Just curious.
Just curious.
damn, the one i voted for isnt winning
You joined a few weeks ago, and have a whopping 26 posts under your belt here, and you're already "sick" of seeing CC and SFG going at it??? Interesting....
Your avatar suggests otherwise....
I happen to find it very amusing......... and I think it's gonna get even more amusing now.......
hey ox..... A little word of advice, don't get mixed up in the middle of these two........ it has nothing to do with you...... just my recommendation to you.
Big balls Ox:smiley20: I like :smiley14: It took me forever to decide what to vote:smiley23: :smiley36:
LOL ggiese :smiley17:
As the admin I'm going to refrain from voting on this one.. but damn this is some pretty funny shit.
I think people really need to take these kinds of situations a little more lightly. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but some of these posts are just hilarious.
I think nobody is surprised where my vote is going... :smiley3:
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Originally Posted by hex1848
ox and anyone else who voted for the first choice, if you don't like him, just put him on ignore and you won't even see his posts. its that simple. so there's some confrontation going on....that's life. if it bothers you so much, you shouldn't be involving yourself in it like you have now done. some people really need to stop being so sensitive.
and i think this pole belongs in the general discussion forum because it has absolutely nothing to do with cigars.
At least you're not my bud from another board and have an obvious bias-one choice of the poll is highly flawed in that regard. :smiley36: :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
Well so far the poll is speaking for itself. I dont know CC or Scotty at all. But from what I can tell they have some AWESOME extensive knowledge about cigars. I mean I just cant ignore CC or I might miss out on some new review or some sweet humidor tip. But why are we all here? WE ARE ALL BOTL!!!!! No skin color, religon or political views can change that. Shit, for all I know SFG75 may be the worlds worst passer or box splitter. But he loves cigars, He is here so im gonna except him no matter what kind of grudge may be held against him about some stupid bullshit from another site. And from what I can see, he has done nothing wrong to screw anybody here. Hell, even polls like this can cause rifts.And Im the dumbfuck who started it just trying to prove a point. Right now it seems like the Sharks vs. the Jets from West Side Story. Cmon, when is this going to be cigarsmokers.com????? Right now its www.ccversusscotty.net
This is a community. We all have a say as to what we feel should be going on here. It has nothing to do with being "sensitive". Why is Coventry afforded the right to what amounts to abusive bahavior IN MY OPINION and if others decide to post a complaint it's "sensitivity"? As far as "some confrontation"...90% of Coventry's posts are confrontation since the day he joined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
I have been a member of this group for a long time and I have EVERY right to voice my opinion on this. If anyone doesn't like that they can just put ME on ignore.
I agree this poll belongs in G.D. A simple mistake on ox's part I'm sure.
exactly right. you're entitled to you opinion. i'm entitled to mine. and CC is entitled to his. i don't think anyone should be banned or be forced to calm down or change their attitude or anything like that. if someone doesn't like his post, don't read it or jump in and become a part of it. but some think its ok for them to attack CC's way of doing things, but he's not supposed to speak his mind about SFG. that's not fair. everyone that is taking part in the anti-CC is just as disruptive as they say he is. but i don't think there anything wrong with the way CC posts. But that’s just my opinion. But also, it doesn’t really matter what any of us think other than hex. His opinion is the only one that mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
LOL, typical whining baby :smiley36: "Highly flawed" Well, you are an expert in that regard because while you give yourself the title of "F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S" there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
Oh and ax, when you make post like this:
you make yourself look stupid because that is a ridiculous exaggeration. Unfortunate for you because had you been more realistic, you wouldn't look like such an ass.Quote:
Poll how many of you are tired of seeing CC blast SGF75 on every post
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Originally Posted by labmonkey
Once again, you'd do yourself a big favor labmoney if you didn't post lies or exaggerations.
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Originally Posted by Drake
Excellent point, all are free to agree and disagree. At the same time, no one is following cc around from thread to thread and harassing him. Though in all fairness, that's what ignore is for. I personally, enjoy cigars and like to talk about them with others. I for one, plan on having an excellent summer. Today is my last day at work and I'm going to pick up my boys, take them to the park, and then have a relaxing cigar at home afterwards. Folks can argue about name brands, brand names, wrappers, and other miniscule matters all they want. I will use the ignore feature and try to enjoy myself here as best I can.
You make some pretty good points ox. But I would offer that how one has conducted himself on other sites IS INDEED relevant here. You must have missed my example in another thread but I'll post a similar one here again for you to think about:Quote:
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A 3o year old man lives in a small town in Nebraska and commits a serious felony, lets say he sexually abused a 9 year old boy. He gets convicted for his crimes but manages to avoid jail time instead he receives a ten year suspended sentence. He decided to "start over" by moving to another state and stating a new life. He make some new friends and evryone thinks he's a "really good guy" Well one day, someone in the new town discovers his past conviction for child molestation and lets people know what this person did. He's quite vocal about it, standing in front of the local post office with a placard that says " XXXXX is a convicted child molseter!!" Who's wrong here, the child molester or the person who told you about it? Many states these day have Sex Offender Registrys, maybe we should have something similar for people like Scotty who cause huge disruptions and bully and abuse people on other cigar boards yet come to a new site and want a fresh start. Sorry but his actions and misdeeds on other sites are completly relevant here and you should be appreciative of the efforts of me and others who bring this to your attention.
Hey, I'm not some heartless bastard who just because someone makes one little mistake I think they should pay for the rest of their lives but my problem with ole Scotty boy is he absolutely refuses to apologize or admit he was wrong. He's done so much damage to his reputation, I don't know how many of the people he's pissed off over on the other sites will ever forgive him but he makes virtually no effort to correct his past sins.
Yep, I came here and blasted Oblik because he used to like to brag on LTC about his "source" for Cuban cigars and when he was a moderator, he would delete people's posts and bully them. He was instrumental over on LTC in getting a coupld of my friends "banned" from that site (as was Scotty). I found this behavior to be very offensive and I called him out on it. He was stubborn at first but finally admitted his cigars were fake and he finally made efforts to make up for his wrongs. I give him a great deal of credit for that and has anyone seen me saying ANYTHING bad about Oblik since he cleaned up his act?
LMAO Scotty that is just precious, poor baby, awwwwwww do you think you're being harassed?!! Again, you reap what you sow and secondly, you certainlly are not innocent of following me around throwing gasoline on the fire with your double talk and pigheaded BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
Once again, I love it when you prove my point with your idiotic posts!! Please keep it up :smiley2:
Speaking his mind is one thing but personal attacks and namecalling is quite another. Coventry has appointed himself as the main Character Witness here at cigarsmokers and it seems that as new members join HE decides wether or not they are worthy members based on HIS experience with them on other boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
Now I am not saying that if he has had a bad experience with someone he should not make it known...and I have made that clear before. But after he does make this known he proceeds to harass, namecall, and generally try his best to tear the member in question down in as many posts as possible, regardless of the content or context. This is above and beyond what is necessary, and is the behavior that is ONCE AGAIN called into question.
We had a member join recently who has yet to even post a SINGLE MESSAGE, and Coventry has already torn him down in several posts. :smiley24: (Purobrat)
And no I don't care what the reason behind it is....in my eyes it is uncalled for.
And I feel that taking part in this thread and asking for this kind of abusive behavior to STOP cannot be compared as being "just as disruptive"....I think the main gist of these attempts is for the disruptive behavior to CEASE!
I am not attacking Coventry as a person, I am saying that his behavior as a member on this board is unacceptable in my opinion. He is a knowledgable BOTL, and I respect him for that. Humorous jibes and joking is one thing, but his comments after stating the initial facts in these cases we are speaking of are out of spite, anger, and based on grudges.
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Originally Posted by SFG75
Oh, that's funny, SFG ... Labmonkey IS on the Island... So is Roham...
that has nothing to do with all of this for me....george, you know I've felt this way since long before scott ever came here, and I never joined LTC until after it crashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
Labmoney, whether or not PuroBrat has made a post or not is completely irrelevant to the fact that he like Scotty, has made his onw bed on other sites and many people think very little of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
The part of your post that I marked in bold is absoultely ridiculous on your part and you too are only making yourself look foolish when you post stupidity like that. You whine about me making "attacks" yet you IN THE SAME POST attack me. I won't cry about it but you like Scotty only reap what you sow and my opinion of you is only going further and further down the toilet. I see you're already acting like a jerkoff on the Island of the Misfit Toys. Come to think of it, that may just be the place for you :smiley2:
Again, you whine about "unacceptable behavior" then turn around and engage in it yourself. This is not the first time you've done this. You really need to look at how you behave and interact on boards like this because trust me, you're not doing yourself any favors when you post nonsense like this.
Now that isn't true!!. Look at cc's calm and composed responses to me!.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
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You are so full of shit it isn't even funny.
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You are such an asshole.......
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you are one of the biggest pieces of trash to ever post on an internet BB.
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Scotty, you are nothing more than a piece of shit
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you act like your arrogant asshole self
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"Case closed" LMFAO no, no assholeboy,
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you only prove my case to everyone else here that you are nothing but a complete asshole
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I know you well enough to say with certainty that you are a useless POS
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you are only proving to everyone here to be the true asshole that I maintain you are
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I'm not switching the topic you asshole
Do you retract your argument now labmonkey? :smiley23:Quote:
Can everyone see why this asshole was a complete failure as a moderator
At first, I did take offense to this stuff, but now I can't help but laughing my ass off.
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Hex is right, the comedic value is more than worth it.
Anyone doubt that Bill thinks I'm an asshole?
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i see your point. i just disagree. CC doesn't have to go as far as he does to 'knock down' posters; but he does. if you thinks he think of himself as our official character witness; maybe he does. but each of us can do what we want with the information he gives us. we can take all of it to heart, or we can form our own opinions. no one has to agree with him. or even read his post. if you find his knowledge valuable, take it. if you don't, ignore him. if you find half of it valuable and not the other half, then its up to you to pick through it. he is what he is. he shouldn't have to modify the half of his personality some find offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by labmonkey
I think it is common courtesty and respect to act one way, not the other. It is not an altering of personality. Especially when half the board has voiced their dislike of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
Labmonkey - you must have missed this post over in the Torano thread... Please let me quote it for you...
My original post:
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I'm confused, SFG - which cigar were you reviewing??? Also, you might want to consider that maybe you got a lot of "that's nice" views, without any response.
But CC makes a great point - you probably should be a little more specific in your description in that you knew (or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN - right jaewing) that there would be confusion, considering the lines are so closely linked (the bands and the viotlas are nearly identical)...
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Yes George, you are ultimately an unbiased source in this dispute. No, I shouldn't have been more specific. Everyone knew what I was talking about and no one said they thought I was talking about the silver. There is no confusion here, nor is anyone trying to solve it genuinely. This is just one more little dig aimed at me on the part of someone else purely for the sake of it. If anyone doubts that, they haven't been paying attention to this board for very long.
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Scotty - Get off your high horse, there Tonto... I think you're WAY out of line when you jumped on me for being in this thread because I'm backing up my fellow CP and CS friend CC. You, sir, ARE WRONG - PERIOD...
Puff did a review of a Torano 1959 Robusto... You'll never guess how he entitled the thread...
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Carlos Torano Exodus 1959 Toro Goldline
I would have titled it Gold or Silver line...
My association with any other member of this or any other board does not change my opinion - you should have identified it as gold or silver - PERIOD.
Just eat your crow and move on... Jeeeezzzzzz.....
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Your relationship to cc does matter, it proves that you are biased and that your opinion is heavily swayed by your association with him. You'd be saying the same thing if PB and Zac came over here and had my back in this argument. You are arguing against people who have no clue about me and who have independently made up their own minds on this thread. They haven't associated with me on other boards, thus, they are truly independent people in this dispute. I suppose you and bk could go ahead and vote in this one-but it would really not be an accurate depiction of how things truly are. For as you are members here, you are not unbiased members here.
That wasn't posted because I was "backing up" CC - it was posted because I posted my opinion concerning the gold vs. silver label issue, and Scotty got medeival on me because I DARED to disagree with his ego (not his idea, his insistance he was NOT WRONG).Quote:
Well, now this is interesting...
I truly WAS on the fence about who you were, Scotty... I saw the stuff going on over at CP - hardly knew you and was wondering what was going on. You seemed to be a pretty stand up guy to me - until I started seeing your bi-polar posts... Especially when you went after Rod - which is kinda like going after Hex... Rod is a pretty tolerant and laid-back site admin. I said, "Wow! What the heck was THAT!!!" Then you run to the Island - "I'll straghten this place out" - Shut down decent BOTL's - create an atmosphere of suspicion - Ban good people - issue "strikes" like some kind of home plate umpire... and build the Iron Curtain...
Then you get medieval on me with your latest post.... Trying to draw lines and make this a forum wide - choose sides kind of thread... Seems you have a bit of an anger management (and ego) problem, there - Scotty... What's next - you gonna try and become a Mod and start shutting things down here??? After all, there are "Bad" people here (like CC)
I know and chat with CC here and on other boards, true. I know and chat with others as well. I guess that makes me bad, doesn't it. BK is a nice person - I enjoy chatting with him - You would too if you knew him for who he was, not who you "think" he is - what did BK to incur your wrath. Where is the conspiracy, Scotty. Is BK another Leebo and CC robot, like me??? You gonna bring PB and Zac over to "back you up"? What the heck do you think this is - the wild, wild west??? Oh, yeah - Tombstone, AZ - right, "Sheriff" Scotty??? Where's your Tombstone avatar now...
Look at yourself in the mirror... Arguing with CC over a silver vs. gold label? Becoming venomous in your posts over telling us you didn't make a mistake about not telling us it was a gold or a silver label... What does it truly matter? How about a and call it a day
Boy, if this doesn't show your true colors, I don't know what does...
Maybe I'm crazy here, but if it were you LabMonkey, or Roham, or CC even, I would have thought that if someone were confused about whether it was a gold or silver label, and members are expressing that confusion - your simple solution would have been to say "I'm sorry - I'll make that clearer in the future" and the thread it OVER. Not Scotty. This is the EXACT reason he ruffled feathers and was eventually banned at CigarPass. And he repeats his behavior here. That's EXACTLY CC's point...
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Originally Posted by ggiese
That's unfair. The ONLY reason I joined LTC is because I read on this board that CC is banned from posting there. Seemed like a good place to me :smiley20:
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Originally Posted by Roham
Good for you - enjoy yourself... It's the right place for you!!! :smiley20:
i'm there, too. but for no particular reason other than to talk about cigars and whatever else might be brought up. its a bit slow there. hardly anyone posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
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Originally Posted by Drake
It's not as good of a board as here. Maybe it is the lack of CC?? :smiley36:
I certainly don't go there to discuss CC. Just cigar's and other such stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake
Drakes analysis of the situation is EXACTLY right. If you don't like what ANYONE is saying on this board, you have an ignore button if it bothers you so much. You clearly don't understand the implications of your thought process. "Supress the ideas and it will be a nice place." Think again... Supress the ideas and it will build resentment - people will chose not to participate and to move on. I truly believe that debate sparks interest. Obviously we can't debate all the time, but debate is ESSENTIAL for a healthy discussion board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
As you point out - you can go to the Island and participate over there. That's a great place for your type, Roham. I'm sure you will enjoy the fact that there is no fighting. But, let me forewarn you, don't disagree with any of the senior members, the mods or the admin over there - no matter how trivial, or you'll end up being banned as well. If you're willing to walk into the situation knowing that, enjoy your utopia...
I didn't see you registering or participating at CP? Was there a specific reason for that? Was it maybe because there is open debate allowed there as well?
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Originally Posted by Roham
LMAO, c'mon roham where can you get free entertainment like this huh? :smiley36:
Actually I don't think I'm banned over at LTC. I signed up as a member apparently shortly after they went back to a public board after their private site blew up. I never received my confirmation email, must have been a computer glitch or something :smiley3:
That's okay though, I wouldn't want to post over there anyway even though the conspiracy theory nutballs like PuroMooch and Scotty swear up and down that four or five members over there are me posting under another screen name. :smiley36:
you sly dog, youQuote:
Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
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Originally Posted by Drake
You gotta be careful what you post over there, Drake - as a matter of fact, be careful what you post over here and at CP as well... You may end up being banned there... That's why it's slow.... Unless you've got something nice to say, you can't post at the Island.
Roham enjoys that...
Yep, I think I've made that perfectly clear :smiley2: :smiley20:Quote:
Originally Posted by SFG75
If the shoe fits.......
I hardly have time to keep up with this board :smiley19:Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
LOL-TFF!!, :smiley36: :smiley36:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roham
I must log off, you guys are just killing me. :smiley36:
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Originally Posted by ggiese
Why the @#$% are you making jabs at me? I haven't said jack to you to bring you into this argument.... You are funny George :smiley36: Not fair, just funny...