Humidors and ministers and the way some cigar communities work

**ggiese** · 05-08-2009, 10:22 AM

What I find very interesting is the thought that your argument is supported by those that privately and quietly support your thoughts. I hate to tell you - there are substantial numbers of individuals that quietly appreciate the crew that creates an environment where they can have little fear they will be taken advantage of.

I see where you're coming from, though - you own/run a photography business and if you pick up a few good leads because you make friends at a cigar site - hey! More power to ya! But if you're doing a "hobby" that's actually a business - or you're trying to grow your "hobby"/business through constant self-promotion - it will be a rough row to hoe. That's not what this forum is for, and you should not expect it to be that way. This site was never intended to be an info-mercial platform.

**badwhale** · 05-08-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by ggiese

What I find very interesting is the thought that your argument is supported by those that privately and quietly support your thoughts. I hate to tell you - there are substantial numbers of individuals that quietly appreciate the crew that creates an environment where they can have little fear they will be taken advantage of.

I see where you're coming from, though - you own/run a photography business and if you pick up a few good leads because you make friends at a cigar site - hey! More power to ya! But if you're doing a "hobby" that's actually a business - or you're trying to grow your "hobby"/business through constant self-promotion - it will be a rough row to hoe. That's not what this forum is for, and you should not expect it to be that way. This site was never intended to be an info-mercial platform.

Quietly nods head.

Will

**heftysmokes** · 05-08-2009, 10:27 AM

Now George, I'm sure what Cholera has to bring to the table far outweighs what...shit, never mind. Somebody already used that line.

**ashauler** · 05-08-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by heftysmokes

Now George, I'm sure what Cholera has to bring to the table far outweighs what...shit, never mind. Somebody already used that line.

LMAO. See, you'll have to ignore more than just me Cholera ole buddy.

**bigwhiteash** · 05-08-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by ashauler

LMAO. See, you'll have to ignore more than just me Cholera ole buddy.

When 95% of your posts direct viewers to your website, I'm not interested, and will question why you are here? Hit Count?

You'll need to put me on ignore also.

**Artyman1200** · 05-08-2009, 10:48 AM

Cholera, I think we've all been wondering how long you would just keep posting your review videos without having any real involvement in the community. You're probably a real likeable fella, but you need to get a better feel for what this conmmunity is about.

So here's some advice from one newb to another - stop thinking like an entrepreneur and start thinking more like a cigar smoker that just wants to hang out and share.

You probably haven't done enough damage to totally ruin things for yourself, so I'd think carefully before you respond any further.

**heftysmokes** · 05-08-2009, 10:53 AM

I do appreciate Craig's post and his level-headed approach to getting the facts out there, but it seems that fairly regularly someone shows up on the boards with a new and better way of doing things. Only problem is, the new and better way is usually built to suit the new and better member.
This place has been around for years, and with few exceptions, it has chugged allong pretty well. Maybe you should look a little deeper (read: read more) before you start badmouthing members who have been here and helped build this board. The FOG's aren't perfect, and they still need to be held accountable, but probably not by a wet behind the ears newb who doesn't know shit about shit.

**Diesel Grinch** · 05-08-2009, 11:25 AM

It's really simple. If you like the web site then go thank someone that's been active here over time that help shape it. If you don't like the site and hows things work then why are you here at all?

If you put enough of us on ignore you could have the site all to yourself.

DG

**DeeDubya** · 05-08-2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel Grinch

It's really simple. If you like the web site then go thank someone that's been active here over time that help shape it. If you don't like the site and hows things work then why are you here at all?

If you put enough of us on ignore you could have the site all to yourself.

DG

I wanna be on the list too!