class president election. The captain of the football team vs. the president of the chess club... the football team will vote for their guy, as the fans will, because he's "our guy" and same for the chess folks... except they'll get votes from people that may not play chess, but don't like football either. The views of either candidate are rendered a moot point as it's come down to a popularity contest, and nothing more.
Show me a candidate that cares about the people, and they have my vote, regardless of party.
Disclaimer: I am not a poli-sci major and the only grasp of the "system" I have is what I've found out during my own research. I claim to be no wiser than anyone else here, and the commentary found above is based on my own personal opinions and nothing more.
she is a lying sob and I hope she has an allergice reaction to her fake ass hair color (thats a lie right there) and catches crabs and ghonorhea from a texaco gas station. Then I hope the IRS nails her to the wall.
I am really a nice sensible guy......I like Evan Bayh!
go mighty elephants! GO COlts!
btw
I am a republican and I believe that if a man and a man (that are dating eachother) decide to have an abortion I am for it.Quote:
Are all Democrats pro-choice and pro-homosexual marriage?
you have to give and take.......a compromise if you will
She is a nasty bitch .
I know the topic of this thread has been a bit all over the place, but I thought I'd throw this in in a response to a previous (rhetorical?) question.
The PA senators are an interesting mix because the Republican (Arlen Spector) is pro choice, and the democrat (Bob Casey) is pro life.
I always though that was pretty interesting and I'm not sure why it hasn't gotten much press.
That is interesting.
I'll probably vote dem for prez, based on today, but I'm not sure who. Hillary is low on my list.
I actually meant presidential candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by indysmoker
cls read closer.....
a man and a man (that date not married).....if they choose to have an abortion then it is okay.
it was more of a joke...althought I am republican and am not totally against abortion.
Yet another reason why she cannot be trusted:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...mo_code=2CAA-1
Politicians in general can't be trusted to always represent their final goals and ambitions, regardless of political alignment. They speak to the concerns of the audience they are addressing, Republicans and Democrats alike. Our job, as voters, is to sort through all of the inevitable political pandering and hype and make the best choice we can make. Politicians in general do and say what they have to do to promote their agenda, even it means double talk and back pedalling. Maybe not all, but most. Besides, issues change over time and as we are presented with more information, our views should mature. Politicans are no different. They can change their mind just like the rest of us. A view someone held two or three years ago could have legitimately changed based on new information. I'm a Republican and I'm not a fan of Hillary, but she's no worse than any other politician from either side of the aisle.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
nancy pelosi did ban cigar smoking from outside the house chamber room. That was a travesty. Cigars as I know it are still allowed in the oval office.