Humidors and ministers and the way some cigar communities work

[kaelaria]

Ashauler either you are the type of personality that likes to try and bait people, or you seriously have a reading comprehension deficiency. I'm not going through it again because I'm not the type of personality that gets baited, and I don't have patience for the other kind of people. Re-read my sentence and for the last time, I did not direct my comment about a board, or it's members. I commented on other people's behavior (including yours) here and elsewhere. That simply means the individuals have been behaving poorly (IMO) in multiple places. It does NOT mean anything negative about WHERE they were doing it. So in short, the attempt at riling up members here on the false pretense that they have somehow been insulted is a dead-end. The only people that should take offense(and/or be ashamed IMO) are those that made the rude, insulting, personally attacking remarks about the guy on a personal level.

I understand where you guys are coming from in your respects and feelings for the industry and it's practices. Whether or not anyone breaks your preferred methods I didn't feel some of the hurtful, rude, baiting, etc. remarks made in the various threads were something to be proud of. Whether you think you are 100% right in everything you did (speaking to those that made remarks) bear in mind that other people feel this way.

One question I do have though is - if this guy was so terrible for whatever reasons, why was he not simply banned by the admin(s)? Does this forum simply run by the group consensus in any way they feel?

Ashauler, I will be ignoring all your future posts, I have absolutely no interest in having any further conversations with you.

[ashauler]

Ashauler either you are the type of personality that likes to try and bait people, or you seriously have a reading comprehension deficiency. I'm not going through it again because I'm not the type of personality that gets baited, and I don't have patience for the other kind of people. Re-read my sentence and for the last time, I did not direct my comment about a board, or it's members. I commented on other people's behavior (including yours) here and elsewhere. That simply means the individuals have been behaving poorly (IMO) in multiple places. It does NOT mean anything negative about WHERE they were doing it. So in short, the attempt at riling up members here on the false pretense that they have somehow been insulted is a dead-end. The only people that should take offense(and/or be ashamed IMO) are those that made the rude, insulting, personally attacking remarks about the guy on a personal level.

I read and comprehend just fine, perhaps you are just in denial. I don't think you'll find any instances of me baiting anyone, if you can, please post them up. Confronting dishonest individuals with questionable character.....yep, I'm guilty of that. Also people that come here to take from the community as opposed to being contributing members are similarly confronted, not just by me, but rather by the community.

I understand where you guys are coming from in your respects and feelings for the industry and it's practices. Whether or not anyone breaks your preferred methods I didn't feel some of the hurtful, rude, baiting, etc. remarks made in the various threads were something to be proud of. Whether you think you are 100% right in everything you did (speaking to those that made remarks) bear in mind that other people feel this way.

I know other people feel the way that I, and other members here feel. Thanks for the affirmation though.

One question I do have though is - if this guy was so terrible for whatever reasons, why was he not simply banned by the admin(s)? Does this forum simply run by the group consensus in any way they feel?

Obviously you haven't read the forum rules, nor have you taken any time to read and figure out how this fourm functions. This failure on your part speaks volumes.

Ashauler, I will be ignoring all your future posts, I have absolutely no interest in having any further conversations with you.

Now I'm hurt. For some reason though, I don't think I'm the only one you'll have to be putting on ignore since you refuse to answer any of the questions posed to you.

[ggiese]

What I find very interesting is the thought that your argument is supported by those that privately and quietly support your thoughts. I hate to tell you - there are substantial numbers of individuals that quietly appreciate the crew that creates an environment where they can have little fear they will be taken advantage of.

I see where you're coming from, though - you own/run a photography business and if you pick up a few good leads because you make friends at a cigar site - hey! More power to ya! But if you're doing a "hobby" that's actually a business - or you're trying to grow your "hobby"/business through constant self-promotion - it will be a rough row to hoe. That's not what this forum is for, and you should not expect it to be that way. This site was never intended to be an info-mercial platform.

[badwhale]

What I find very interesting is the thought that your argument is supported by those that privately and quietly support your thoughts. I hate to tell you - there are substantial numbers of individuals that quietly appreciate the crew that creates an environment where they can have little fear they will be taken advantage of.

I see where you're coming from, though - you own/run a photography business and if you pick up a few good leads because you make friends at a cigar site - hey! More power to ya! But if you're doing a "hobby" that's actually a business - or you're trying to grow your "hobby"/business through constant self-promotion - it will be a rough row to hoe. That's not what this forum is for, and you should not expect it to be that way. This site was never intended to be an info-mercial platform.

Quietly nods head.

Will

[heftysmokes]

Now George, I'm sure what Cholera has to bring to the table far outweighs what...shit, never mind. Somebody already used that line.

[ashauler]

Now George, I'm sure what Cholera has to bring to the table far outweighs what...shit, never mind. Somebody already used that line.

LMAO. See, you'll have to ignore more than just me Cholera ole buddy.

[bigwhiteash]

LMAO. See, you'll have to ignore more than just me Cholera ole buddy.

When 95% of your posts direct viewers to your website, I'm not interested, and will question why you are here? Hit Count?

You'll need to put me on ignore also.

[Artyman1200]

Cholera, I think we've all been wondering how long you would just keep posting your review videos without having any real involvement in the community. You're probably a real likeable fella, but you need to get a better feel for what this conmmunity is about.

So here's some advice from one newb to another - stop thinking like an entrepreneur and start thinking more like a cigar smoker that just wants to hang out and share.

You probably haven't done enough damage to totally ruin things for yourself, so I'd think carefully before you respond any further.

[heftysmokes]

I do appreciate Craig's post and his level-headed approach to getting the facts out there, but it seems that fairly regularly someone shows up on the boards with a new and better way of doing things. Only problem is, the new and better way is usually built to suit the new and better member.
This place has been around for years, and with few exceptions, it has chugged allong pretty well. Maybe you should look a little deeper (read: read more) before you start badmouthing members who have been here and helped build this board. The FOG's aren't perfect, and they still need to be held accountable, but probably not by a wet behind the ears newb who doesn't know shit about shit.

[Diesel Grinch]

It's really simple. If you like the web site then go thank someone that's been active here over time that help shape it. If you don't like the site and hows things work then why are you here at all?

If you put enough of us on ignore you could have the site all to yourself.

DG

[craig]

Well, I tried nice and logical. For the moment, it doesn't appear to have worked . I guess that I should have named the thread differently - I can only rename the post now.

[heftysmokes]

SNIP
One question I do have though is - if this guy was so terrible for whatever reasons, why was he not simply banned by the admin(s)? Does this forum simply run by the group consensus in any way they feel?
SNIP

Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner!!! Go read up and you'll find that is exactly how we do things around here.