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    Btw - please don't read my viewpoint wrong. I enjoy shooting firearms. I was a competitive shooter for a time. I constantly practiced and trained. I was completely serious about my responsibility of being the best I could be with the weapon i was carrying so that if I did need to use it, I was prepared.

    But - further - I also was heavily involved in self defense classes. I trained to be in a position to NOT have to use the gun if there was an opportunity to avoid it. And - I even focused a large portion of that self defense training on dealing with edged weapons or blunt instruments (e.g. Baseball bates, batons, etc) so if I was attacked I would not automatically need to go to a gun to neutralize the threat.

    Fwiw - from my viewpoint If you're serious about defending yourself with a gun - you REALLY need to be able to defend yourself without one. And - if you're going to carry it you have a responsibility to ensure you are very well trained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    Btw - please don't read my viewpoint wrong. I enjoy shooting firearms. I was a competitive shooter for a time. I constantly practiced and trained. I was completely serious about my responsibility of being the best I could be with the weapon i was carrying so that if I did need to use it, I was prepared.

    But - further - I also was heavily involved in self defense classes. I trained to be in a position to NOT have to use the gun if there was an opportunity to avoid it. And - I even focused a large portion of that self defense training on dealing with edged weapons or blunt instruments (e.g. Baseball bates, batons, etc) so if I was attacked I would not automatically need to go to a gun to neutralize the threat.

    Fwiw - from my viewpoint If you're serious about defending yourself with a gun - you REALLY need to be able to defend yourself without one. And - if you're going to carry it you have a responsibility to ensure you are very well trained.
    Excellent posts George and thank you very much for resonding! I understand now quite clearly what you meant about the hassles involved in CC.

    To be honest, I'd never given it more than a passing thought because it is pretty much impossible here in Canada. Also, I'm smart enough to know that it can lead to all kinds of problems and I've had enough of those in my life without gun related problems on top of the rest. After reading your responses, I'm pretty glad it isn't a possibilty for me. So far, I've managed to take care of myself without needing a gun and I'd much prefer to keep it that way.

    I'll stick to shooting hanguns for fun and stress relief at the range and hunting in the fall.
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    I am the master of my fate:
    I am the captain of my soul.

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    Trigger happy gun owners make me laugh. You all know the type. The ones that fantasize about it. The ones that could't hit the broad side of a barn under stress. Believe me, your trouble has just begun when you shoot someone, whether it's justified or not. You're better off investing in a good pair of sneakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Doc View Post
    Trigger happy gun owners make me laugh. You all know the type. The ones that fantasize about it. The ones that could't hit the broad side of a barn under stress. Believe me, your trouble has just begun when you shoot someone, whether it's justified or not. You're better off investing in a good pair of sneakers.

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    If you've not had someone say to you, "Go ahead - do us both a favor and pull the trigger..." as you're pointing your cannon at their face - you ain't never lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Doc View Post
    Trigger happy gun owners make me laugh. You all know the type. The ones that fantasize about it. The ones that could't hit the broad side of a barn under stress. Believe me, your trouble has just begun when you shoot someone, whether it's justified or not. You're better off investing in a good pair of sneakers.

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    +1...AVOID, DIFFUSE, or RUN...Shoot if you have gone through all those options. As you said, shooting someone will make your life a living hell if justified or not (even worse)...

    I like to shoot gun for sport and for self defense...99% of the time lethal or injurious force is not the right option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMGfan View Post
    +1...AVOID, DIFFUSE, or RUN...Shoot if you have gone through all those options. As you said, shooting someone will make your life a living hell if justified or not (even worse)...

    I like to shoot gun for sport and for self defense...99% of the time lethal or injurious force is not the right option.
    Um, Huh? I don't think I'd enjoy actually having to discharge my firearm in self-defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashauler View Post
    Um, Huh? I don't think I'd enjoy actually having to discharge my firearm in self-defense.
    I didn't write it correctly...I enjoy sport shooting and have certain firearms for self defense. I would not take any enjoyment in shooting anyone...that is a psychosis I don't maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMGfan View Post
    99% of the time lethal or injurious force is not the right option.
    As someone who carries a firearm 100% of the time, this sums it up for me, while I wouldnt enjoy it, it wouldnt make me lose sleep at the same time.

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    I just bought a new hunting rifle.....another Savage 99C in .308

    I had one already as well as a 99F as backup. The C has a 4 round removable magazine, the F has the built in 5 round rotary the Savage 99 lever action's are famous for. I like the convenience of a removable mag and lets face it, it's safter for unloading too. The new one is in transit and should get here in time for me to take the scope off the 99F and put it on the new C and get it sighted in before I leave on my annual 2 week hunting trip on Oct 31st.

    So I'm pretty pumped......LOL.........new rifle, hunting trip only a few weeks away, picked up hunting trailer yesterday and it's in the driveway ready to be cleaned, prepped and packed. Got my 30 cigar travel humidor prepping on the desk (can't forget that!)

    My wife can't stand me for most of October and always breathes a sigh of relief the morning I leave!

    I'm off to the range tomorrow morning to go run a few through my "soon to be the backup" 99C and blast some of the 1000 rounds of .22 I have in my ammo can and maybe a 100 or so of the .45 acp..........I love the smell of cordite in the cool morning air!
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    Picked up a new house gun today Stoeger P-350 Pump, Pistol Grip 12-GA, 3-1/2” Black synthetic.
    http://www.stoegerindustries.com/fir...er-defense.php

    I went looking for a 380 "the wife will not let me have hers " but did not find any i liked, then this gun caught my eye at the right price.
    I hate to see what i come back with next time i go looking for a 380 i all most walked out with a nice SKS but i just dont have a use for one at this time.
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