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[logan37]

Quick history. There are 2 cigar shops very close to my home. One has a really friendly and courteous owner(knows my name talks to me as someone who loves cigars not as a salesman), the other has a salesman just trying to sell anything(don't know if he's owner or not). Both have a nice selection in their humidors. Needless to say I support the nice guy and buy from him.

However, today I was in the "nice guy's" shop looking for my weekend smokes. I opened a metal tube of a Partagas black label maximo and noticed a circle of grayish stuff near the foot on the cigar. I opened 2 more and found the same thing. I think it was mold. I read that if you see mold or evidence of beetles - run. But I would feel badly not going there because the owner is such a nice guy, so should I tell him that I found what I think is mold? He wasn't at the store today, there was some kid behind the counter that I've never seen before. I was thinking that I should go in tomorrow and show him what I have found. I walked out today and went to the other shop, which is a newer store and I didn't find any traces of mold while inspecting.

I would rather stay loyal to the friendly guy, but not for the chance of buying tainted smokes. They have a similar selection and the prices are comparable, I just don't like the guy who tries to sell me the first stick that I look at.

What Would You Do?
Tell the guy about the mold or go to the shop with the salesman and ignore his pitches?

[chefchris]

Point out the sticks to the owner. It might be plume. It might be mold, maybe he'll give them to you for free and you can scrape it off and smoke it anyway. Just don't stick em in your collection.

But considering that the mold is at the foot of the cigar, which would located at the capped end, I would think mold.

[guado]

Everytime I see funky stuff on a tubed cigar....it has been mold.

I have yet to see a tubed cigar get plume over time. All of mine that have it are boxed.

[ashauler]

Absolutely show the owner.......I'm sure he would want to know if its mold. As far as your loyalty with the $$.....there are 5 shops around me and I only shop at two of them with any regularity, for the same reasons.

[COMB2]

Let him know The shop I used to go to had top notch stuff but one day I looked at some R&J tubes and most of the box had mold.

What's up with the mold tubes? Trapped moisture? Tube holding heat?

[logan37]

Let him know The shop I used to go to had top notch stuff but one day I looked at some R&J tubes and most of the box had mold.

What's up with the mold tubes? Trapped moisture? Tube holding heat?

I would think a bit of both. These specific tubes had little foam discs at the opening/foot of tube. maybe something got stuck in there and spored??


Thanks guys, I'm going to let him know tomorrow. Not for the idea of free smokes, but the fact that he is a really good guy. Plus he's across the street from a Dunkin Donuts so it's a double win when I go there. I'm addicted to coffee too.

What's plume? Haven't heard that term before.

[BigMacFU]

If it's just one box no big deal. Even if it was a shipment, again no big deal. If his whole humi is that way, then you got a problem. You check out Maxi's off the Hempstead Turnpike, overpriced, but Jack (the owner) is a real nice guy and he runs a great shop. Pool table, byob, golden tee, darts, leather chairs, etc...

[Cigars 101]

What's up with the mold tubes? Trapped moisture? Tube holding heat?

It is a combination of some of that and a few extras. the trapped moisture held closer to the cigar and the somewhat warmer environment, no air circulation, and its dark. im a newbie at cigars but i do grow plants in a terrarium, and have had a problem with mold. so if you have a closed tube i would either open one end for the air to get to it a little more, or once a week take it out blow in the tube to replace the stagnant air. but then again i am a cigar newbie so i may be wrong, but thats what i think could work to reduce the chance of mold.

[logan37]

I just got back from the smoke shop and I showed the owner what I found on the Partagas. He thank me for showing him and encouraged me to tell him about anything else that seems "off" if I should find anything.

His explanation was that they had just changed the filters in his humidifiers so the humidity spiked the past couple of days. He showed me where his hydrometer is located and it read 78%Rh. He then assured me over the next few days it would drop some more and stabilize. He said the white spots were plume, which happens in high humidity and that it won't damage the stick or cause inferior quality. My naiveness still makes me skeptical about the Partagas, but the rest of his stock looks good, so I bought a RP "the edge" maduro that I'm going to fire up in about 10 mins.

Does the explanation that it was plume sound right to the guys who know? The owner's reaction scored him more points with me so I hope there is nothing for me to worry about.

FYI other newbs. I found this site with some great info that may answer some questions. http://cigarhumidors.vigilantinc.com...dors-101.asp#6

From the above web site about this topic:

14. What is bloom and what is mold?

Bloom (often called plume) is the slow rising of essential oils to the surface of the cigar. It first appears as tiny crystals and will eventually make the cigar appear dusty. A more advance bloom gives an opaque white look to the entire cigar. Bloom isn't harmful to cigars. It's an indication that the cigar has been maintained at a 70+% RH for a long period of time. Many smokers prefer a cigar in the bloom state.

Mold is a fungus. It appears on the surface of cigars when the relative humidity in your humidor exceeds 80%. It looks like blue/gray fuzzy patches on the surface of the wrapper and will spread by producing spores. If mold appears, you should remove the affected cigars and check for any mold on the wood of your humidor. It's important to separate the affected cigars immediately and to wipe down the interior lining of your humidor with isopropyl or denatured alcohol. This will kill mold and may leave slight stains on your humidor's interior wood. Click here to see photos of mold.

Gently wipe the mold off of your cigars and leave them at room humidity for 36 hours, then place them back into your humidor (obviously after addressing the moisture problem that caused the mold in the first place). Check these cigars every few days to ensure that mold growth has stopped. Some people recommend more drastic measures such as placing your cigars in the freezer to kill the mold. Try our method first before going to such extremes. If your problem continues, you may need a new humidor.
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15. My cigars have whites spots on them. Is that Okay?

The white spots on your cigars may be a very good sign that things are going well. Not all cigars need to be at 70 degrees F. White powder on cigars is called “bloom” and it is a sign of a well-aged cigar. Bloom is what happens when the oils in the tobacco disperse throughout and reach the wrapper. The oils then dry to create a white power on the outside of the cigar. Some avid cigar smokers prefer to smoke only cigars that have aged to bloom.