Vitola Profiling

[mrtr33]

When I first started smoking cigars, it was explained to me that I could smoke all of the sizes of a particular blend, and, to the trained palate, each cigar would taste different, simply because of the size of the cigar. I don't doubt this. I know several members of this board have posted how they prefer certain vitolas over other for reasons of time, personal preference, etc.

But my question is if a certain vitola always provides a certain taste profile of a specific cigar. For example, what makes a lancero a more preferable size over a toro? A belicoso over a churchill? or a perfecto over a robusto?

I'm interested in what input you have to provide. Thanks.

[bigwhiteash]

One school of tthought is that the wrapper provides a very high percentage of the flavor you experience. Therefore, a cigar with a higher wrapper to filler ratio, (petite corona, lancero), would have more defined flavor compared to a robusto or torpedo.


I have found this to be true, at least in my opinion, with a few brands. Most notably with Oliva Serie V.

Perfectos, following that theory, seem to have a more dimensional flavor profile, since that ratio is constantly changing.

[ashauler]

I agree with Dennis, and would add the Tat Havana VI and LG double ligero lines to the Oliva V.

One school of tthought is that the wrapper provides a very high percentage of the flavor you experience. Therefore, a cigar with a higher wrapper to filler ratio, (petite corona, lancero), would have more defined flavor compared to a robusto or torpedo.


I have found this to be true, at least in my opinion, with a few brands. Most notably with Oliva Serie V.

Perfectos, following that theory, seem to have a more dimensional flavor profile, since that ratio is constantly changing.

[mrtr33]

Interesting. Thanks.

Slightly changing the topic of the thread, what other characteristics would make a cigar change taste while smoking? Aside from the vitola? If the wrapper dictates the flavor, and it's the same ring gauge throughout, what would cause a flavor change?

[big bill]

Mrtr 33 thanks for this thread never thought of the ratio between wrapper and filler that btw brought up. this is kind of stuff noobs like me need to learn.and so much more to learn from you'll thanks.

[craig]

To confound the issue, some cigarmakers change the blend to compensate for differences in ring. For example, Habanos excludes ligero in narrow-ring cigars.

One can also play with the placement of the filler leaves within the cigar - although, AFAIK, this is only done in perfectos.

[Shelby07]

Usually a fatter ring gauge will have a milder profile. From what I understand, this is because the larger girth makes the leaf burn slower, hence cooler.

As for the taste profile changing, I could guess that different tobaccos react differently as the cigar heats up and the oils build in the cigar from the heat. I'd guess it's due to the cigar itself changing as it's smoked, not the tobacco leaf being different in parts of the cigar. If this is true, then Cuban leaf seems to be more susceptible to the effects of the burn, hence they are more "complex." Not sure about this one, but it seems to make sense.

EDIT: after thinking about this for a little bit, it occurs to me that this would also explain why certain blends or puros taste better at different humidities.

Again, I'm just surmising things here... I will defer to those who know more than I.

[badwhale]

To confound the issue, some cigarmakers change the blend to compensate for differences in ring. For example, Habanos excludes ligero in narrow-ring cigars.

One can also play with the placement of the filler leaves within the cigar - although, AFAIK, this is only done in perfectos.

I was thinking someone said that before...now I'm sure.

I was just emailing Irish79 the other day that I notice different flavors / body between different sizes of the same line. He was basically asking the same question. So, I agree that this happens.

Edit: This is also why I think its important to list the size for a review.

Will

[basil]

To confound the issue, some cigarmakers change the blend to compensate for differences in ring. For example, Habanos excludes ligero in narrow-ring cigars.

This is done in the Cabaiguan line - the Guapo being a stronger cigar than the others due to a different blend.

I think they came out and said is was different - marketed it as differrent; a limited run?

[fotnixult]

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[EGQ]

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Hi every body
excuse me for my englsih , i'm french
so i'm french madden player , i love this game
but i try to increase my level in this game.

is it cool to buy this season pass ?

it's a bad question but i try to have comment to know if this pass is very good ... i read a lot of comment about this but i want to increase my defense

thank you very much

[mrtr33]

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[bigwhiteash]

Fhat the Wuck???

[ashauler]

Hi every body
excuse me for my englsih , i'm french
so i'm french madden player , i love this game
but i try to increase my level in this game.

is it cool to buy this season pass ?

it's a bad question but i try to have comment to know if this pass is very good ... i read a lot of comment about this but i want to increase my defense

thank you very much

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[SirPuffsAlot]

I don't even know what you said there ashauler but I'm impressed all the same! Not to take anything away from the information you can get from CS but theres a TON of information at JR Cigars website http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cigar_university That has definitely helped me out a lot and broadened my understanding of how this whole cigar thing works.