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    I really hate that word. As i said in another post, my 3870 was the Top Of The Line card that ATI offered when i bought it six months ago. Now it is already outdated.....grrrr. I don't mind not having the latest and greatest but with the new software and games out there these days you just about have to have one of the best systems to get them to perform smoothly.

    In a couple of months i will spend another 200 to 300 bucks on a Top Of The Line card, which will then be outdated in another six months.

    I am starting to side with the guys that still have their computers from the stone age of computing. They were simple and you didn't have to upgrade every few months....lol

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    I prefer to use the term "legacy hardware" over outdated. It's not outdated hardware since it's really not that old, and to be honest for the purpose the hardware was designed for it's a great card. It's like trying to run a high end workstation or entry level server with a 300 watt power supply. Of course you can do it, but don't bitch and complain when you release the magic smoke.


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    I haven't bought a new computer since May of 1998. It's not that I don't use them - obviously - I do jobs for people and pick up spare parts here and there. I don't have a super-pimped out system, but I get done what I need to get done.

    I really want one of those new netbooks, though.

    Now, if only I could fix cars the same way........


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    Quote Originally Posted by daredog4 View Post
    I really hate that word. As i said in another post, my 3870 was the Top Of The Line card that ATI offered when i bought it six months ago. Now it is already outdated.....grrrr. I don't mind not having the latest and greatest but with the new software and games out there these days you just about have to have one of the best systems to get them to perform smoothly.

    In a couple of months i will spend another 200 to 300 bucks on a Top Of The Line card, which will then be outdated in another six months.

    I am starting to side with the guys that still have their computers from the stone age of computing. They were simple and you didn't have to upgrade every few months....lol
    I know what you mean. Video cards are the fast moving hardware bit these days. Back in the day, it was the processor that changed every six months. Before that, it was the memory (measured in MB or even KB) and software's ability to use it. You didn't even give the video card much thought until the Pentium era.
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    Has anyone found a decent USB device that is a combined cigar cutter and lighting device? I've scoured eBay and it's a no go...

    I would like the USB fan, though - it looks like it would do a wonderful job of keeping the smoke from hanging in front of my face while I'm surfing the net!!!

    ...is there an expansion for my RS Model I expansion interface that gives me a USB port?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenyth View Post
    I know what you mean. Video cards are the fast moving hardware bit these days. Back in the day, it was the processor that changed every six months. Before that, it was the memory (measured in MB or even KB) and software's ability to use it. You didn't even give the video card much thought until the Pentium era.
    I just did the upgrade on my RS Model I that allows for descending lower case letters. MAN - what a DIFFERENCE!!!

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    The situation now is much better than it was 5 years ago. I have done system building, business analysis, and consuting for many years. It wasn't long ago that to get 512 mb video ram you were dropping 5 bills. Now its standard on all 100 dollar graphics cards. And with stuff like the mid-ranged 9800gt out for under 150, this is a buyers market on graphics cards.

    As to the notion that stuff is outdated... outdated doesn't mean useless. You can drop under 150 bucks on a graphics card that will play any game made quite respectably. Trying to future proof your rig by positioning yourself on the cutting edge with each release is a waste. Games just aren't there yet.
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    I was cleaning up over the weekend and came across a brand-new-in-the-package Radio Shack 1K static RAM chip - in case anyone needs it for their expansion interface.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    I was cleaning up over the weekend and came across a brand-new-in-the-package Radio Shack 1K static RAM chip - in case anyone needs it for their expansion interface.


    Dude! You're killing me here!

    Next you'll be bragging on upgrading your intel 8086 to dual 5 1/4" floppy drives and dreaming of the day you can afford one of those new high capacity 10MB fixed hard drives.


    Hercules graphics rule! Theoretical 720×350 resolution man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenyth View Post
    Dude! You're killing me here!

    Next you'll be bragging on upgrading your intel 8086 to dual 5 1/4" floppy drives and dreaming of the day you can afford one of those new high capacity 10MB fixed hard drives.


    Hercules graphics rule! Theoretical 720×350 resolution man!
    I hate to brag - but I do have my eye on a Radio Shack Model 4 with dual 5 1/4" floppies and a green screen (I hear it's easier on the eyes)...

    Hercules graphics... I hear good things about it. Not seen one yet, but I figure something will probably pop up at the HamFest this summer.

    Hey - don't know if you heard this. You can PUNCH a hole on the on the opposite side of those disks and make dual sided floppies out of 'em.

    10 MB fixed drive is out of the budget at the moment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmp View Post
    The situation now is much better than it was 5 years ago. I have done system building, business analysis, and consuting for many years. It wasn't long ago that to get 512 mb video ram you were dropping 5 bills. Now its standard on all 100 dollar graphics cards. And with stuff like the mid-ranged 9800gt out for under 150, this is a buyers market on graphics cards.

    As to the notion that stuff is outdated... outdated doesn't mean useless. You can drop under 150 bucks on a graphics card that will play any game made quite respectably. Trying to future proof your rig by positioning yourself on the cutting edge with each release is a waste. Games just aren't there yet.
    I will never "future proof" a system simply because it's not financially reasonable to even try, so I agree with you there. I saw potential with the Aegis accelerator card, but never bought one, and it was a great idea but no one, not even game dev's, bought into it.

    However, there are some games (Stalker: Clear Sky, Crysis, Far Cry 2, CoD4, CoD:WaW) that play or played horribly with the video cards that were top of the line when the game was released, even with dual cards. Crysis is a great example of this; it plays great on my single GTX 285, but game play sucked on dual 8800 GTX's. Even the Stalker pre-quil plays bad on a nVidia 9800, but I haven't tested it yet on my rig so I don't know how it will play.

    I think the games coming out will continue to push the hardware to evolve more than they did a few years ago, like when the original Ghost Recon was released in 2001 and UBISOFT used the very same game engine for their release of Sum of All Fears game for the movie when it came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarineOne View Post
    I will never "future proof" a system simply because it's not financially reasonable to even try, so I agree with you there. I saw potential with the Aegis accelerator card, but never bought one, and it was a great idea but no one, not even game dev's, bought into it.

    However, there are some games (Stalker: Clear Sky, Crysis, Far Cry 2, CoD4, CoD:WaW) that play or played horribly with the video cards that were top of the line when the game was released, even with dual cards. Crysis is a great example of this; it plays great on my single GTX 285, but game play sucked on dual 8800 GTX's. Even the Stalker pre-quil plays bad on a nVidia 9800, but I haven't tested it yet on my rig so I don't know how it will play.

    I think the games coming out will continue to push the hardware to evolve more than they did a few years ago, like when the original Ghost Recon was released in 2001 and UBISOFT used the very same game engine for their release of Sum of All Fears game for the movie when it came out.
    I def. don't consider crysis the benchmark everyone else did when it came out. It played like crap on my 8800 and my 9800 was playable at a lower res. I think that had way more to do with the coding than the cards. And don't get me wrong the graphics were good but far from amazing to the degree that was hyped. The other games mentioned played on my 9800 without a problem although I think the original stalker was kind of choppy when maxed.
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