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    Mold on the cigars

    looks like PG stains on the band
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    I have no idea what you contracted there, but it looks like it itches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    Mold on the cigars

    looks like PG stains on the band
    whats pg?






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    That god awful crap people use with distilled water. P something - glycol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    Mold on the cigars

    looks like PG stains on the band

    yes, I use this Propylene Glycol Solution. Is it bad?

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    Drew got it. Water spots. They're harmless. Smoke em.
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    As others has stated, get rid of the solution and foam. Get some beads!

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    Better yet, get some crystals. Beads are a PITA inside desktops.

    Crystals are easy and work great.

    BTW, I recently ran into a box of jl pcs that had green/black areas on the band. I was told on another forum that it was the bronze pigment inside the wrapper oxidizing in the presence of water. So in other words no big deal they must have gotten a little to damp at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmp View Post
    Better yet, get some crystals. Beads are a PITA inside desktops.

    Crystals are easy and work great.

    BTW, I recently ran into a box of jl pcs that had green/black areas on the band. I was told on another forum that it was the bronze pigment inside the wrapper oxidizing in the presence of water. So in other words no big deal they must have gotten a little to damp at some point.

    As long as there is no sign of mold you are good.
    Guess we're going to disagree on this too. Beads are a PITA versus crystals? Are you referring to kitty litter? Also, would you mind finding me a link where someone is discussing the wrapper pigment oxidizing?

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    Just to stay off-topic for a sec ...

    A given volume of poly-acrylic gel will hold (and thus release) more water than the same volume of silica beads. Thus, if you need a humidity source (e.g., because one has a POS humidor that doesn't seal worth a d*mn) then poly-acrylics are "better" than beads - "better" meaning ONLY that one has to add water much less often.

    However, poly-acrylic used in this manner has no ability to regulate RH. To get that ability, one must use propylene glycol (PG) solution (50:50, and you're stuck with 70%RH). Thus, the available water is reduced in half. Now, that half is still more water than beads, but the difference in time-to-adding-water is not so great now.

    On the other side, in summer (or Florida) when/where the ambient RH is greater then desired - and one has to remove moisture - then silica beads (that aren't saturated) work much better than poly-acrylic with PG solution (and Poly-acrylic without PG doesn't work at all).

    Active humidification (with poly-acrylic in the reservoir) + beads = desktop (or display) SOTA (IMHO).
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