Anyone try a NUB by Oliva yet? Looks like an interesting smoke. nubcigar
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Anyone try a NUB by Oliva yet? Looks like an interesting smoke. nubcigar
I haven't tried one yet but I REAAAAAAALLY want to. They sound great.
Interesting concept, can't wait to try one.
Says it smokes as long as a Churchill
Creative marketing. Sell you less tobacco for the same price. Check out this:
This is in relation to Wrigley's new packaging, but the concept transfers.
Brian Morgan, senior research analyst at Euromonitor, Chicago, concurred: "[Package shrink] is the strategy that has been used in many categories to accomplish a price increase without consumers really noticing or to smooth over the negative reaction."
Morgan added that, in the gum category more so than in other categories, consumers would likely respond positively to slimmer packaging: "Packaging innovations like that do make a difference, independent of what that does to the price."
Though the new packaging is, in effect, a price increase, Wrigley is hailing it as a packaging breakthrough. "Consumers like the fact that [the envelope] is slim, sleek; it feels very contemporary," said Chibe.
Interesting BigMac
Only one way to find out. I'll let the cigar do the deciding for me:smiley41:
There is a LOT of tobacco in a 4x64 cigar...probably as much as in a typical londsale, and certainly more than in a typical robusto (or corona, PC, etc, obviously). These are supposed to retail for around seven bucks, and are apparently quite good. I'd pay $7 for a good lonsdale/robusto/etc, so I don't see the problem here. Innovative =/= gimmicky.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMacFU
Ive had a few. Good cigars,worth finding and trying
FWIW I had some before any of the cigar live crew of asshats even heard of em
I am not a huge fan of large girth cigars, but I may have to give them a try in the future.
I'll try them, but if you think about it, if you don't actually NUB it, there's a lot of tobacco left in a 1" X 64 butt, as opposed to a 1" X 48 lonsdale.
I Have heard good things, and I love big cigars. Usually longer vitolas though.
Smokes as long as a churchill, huh?? I bet they smoke really cool
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Originally Posted by drew_goring
I would like to try one though I do think the idea of hitting the cigar "sweet spot" right off the bat is a little ridiculous.
Depends on the size you get. Their largest ring gauge works, not their narrower ones. (Site had three different gauges). Also larger leafs that are good enough to be wrappers are more expensive, these won't require leaves as large, so the wrappers are less expensive on smaller vitolas too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFellows
The hype has gotten old on this cigar. Like to smoke Olivas, want to try this new one, but getting wary of the hype. After the sucess of the V and it's resulting scarcity, Oliva is sure to sell these out weather they're that great or not. The are supposed to be constructed of the finest wrapper, binder and filler, but still be affordable and be a long burning, short cigar? Now I'm all set up to be dissapointed because it doesn't live up to the hype. Maybe they will take some demand off the V's and we can stock up on those.
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Double posted b/c I was working from my wife's crackberry.
I agree, the site says this would happen but I don't think it will. The "sweet spot" usually occurs after smoking the cigar for some time. The smoke/tobacco/flavor travels from the foot of the cigar towards the head and the flavor builds up.Quote:
Originally Posted by chefchris
I like Oliva's.......but, I don't believe the hype on this smoke and lean more towards this being a creative marketing ploy and little else. I might try one, maybe, but I have many other smokes in that price range I would rather pick up, and large ring gauge cigars are not my first choice.......unless of course they are imported and purchased on free Yahoo internet. :smiley20:
Well, any cigar that you can stand on it ash would have to be pretty well rolled. Why you would want to stand one on end beats me.
The Nub: http://nubcigar.com/intro_nub.php
They are nice! Our store carries all 3 lines: Habanos, Conn. and Cameroon. So far the most popular size is the torpedo.:smiley41:
I like Olivas and would like to try one of these. It would have to be very good for the price. I'm not looking forward to convinceing the wife, though.
I wonder...If you hit "the sweet spot" upon lighting just how complex is this cigar? A cigar develops from where it is lit to the end. I fear there is more hype than actuality in this cigar. I'd try one...Just don't think I'd buy a box.
It will be interesting to see how this thing goes.
I was wondering if anyone thinks these cigars are worth the money they are charging. Most of the places I saw are selling them for about $90-$140 a box (granted they are the devil sites) but I thought that was a bit much for a nub cigar. I bought my box of Olivia cigars for about $130. I thought if I get less of a cigar then I would pay less, but maybe they overlooked that in their marketing plan. I would like to try one of these, but have no intention on spending that much money for what I would consider 1/2 a cigar (I'd rather buy the full size cigar).
same here- skeptic, yet curious.
I would like to buy a fiver/sixer if anyone pulls the trigger on these or if we get enough group interest in a split (preferably the habano followed by the cameroon).
I think they come in boxes of 24, so a 4 or 6 way split would be good. I'd definitely be down for four of the Habano.Quote:
Originally Posted by slcraiders
And where's the maduro at. I know they have some pretty good maduro wrappers. Just try a a G robusto maduro or a G Special G maduro.
I highly doubt the cigar being in its sweet spot right off the bat. Maybe it hits it sooner than a typical shape due to the amount of tobacco actually being smoked yet not burning down the stick to far. If anyone has one sitting at home or can get one and has a small scale you can figure out how much tobacco is in it compared to other style smokes. Just weigh the Nub than weigh a few other sizes. Which ever is closest is your match.
According to the CI site the 4" x 60 is equivalent to a6.75" x 50 churchill. I'd love to try a couple of the 460 Connecticut.Quote:
Originally Posted by prostartjr1738
Take a look at the CI nub info here.
Apparently simple math isn't CIs strong suit. The Nub has about 85% the volume of a Churchill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corvin
Also, it only has approximately 75% of the surface area making it require less expensive wrapper leaf.
Just picked up a Hab and a Cam at the Local B&M. Come to find out Oliva was their on Tuesday promoting the Nub. Probably gave one of each away for free:smiley7:
Smoked the Hab last night. Great balanced cigar with plenty of flavor. Construction, burn, and draw were all nearly perfect. Although short, this was a good 40 minute smoke.. ...nubbed the nub.
Incase anyone is interested here's a video review of this cigar. Check it out. These guys have a lot of other reviews as well.
Nub 460 Connecticut review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpn_cINCIqQ
somehow i get the feeling these will burn very hot and leave a harsh after taste. maybe this isn't true because of the thickness but still i gotta imagine its a hotter smoke than a churchill
I have smoked some. Nice cigar, burn for a good while to.
Lots of flavor/smoke. Truth be told they were not "hot" until the nub, no pun intended.
Hey James, did you get any change-ups during the smoke or did it stay pretty much constant in the flavor profile? Curious of about the whole "sweet spot" thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by slcraiders
I picked up a cam. and conn. today. They are not as big (fat) as I thought they were going to be.
So my question is would you rather have the full size Olivia or the Nub?Quote:
Originally Posted by guado
Interestingly, with the exception of the first few puffs, it was pretty constant throughout flavor wise. The strength did change-up though. I do not buy the "sweet spot" theory myself. But this was a good cigar.Quote:
Originally Posted by ashauler
I know you directed this to Guado, but I will chime in. I tend to lean toward smaller smokes. I rarely have time for a Churchill so I would go with the Nub. Plus this (the Habano line) had a better and fuller flavor than a standard line Oliva.Quote:
Originally Posted by 597
I will post my opinion on the Cameroon in the next week or so...
Had a cam. today. It had the same flavor all the way through. Also it wasn't an hour smoke, more like 35 min. or so. To me, it really seemed like an average Cam. cigar that was cut in half. Nothing special. I'm going to try the Conn. in a day or two and the Habano is back ordered so I'll try one later.
All in all, nothing special. Sweet spot? Nope, like I said, it is a cigar cut in half.
I like all cigars....I never lean towards one or the other. It's just a matter of what I feel like smoking at that very moment. I know that doesn't help but there ya go.
The habano line supposedly is the same blend as the V...this information was given to me by someone very VERY close to the Oliva people...
Wasn't it created by somebody who used to work for Olivia but now doesn't? I didn't think this cigar had any direct ties to Olivia.Quote:
Originally Posted by guado