Hello fello smokers,
My name is Eric and I am from www.kiokicigars.com. Just want to stop by and say hi. If anyone has any questions please let me know.
Thank you and look forward to the join here.
HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!!!
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Hello fello smokers,
My name is Eric and I am from www.kiokicigars.com. Just want to stop by and say hi. If anyone has any questions please let me know.
Thank you and look forward to the join here.
HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!!!
You put your first post, an ad, in general discussion of cigars instead of "advertisements".
You have condescendingly invited people to ask any questions they may have. In doing so you've included one group who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about cigars AND etiquette. And, you've included another group who come here to get answers from trusted members.
Your product reflects an attempt at a target market that knows very little about cigars.
You most likely don't realize that the site owner also sells cigars online. Here, I'm being generous.
Your product is about 40% over other retailers.
Take your over-priced top 40 bullshit and peddle it elsewhere. No one here needs to ask you jackshit. What a fucking arrogant piece of shit.
Welcome and hope you have a great New Years too.:smiley20:Quote:
Originally Posted by kiokicigars
Don't pay attention to the negative post by Basil or I am sure the ones to follow my greeting. It's like peoples kids that scream in the grocery store, their just looking for some kind of attention they don't get at home. Have fun, there are some people who actually have something of interest to say. Cheers.
ok fuckwad, you stood on your dick at least once before and then did some kinda lameass apology that as it turns out was counterfeit. True colors. Apologize just enough to not get dogpiled and then lie in wait with your pencil dick resentment until you can get your revenge. Pathetic. You're too fucking stupid to see that this asshole above blundered in and committed a faux pas, shitting in YOUR living room. That is, if you consider yourself to be a part of this community. Go ahead shitface, dig your hole. I'll be standing by to kick dirt in over you, and here long after you're gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
edit: Oh shit cockslkr4life I re-read your bullshit from the Secret Santa thread; had forgotten what an imbecile you are. Keep it up chief, '08'll be a short year for you on this board. Fucking troll.
Ah, I see someone didn't get a thesaurus for christmas. No need to slam a guy on his first post. If you think he did something wrong, why not a PM and try to help the BOTL? At any rate have a great New Year.Quote:
Originally Posted by basil
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Originally Posted by slkr4life
Because, dumbass, he's a big boy and is responsible for himself. One wipes their feet upon entering, uses the restroom rather than the dining room corner, etc. Tell ya what though: let's put what I think to one side for a bit and see what others say over the next day or so. Why, even you seem to be predicting that the "ones to follow (your) greeting" may take issue with this salesman. Sounds like double talk chief. Troll agenda.
Thought the idea was to help each other out, not to unleash our angst because our moms didn't hug us enough as kids. Just wanted the guy to know that not everyone that enjoys cigars is like you. Kudos though on the language on this post. Good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by basil
Oh, "The one's to follow" was directed upon you, and yet again you did not disappoint. Seems you need help on that.
Looks like slkr4life done shit and fell back in it...Let the games begin!!!:smiley20:
Just so you know basil is one of the core group of guys here. You're way outa line here asshat.
If by "Core Group of Guys" you mean belligerent to anyone new that posts here, than yes you are correct sarge. Uh-oh, I am an asshat for thinking maybe you should PM the guy and let him know there was a better way to do his introduction? Really it is not that hard, give the guy a chance to correct the problem before fragging him. Mentoring is all about tact.Quote:
Originally Posted by cigarsarge
Sucker4life...Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Are you sure you're not in Airborne? Seems to me you just dropped in here and began a mission to seek and destroy. Maybe you ought to think about a campaign of winning "hearts and minds". :smiley2:
Having not been here very long, I don't blame you from not knowing what the "core group of guys" means. And - if you continue at this pace you will never know.
Your loss - but a shame, nonetheless... :smiley41:
Sweet. A box of Short Stories for 170 bucks.:smiley36:
slk, if you're here for the circlejerk, it ain't happening.:smiley2:
Popcorn anyone?
Slkr - you need to back off. This board has a different culture and what Basil said is perfectly acceptable here. What the first poster did, while maybe being ok on some boards, is not acceptable here. If Basil didn't point it out then somebody else would have. Like it or not, there is very little tolerance for those in the business, who come on here and try to use this forum as their own personal billboard.
You can't come here and jump in with both feet. It doesn't work that way. You've got 39 posts and you've already been involved in 2 altercations here. You need to figure out what this community is about before you come in swingin'.
You don't seem to like the fact that Basil jumped all over this guy, but you aren't at all reluctant to jump all over him. You seem to have some suggestions for how he should have handled his reply. Perhaps you should have taken your own advice and laid off the insults in yours. Here's what I mean - It's as clear as can be...
First you say...
Then you say...Quote:
Don't pay attention to the negative post by Basil or I am sure the ones to follow my greeting. It's like peoples kids that scream in the grocery store, their just looking for some kind of attention they don't get at home.
And yet again you say...Quote:
Ah, I see someone didn't get a thesaurus for christmas. No need to slam a guy on his first post. If you think he did something wrong, why not a PM and try to help the BOTL? At any rate have a great New Year.
Sounds like maybe somebody else didn't get enough hugs from their mom.Quote:
Thought the idea was to help each other out, not to unleash our angst because our moms didn't hug us enough as kids. Just wanted the guy to know that not everyone that enjoys cigars is like you. Kudos though on the language on this post. Good job.
And then, of course, there is this...
Seems to me that what you say and how you act in this thread are huge contradictions. Pick one and stick to it.Quote:
If by "Core Group of Guys" you mean belligerent to anyone new that posts here, than yes you are correct sarge. Uh-oh, I am an asshat for thinking maybe you should PM the guy and let him know there was a better way to do his introduction? Really it is not that hard, give the guy a chance to correct the problem before fragging him. Mentoring is all about tact.
You need to make up your mind... do you want people to be kind and helpful or do you want to come on this board and bitch to the regulars because they bitch too much? It's starting to sound like you want them to act the way you tell them to yet reserve the freedom to act as you like.
The people here are good folks and the board is a good one. You can fight with them (you will not win.. the culture is already established here) try to fit in, back off or just decide this ain't the place for you.
And yes, I do post on another board that you frequent, But just as I do there, I also respect the culture and the people here.
Of course, what you do is up to you. I'm just tryin' to help...
This ain't CigarLive...We call an asshat an asshat and scammers...scammers...In the full view of the board. You publically support a company that gouges cigar smokers. It makes me wonder about what you are all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
There is no seeking and destroying. Seniority is no excuse to be immediately ignorant to anyone or acceptable because that is just the way it is here. So you can warn me, threaten me, or (gasp) call me names but I will never tolerate blatant disrespect to anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggiese
Oh yeah, First twelve years was Airborne. How bout you?
You disrespect this board by supporting people that gouge fellow smokers and then questioning a senior members post comcerning the company in question. Seniority means something here. You have none. Your limited time here means nothing if you decide to question to take on established members.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
I repeat...This is not a politically correct board. We call em as we seeem. If you don't like it the door swings both ways. If you don't like our ways...Don't try to change them. Just go away before you totally meltdown.:smiley19:
Don't think there really is a need to back off. If you don't like a guy putting his business in his post then why not say " this isn't appreciated on this board or tolerated". There that was not to hard was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelby07
Yes I do have insults in my replies to Basil because that seems to be the only thing he understands. So if you think someone should be a lackey and not pick on him because he is a big "core member" than I would respectfully disagree. A person has to have basic standards of respect to people, not different sets dependant on which site they are on.
Don't care if it is a politically correct board, just that people use a little intelligence before typing. The guy has never gouged me, has he gouged you? Again, I could care less if you a senior member if you don't know how to talk to people. If someone deserves it than lambaste them, however when your first response is to than you lack any sense of credibility. Besides who could really meltdown, do you really take that much stock in what is said over a computerQuote:
Originally Posted by cigarsarge
Please don't wear your service on your sleeve. Lots of the guys here have served their country and their communities more than you'll ever know.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
He asked and I replied. Seems like a valid response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelby07
Some people get it...Some don't. You obviously don't. The guy attempted to gouge members here. Maybe you do not have a clue as to proper cigar prices. Maybe you like to pay $170 for a box of Short Stories...I get em for $100 a box.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Maybe you have no respect for a guy that gets it...Basil. The guy knows his stuff. What he says usually is dead on. He took the time to learn his way around here. He had some "difficulty" here understanding our way here when his tenure here was beginning. He is now respected as a core member here...You are just a newbie bent on changing things that are not gonna be changed by you.
Don't piss on another man's Wheaties is the moral of this story. You have not been here long enough to get any Wheaties from this bowl. Stop pissing and start listening.
If you don't like the way things are here I suggest you leave...
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Originally Posted by slkr4life
AIRBORNE!!! Thanks for the insight!!! That explains quite a bit!!! :smiley20: :smiley36:
So - why would it matter what I did for a living? I'm not for whipping out my penis in public just so you can be impressed. But I am seeing the need for you to do that - you testosterone fueled hunk you!!! :smiley31:
Try as you might - explain all you want to sucker4life - he just is not getting it. And I don't even see anything remotely resembling a dim flicker. I'm holding out hope it might be someday, but I fear it won't be any time soon... :smiley37:
Hey, don't get upset. I'm just trying to tactfully mentor you. (hmmm... maybe it doesn't always work, eh?)Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
I'm curious how you know so much about Basil already.
And, btw, if you knew anything about my history on this board, you would know that what you said here about not calling out a "core member" is probably the stupidest thing you've put out here so far. At least when I did it, right or wrong, I had a personal history to look at.
You just showed me how much you know about me, Basil, and everyone else here. I don't think you're gonna like this place. And I think this place is not gonna like you too much.
Now, rant on. I'm done.
I hate to do this... Big Clue, sucker4life - are you at all familiar with the writings of Sun Tzu?
I'm kinda curious... what happend to kiokicigars?
Got to head out to work guys...Pull the roast off the grill when the internal temp is about 550 degrees.:smiley36:
Be safe, Sarge!Quote:
Originally Posted by cigarsarge
Thank you. Have a great New Year. Maybe a PM would have worked a little better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelby07
Sorry chump, you don't get to define board etiquette here. And, your sarcasm makes it difficult to take you seriously. This is some of the "talking out of both sides of your mouth" that Shelby mentioned earlier. He was being pretty generous - I'll just call you what you are: dishonest, or, a liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
I think you should look this word up, you condescending piece of shit liar. Mothfucker, nobody is asking you to be a toady, just shut down your overfuckingblown ego and shut the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Oh wow, here you are genuflecting and being a lackey and shit. You wouldn't know respect if you tripped over it, plastic soldier.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Whose standards, forum police . . . yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Fucking please. You did not just type this, did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
The term is, "I couldn't care less", genius. Fucking save me.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Whoa! There goes that ego again. What a fucking tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Now we get down to who you think you are: Someone who thinks that what he does for a living gives him license to define others' reality. Wow. All you are is a plastic, cynical little nothing bitch who has made the mistake of thinking what he says here might really matter to anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
A thank you and then criticism. Contradictory?Quote:
Originally Posted by slkr4life
Here's the deal asshole: you owe everyone here an apology. You should do just that and then shut the fuck up for awhile and just maybe you might get it. This advice makes me your best fucking friend, so take it, or keep doing what you're doing and you can later wonder how the fuck you got buried like the pathetic victim you are.
I hate to get off topic here:smiley29:.
It looks like the kioki guy has been spamming a few cigar forums with the same shit trying to drum up interest in his website and some new Dominican line he is having produced. Wow! Another overpriced Dominican line of cigars. I can hardly wait to order.
back on topic...
Slkr4life, wether you realize it or not, basil is actually looking out for newbs and guys like you who may be naive enough to do business with this kioki fellow. If you don't like his tone or use of foul language, too bad that's how we are. We don't sugarcoat anything and we call it like it is (even if we have to say fuck or shit to get our point across). You can either choose to accept this board for what it is or move along and find one that is more suitable to you, there are plenty to choose from. The bottom line is this kioki fellow doesn't respect you or this board. All he is interested in is how much money he can make off of us. His post is not only bad form, it reminds me of the dozen or so spam emails I get daily that I delete without giving a second look.
"You put your first post, an ad, in general discussion of cigars instead of "advertisements".
In an attempt to sprinkle free ads across the internet, Kioki's plan has embarrassingly failed. I think a few free sticks offered to any interested respondents "in the advertising thread" would have been a reasonable approach.
Holy fuck-a-nolee, another tantrum from the "I can't play in Secret Santa cry-baby". Unbelievable. I stand by my rep point to you sukr4life.
So far your contributions to the board consist of two hissy fits......one of which led to the creation of a "special" secret santa for you and other newbies that looks like it might get a couple of members shafted.
Other members have spoken to the finer points of your transgressions in this thread, I agree with them and fully support them as they are my brothers......you dipshit, weren't, aren't, and will never be if you continue on this path. Crawl back over to your other board, where they won't let anyone call a troll a troll and your pansy ass will be protected by the mods........ so you can continue to give/receive the reach-arounds you have obviously come to expect, and dare I say, enjoy.
Did you get what you wanted, a big LOOK AT ME....?