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**Eville** · 03-11-2010, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kenyth

The light DA trigger is a no brainer for ease of use and safety. .

I never understood why they call it a DA trigger. By definition, a DA trigger should both cock the gun and fire the gun in one motion. However, a Glock's trigger only releases the striker, which should make it a SA. If you try to dry fire it twice in a row without racking the slid for the second shot, nothing happens. Or am I missing something here.

**Abyr** · 03-11-2010, 08:10 PM

Actually, a Glock isn't completely cocked, the trigger finishes cocking it and releases it. It's still not a double action, but it really isn't a single action either.

The striker firing mechanism has a spring-loaded firing pin that is cocked in two stages, powered by the firing pin spring. When the pistol is charged, the firing pin is in the half-cock position. As the trigger is pulled, the striker is then fully cocked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_pistol

**Eville** · 03-11-2010, 08:16 PM

Ohhh, thanks for clearing that up, it's been bugging me for a while.

**Tdre977** · 03-11-2010, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

I never understood why they call it a DA trigger. By definition, a DA trigger should both cock the gun and fire the gun in one motion. However, a Glock's trigger only releases the striker, which should make it a SA. If you try to dry fire it twice in a row without racking the slid for the second shot, nothing happens. Or am I missing something here.

I think the technical name is DAO (double action only) But with the "Glock safe" design even after racking the slide the gun is more like half-cocked and the trigger pull completes the cocking action. I think this has to do with the drop safety on the Glock as well.

**Tdre977** · 03-11-2010, 08:16 PM

beat me to the punch when i was refrencing my Glock book. (damn you wikipedia!)

**Abyr** · 03-11-2010, 08:41 PM

Lol, sorry about that, I knew it but I wanted to back it up.

DAO doesn't fit either. If it was a DAO, you could cock and fire it while empty, without working the slide.

**Tdre977** · 03-11-2010, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Abyr

Lol, sorry about that, I knew it but I wanted to back it up.

DAO doesn't fit either. If it was a DAO, you could cock and fire it while empty, without working the slide.

Yeah, you are right, DAO doesn't really fit the Glock either, but I definitely feel way more comfortable with the design of the Glock carrying it with a round in the chamber than I do with my 1911 chambered and cocked. I think the term DAO just gets thrown around alot with the law enforcement guns cause they dont want us drawing the hammer back starsky and hutch style.

**Abyr** · 03-11-2010, 11:36 PM

I agree with ya Bro. It's funny thought, I've always been more comfortable carrying a 1911, cause I can look and see exactly what's going on. That's not to say I'm uncomfortable with striker fired guns, as my current carry gun is a Ruger SR9, and it's firing mechanism is very Glock-ish. It's just far more comfortable, and fits my hand better than anything I've shot, including my 1911s.

**Paddy** · 03-12-2010, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Eville

I never understood why they call it a DA trigger. By definition, a DA trigger should both cock the gun and fire the gun in one motion. However, a Glock's trigger only releases the striker, which should make it a SA. If you try to dry fire it twice in a row without racking the slid for the second shot, nothing happens. Or am I missing something here.

I at one time had a PPK with a double trigger. I disliked that gun. The only advantage I found to the PPK was it was easily hidden in the small of my back.

**Kenyth** · 03-12-2010, 08:59 AM

I've always heard of that particular action referred to as "Light Double Action". It's a hybrid that is supposed to combine the speed and aiming advantage of a single action with the safety of a double action. Even if the hammer fell from the half cocked position (which it wouldn't), it couldn't fire the round.

Glock also puts the safety switch right on the trigger. Your fingertip disengages it when you pull the trigger. The safer design does not require a seperate safty switch to lock the trigger from an accidental pull.

An itchy trigger finger is still dangerous though. So watch it Paddy! You've got a nervous twitch in your eye.