I think my city doesn't like good cheap smokes...

[Kenyth]

As I've found, "good cigars" run $8-$12 or more each. "Really good cigars" run $20-$30. All these are usually very consistent. I can only afford these as a treat.

"Decent cigars" are in the $3-$7 range with consistency being a big issue. I deal with these for the most part. Always on the hunt as the brands die off, and good batches go quick.

Under $3 is either whats left after they make the real cigars, what they train new rollers with, or usually both. You can still get some for "yard gars". No crime in doing that.

[webmost]

As I've found, "good cigars" run $8-$12 or more each. "Really good cigars" run $20-$30. All these are usually very consistent. I can only afford these as a treat.

"Decent cigars" are in the $3-$7 range with consistency being a big issue. I deal with these for the most part. Always on the hunt as the brands die off, and good batches go quick.

Under $3 is either whats left after they make the real cigars, what they train new rollers with, or usually both. You can still get some for "yard gars". No crime in doing that.

You can always roll your own. That's an option.

[Kenyth]

You can always roll your own. That's an option.

Where the heck would you get the tobacco? Doesn't it require tropical/subtropical climes to grow and store cigar class tobacco? Not to mention somewhere to cure and ferment it properly. Is there a "Cigar making from scratch for Dummies" book on Amazon?

[Kenyth]

Where the heck would you get the tobacco? Doesn't it require tropical/subtropical climes to grow and store cigar class tobacco? Not to mention somewhere to cure and ferment it properly. Is there a "Cigar making from scratch for Dummies" book on Amazon?

Holy crap! Google it and you will find it!

https://www.leafonly.com/

[ashauler]

Holy crap! Google it and you will find it!

https://www.leafonly.com/

Yep, they have it too.....but, the quality is nowhere near the other link I provided, all IMHO of course.

[Kenyth]

Yep, they have it too.....but, the quality is nowhere near the other link I provided, all IMHO of course.

LOL! Wow!

I'm impressed! I guess you can make a hobby out of doing just about anything!

Maybe after the kids grow up, I retire and get a little land or something. Right now, I've got enough trouble just finding time to smoke the things.

[Garbandz]

put the kids at the rolling table..........what a great "show and tell" for them at school.........

[webmost]

Yep, they have it too.....but, the quality is nowhere near the other link I provided, all IMHO of course.

You are completely backwards there. A beginning roller cannot go wrong with a blend kit from Whole Leaf Tobacco for under thirty bucks.

[ashauler]

The link I provided was to Whole leaf tobacco.

[ashauler]

Where the heck would you get the tobacco? Doesn't it require tropical/subtropical climes to grow and store cigar class tobacco? Not to mention somewhere to cure and ferment it properly. Is there a "Cigar making from scratch for Dummies" book on Amazon?

I HIGHLY recommend this place: http://wholeleaftobacco.com/
Don is a great guy, and very helpful.

He also has a forum with lots of info available here: http://fairtradetobacco.com/

Watch out, or you'll end up growing it too. That's just a tad bit of work, FYI.