Budget Box Pass

[badwhale]

Craig (and everyone else),

I will be off the net for the next few days on vacation climbing (starting noon 5/21 back sometime 5/26). I highly doubt if that will impact the pass but thought I should post just incase. Craig you have my number if anything comes up.

Nate

Well, at least you'll be back right in time for the online herf!

Have fun on vaca.

Will

[craig]

Okay, we've got ourselves a pass! No other Canadians!

Pass Order
1. Cajunblaze, Louisiana
2. Mrtr33, Louisiana
3. Ashauler, Kansas
4. Prophetic_Joe, Iowa
5. EGQ, Illinois
6. Cigarsarge, Tennessee
7. Big Bill, North Carolina
8. Factored Reality, Virginia
9. BadWhale, Pennsylvania
10. Irish79, Pennsylvania
11. Diesel Grinch, New Jersey
12. Craig, Ottawa

Pass will be shipped on Monday to Cajunblaze. It'll take about two weeks for the package to get there, but everybody else should be two or three days with USPS Priority Mail.

Hope everyone has a good weekend!


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[CAJUNBLAZE]

I will be waiting.
I know there is a limit on how many to take out of each tray, but shouldn't the put replace the take in that tray. I get the pass I can trade 8 sticks, but the next person could trade 8 sticks in the tray and my eight sticks. I'm rather new to passes, but it doesn't seem right for others down the pass. Is there usually limits to all put and takes?

Rich

[prophetic_joe]

I will be waiting.
I know there is a limit on how many to take out of each tray, but shouldn't the put replace the take in that tray. I get the pass I can trade 8 sticks, but the next person could trade 8 sticks in the tray and my eight sticks. I'm rather new to passes, but it doesn't seem right for others down the pass. Is there usually limits to all put and takes?

Rich

No because it really shouldn't matter what you take because what you do take you replace value for value, isom for isom and such usually. That way the guys down the road get equally good quality sticks. It is really up to the pass leader though.

[craig]

I will be waiting.
I know there is a limit on how many to take out of each tray, but shouldn't the put replace the take in that tray. I get the pass I can trade 8 sticks, but the next person could trade 8 sticks in the tray and my eight sticks. I'm rather new to passes, but it doesn't seem right for others down the pass. Is there usually limits to all put and takes?

Rich

There's a max of two sticks per tray. Consider a six stick tray. If you take two sticks from that tray, you put two in that same tray. Thus, there are still six sticks in the tray. Let's say that the next person takes a stick from the tray. It could be one of your two sticks; it could be one of the four sticks left from the six sticks that were in that tray when you received the pass. The next person takes one stick and puts back one stick. Thus, there are always six sticks in that tray.

No because it really shouldn't matter what you take because what you do take you replace value for value, isom for isom and such usually. That way the guys down the road get equally good quality sticks. It is really up to the pass leader though.

Yup.

There is a strict value for value restriction for each stick in the pass. Thus, for example:

Albert takes out a $10 and an $8 stick from a tray. He tries to put in:
- two $5 sticks. No good; value too low.
- a $15 stick and $5 stick. No good. Even though the combined value is okay, one stick is too low in value.
- one $20 stick. No good. Again, the value is okay, but the number of sticks isn't.
- twenty $1 sticks. No good again.
Albert has to put one stick with a value of at least $10, and another stick worth at least $8. As this is a "get-your-feet-wet" pass, I will be strict (anal) on this. Puts/takes will not be approved unless each stick put is greater then or equal to the value of the stick taken.

Also, as this is a "get-your-feet-wet" pass, I expect there to be discussion of folk's puts and takes. Please don't take it personally. This is a learning pass, and the major learning point is how to value cigars fairly in passes. Please follow the style of the example given in the third post when posting puts/takes.

There is no ISOM for ISOM restriction in the pass. Most passes do have this restriction, but this one does not. You can put a non-ISOM in for an ISOM (subject to the tray restriction) as long as the value is good. (ISOM for ISOM is okay, as is ISOM for non-ISOM. Basically, ignore country of origin for this pass. It doesn't matter to me if, at the end, there are no ISOM sticks left in the pass .