Gun Owning Smokers

[EGQ]

Just a Glock for me -- G22, also .40. Some target shooting, but no hunting -- thinking about something to kill rabbits -- those vermin have been trashing my landscaping for the last few years. I suspect the neighbors may not approve of me opening fire...

Growing up, I had a neighbor that used a rifle to shoot chimpmunks. Any suggestions for shooting rabbits at relatively close range? Anyone have a recipe for hasenfeffer?

[badwhale]

My 870 20 gauge is getting close to 30 years old. It's also rather unique in that it has a 12 gauge stock matched to a 20 gauge barrel.

Every once in a while I think of getting something new. Then I pull it out to clean and I remember how well it's done for me over the years.

DG

You know, after I posted about the choke, I thought "mabye its not automatically a 12 gauge"...

Just a Glock for me -- G22, also .40. Some target shooting, but no hunting -- thinking about something to kill rabbits -- those vermin have been trashing my landscaping for the last few years. I suspect the neighbors may not approve of me opening fire...

Growing up, I had a neighbor that used a rifle to shoot chimpmunks. Any suggestions for shooting rabbits at relatively close range? Anyone have a recipe for hasenfeffer?

High tech sling shot? That might be fun...
Pellet Gun? I got one at a (made in China) tool sale for about 20 bucks.
22LR with a silencer?... no no better not recommend that.

Will

[Eville]

I imagine a .22lr or a 22 mag would be sufficient. 410 if you aren't a very good shot.. I don't have any experience with it though.

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[Kenyth]

Ummmmm......... sorry dude, no comprende'.

[CptnBlues63]

Two of my favorite passions, firearms and cigars. I always take a good cigar with me to the range.

I have a couple of lever action .308's for hunting. A 12ga, a .410, several .22 single shot rifles, my trusty Ruger 10/22 and my Para-Ordinance 1911 .45 acp. (the GI Expert model)

I totally love that handgun! For an inexpensive .45 it works like a dream and is very accurate with a very nice trigger pull.

I've shot Glock's and wasn't all that impressed. I know they're a sturdy, reliable handgun that can be abused to no end and still work....but I've found I can shoot my .45 a whole lot more accurately. My little brother is a cop and they get issued Glock 22's in .40 cal. He brought his, and 1000 rounds up one Saturday last summer and we headed to the range. I found after about 200 rounds his Glock made my trigger finger sore. That has never happened with any handgun I've ever owned and over the years, I've had quite a few.

Also, when shooting at 25 and 50 yards, I'm a whole lot more accurate with my .45 than his Glock. Even he said (without prompting) that my trigger was a lot nicer and smoother than his. It goes without saying that if a trigger is stiffer and harder to pull, it will make you less accurate over longer distances.

I don't know that I'd buy a Glock unless it was a really, really, good deal. I'm looking at getting a Ruger bullbarrel .22 semi-auto and a Ruger single action .22/.22 magnum for my next handgun purchases.

[Kenyth]

Two of my favorite passions, firearms and cigars. I always take a good cigar with me to the range.

I have a couple of lever action .308's for hunting. A 12ga, a .410, several .22 single shot rifles, my trusty Ruger 10/22 and my Para-Ordinance 1911 .45 acp. (the GI Expert model)

I totally love that handgun! For an inexpensive .45 it works like a dream and is very accurate with a very nice trigger pull.

I've shot Glock's and wasn't all that impressed. I know they're a sturdy, reliable handgun that can be abused to no end and still work....but I've found I can shoot my .45 a whole lot more accurately. My little brother is a cop and they get issued Glock 22's in .40 cal. He brought his, and 1000 rounds up one Saturday last summer and we headed to the range. I found after about 200 rounds his Glock made my trigger finger sore. That has never happened with any handgun I've ever owned and over the years, I've had quite a few.

Also, when shooting at 25 and 50 yards, I'm a whole lot more accurate with my .45 than his Glock. Even he said (without prompting) that my trigger was a lot nicer and smoother than his. It goes without saying that if a trigger is stiffer and harder to pull, it will make you less accurate over longer distances.

I don't know that I'd buy a Glock unless it was a really, really, good deal. I'm looking at getting a Ruger bullbarrel .22 semi-auto and a Ruger single action .22/.22 magnum for my next handgun purchases.

I'm glad the larger Para-Ordinance models work well. I suspected they would since the 1911 is otherwise a tried and true design. The PO sub-compact I owned did nothing but jam (a re-engineered design). The stovepipe jams were certainly due to the recoil snapping the pistol up. Holding it tightly would reduce this problem, but it's hard to hold tight on a short grip. The feed problems were all due to the steep angle of the ramp and that's engineering.

It doesn't surprise me that your single action is more accurrate and reduced fatigue. Single action is optimal under those circumstances. The Glock trigger is a compromise. It stays in the holster safely, and comes out of the holster ready to fire. Many consider a single action to be dangerous if stored in the holster cocked and with the safety off. The Glock style trigger also helps prevent accidental discharge in a tense situation. It's also a more "idiot proof" design. Less fumbling with hammers and safeties. IMHO, it's more useful for fast response situations, such as law enforcement, where ease of use, speed of deployment, and safe handling are primary concerns.

There is a trade off of course, which is a longer trigger pull and unusual trigger design. The longer pull reduces accuracy, although training can help compensate for that. The "double" trigger safety design puts extra stress on the crease of the fingertip, which can cause chafing and irritation in long practice shoots.

[CptnBlues63]

I'm glad the larger Para-Ordinance models work well. I suspected they would since the 1911 is otherwise a tried and true design. The PO sub-compact I owned did nothing but jam (a re-engineered design). The stovepipe jams were certainly due to the recoil snapping the pistol up. Holding it tightly would reduce this problem, but it's hard to hold tight on a short grip. The feed problems were all due to the steep angle of the ramp and that's engineering.

It doesn't surprise me that your single action is more accurrate and reduced fatigue. Single action is optimal under those circumstances. The Glock trigger is a compromise. It stays in the holster safely, and comes out of the holster ready to fire. Many consider a single action to be dangerous if stored in the holster cocked and with the safety off. The Glock style trigger also helps prevent accidental discharge in a tense situation. It's also a more "idiot proof" design. Less fumbling with hammers and safeties. IMHO, it's more useful for fast response situations, such as law enforcement, where ease of use, speed of deployment, and safe handling are primary concerns.

There is a trade off of course, which is a longer trigger pull and unusual trigger design. The longer pull reduces accuracy, although training can help compensate for that. The "double" trigger safety design puts extra stress on the crease of the fingertip, which can cause chafing and irritation in long practice shoots.

I had a few jams with it at first while feeding. A quick polish of the feed ramp cured that issue. Other than that, it is an exact replica of the Colt 1911 and works as well as one. I have big hands so I love how it fits in them. I used to own a Walther PPK which I could hide behind my hand and always found it a little clumsy to hold. Oh, and for you 007 fans.......the PPK has about a 2 1/2 inch long barrel, so those long shots 007 used to make with his, complete and total BS. At 15 yards you couldn't count on placing all 6 shots in a 1 foot circle. At 25 to 50 yards, you'd be lucky to even hit paper.......LOL. They're more of a "close up and personal" firearm.

I watched my brother practice some of his "quick draw" technique. He would stand about 10 to 15 yards away and draw/shoot. I would have to say one can easily get the Glock out and into action faster than mine since there is no hammer to cock.

I did like the features of the hammer/safety system on the Glock. I felt very secure with it and wasn't worried about an accidental fire. My only complaint with the Glock was that it made my trigger finger sore........LOL The way the trigger on the Glock 22 worked was, once you fired it the first time, you hardly had to release the trigger at all to be ready to fire again. This was a nice feature too but took some getting used to. To be honest, I don't really think about what my trigger finger is doing. But I paid attention and after doing so for a magazine or two, got used to only having to release the trigger a 1/8 of an inch or so. But the amount of pressure required seemed high to me. Also, due to the design, the trigger is perhaps a little wider than I'm used to.

What you said about holstering a SA with the safety off and hammer cocked is VERY true. Even with the extra safety on the back of the grip, I would still never consider doing that. As soon as you grasped it, that last safety goes off and you're in danger of shooting yourself in the leg or foot. I always leave mine uncocked. In that aspect, the Glock definitely beats a SA. It's always ready to shoot but still safe in the holster.

I was down in Vegas in early April and took the opportunity to rent, and shoot, a fully auto........something you can't do here in Canada. I went to The Gun Store and did the WW II package. Got to fire the Thompson, the MP40 and a Sig 1911. I had a total blast (no pun intended)!

I envy you guys in the US. There's no chance of ever getting a permit to carry a concealed handgun here in Canada and due to the hideous gun laws.

[Kenyth]

The US Thompson and the German MP40 huh? That sounds like fun! How was it? I was in the military, so I got to fire a few assault rifles, grenades, and machine guns. I got to fire the M16A1, the M16A2, M249, the M60, and good old Ma Deuce (M2 Browning). I regret that I wasn't around for the implementation of the M16A4. It sounds like they finally got it right with that weapon. The M249 (5.56 Nato) had an extremely high rate of fire. You have to be careful when firing because it burns through ammo very quickly and gets quite hot. The M60 (7.62 Nato) seemed to have a much slower, albeit much more powerful rate of fire. The M2 has the slowest rate of fire, but man oh man what a cannon! I also got a chance to throw M33 grenades and fire an M203 grenade launcher with live ammo. A rare treat. My only gripe with the M203 was that I had to fire it right handed and I'm a leftie. I still qualified expert.

[UptownCigar]

I have many guns and enjoy shooting. Don't usually smoke when I am shooting, not that good of a multi-tasker. Love to talk about both though.
Bruce

[badwhale]

Welcome from Bitterville (maybe I should say a belated welcome)

Will

[CptnBlues63]

Not that I'm bragging but my wife loves me!

She bought me a $500.00 gift certificate for x'mas at an indoor range/gun shop in the big city. So I turned that (and a bit of cash) into a Ruger Mark III Hunter .22

My hunting partner and good friend owns two Mark I's and a (forget the brand name) single action .22/.22 magnum he brought when we went to pick mine up.

I bought a speed loader for his Mark I's last year and ordered one for myself and we blew through 1500 rounds in about 2 hours.

If you'll pardon the pun, we had a blast!

Now I really can't wait until spring is here and I can get down to my local outdoor range (safely) so I can really get some use out of this new toy.

[mail man]

Sweet deal, she really does love you.

[garryyjr]

I currently only have one gun. S&W Sigma 40VE. First gun I owned. Love it and love shooting it whenever I can. (wife is a better shot than me ... Stays on her side at night.. )

[nhcigarfan]

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[SmokingDuringMLS]

I own a Mosin Nagant M91/30, that has a bubba'd up paint job. Also a Saiga 7.62 that I am in the process of converting.

[dman4505]

I enjoy target shooting and deer hunting.
Hope to one day get out to Montana and do some elk hunting with my stepson.
I've got a Ruger P95 9mm, Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk 44 mag., CVA Elkhorn Pro Magnum 50 cal. muzzleloader and a Remington 30-06.

Don

[Day Drunk]

I am new to the forum and seen Gun Owning Smokers thread.

I have a few cigars thanks to my neighbor and fellow member on here "kingbeefy"
I also have a few Glocks (which imo are the best ;) Colt AR, Tac 870, and a M&P .357 snubbie
Don't shoot a lot just collect...hopefully I will collect a decent amount of cigars too

[badwhale]

I am new to the forum and seen Gun Owning Smokers thread.

I have a few cigars thanks to my neighbor and fellow member on here "kingbeefy"
I also have a few Glocks (which imo are the best ;) Colt AR, Tac 870, and a M&P .357 snubbie
Don't shoot a lot just collect...hopefully I will collect a decent amount of cigars too

Bad intro referencing KB. I give you 5 negative points for style, and vote for an immediate ban.

[CptnBlues63]

I am new to the forum and seen Gun Owning Smokers thread.

I have a few cigars thanks to my neighbor and fellow member on here "kingbeefy"
I also have a few Glocks (which imo are the best ;) Colt AR, Tac 870, and a M&P .357 snubbie
Don't shoot a lot just collect...hopefully I will collect a decent amount of cigars too

Hi and welcome to the board from Alberta, Canada.