best cigar tube length and width

**exodus125** · 09-21-2009, 02:23 PM

Hey guys, I recently made some titanium tubes and one of my buyers sugested I make them a little longer and wider to sell as cigar tubes. I was wondering what you guys would think is a good size to make these in. I wouldnt want to go too big because not everyone smokes really long and really wide cigars, but at the same time, I would like the cigar tube to fit the majority of cigar sizes. I would also like to know if most of you would prefer a "light as possible" cigar tube, or a "bomb proof" cigar tube. As of now, the tube's walls are 3mm thick. This is thick enough to withstand getting run over by a car. But, if I make the tubes 7" long, it may be a little heavy if the walls are left at 3mm. Let me know what you guys think, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Here are some pics of what they would look like as well:

those by the way, have these dimensions:

outside : 26mm x 145mm
inside: 20mm x 114mm
3mm thick walls
weight: 5.4 oz

**Eville** · 09-21-2009, 02:31 PM

Why not offer several sizes and let the customer decide which one they want? Ex. Churchill, robusto, toro, etc.

**Bluesmudge** · 09-21-2009, 02:33 PM

3mm seems excessive for a cigar tube. 1 or 2mm would be fine.

If you only want to make one size I would make it fairly large. Personally I like large ring guages, so it would be nice if the internal diameter was 1" that should fit all but the widest of cigars.

7" is also a good length. I don't own any cigars longer than 7" however the one's I smoke most often and would take with me are 6" or less. Thats just me though, it seems every cigar smoker is different in the sizes they prefer.

Can I ask what the tubes were originally designed for before you decided to also do cigar tubes? Also how much would these cost?

**nhcigarfan** · 09-21-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

Why not offer several sizes and let the customer decide which one they want? Ex. Churchill, robusto, toro, etc.

This sounds smart. Also, you could fuse two tube and make dual carriers. But if you want to make one tube, go 7 inchs and 54 ring gauge and it should handle most stiks.

Originally Posted by Bluesmudge

3mm seems excessive for a cigar tube. 1 or 2mm would be fine.

~snip

This sounds about right also, or offer a think and thin version.

I like the color also.

**exodus125** · 09-21-2009, 02:47 PM

thanks for the feedback guys.

These tubes can really be used for anything. They are known as stash cans, pill fobs, survival capsules, and so on. I made these big enought to fit 2 AA, 2 AAA or 2 CR123 batteries, but you can stash bills in them, matches, or anything else you dont want to get wet. A lot of people who collect flashlight and EDC (every day carry) items love these. I just thought it would be a good idea making these larger to sella s cigar tubes.

The current pieces I make I sell for $160. I charge $20 extra for the heat anodized finish.

So does anyone else agree with Bluesmudge that 3mm is a little excessive? (I agree with you by the way). However, there will always be some that would like them as bomb proof as possible.

I can make them any length, the probelm with that is that I would prefer to make them all in one length because they would be easier to make and even to sell. I don't like to make each one as an order comes in, I prefer to make batches of 10 or so, sell, then when im gettin low make some more.

Thanks for the help guys and keep the suggetions coming.

**Eville** · 09-21-2009, 02:54 PM

If I ever find myself in a situation where 1-2mm of titanium is insufficient to protect my cigar, I will probably not be too worried about a cigar. Although, soldiers might have a use for 3mm.

**mail man** · 09-21-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

If I ever find myself in a situation where 1-2mm of titanium is insufficient to protect my cigar, I will probably not be too worried about a cigar. Although, soldiers might have a use for 3mm.

I agree, if 1mm of titanium isn't enough, I should probably go home.

Keith

**exodus125** · 09-21-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

If I ever find myself in a situation where 1-2mm of titanium is insufficient to protect my cigar, I will probably not be too worried about a cigar. Although, soldiers might have a use for 3mm.

totaly agree with you, but some people do prefer bomb proof designs. That is why I decided to ask here what you guys as cigar smokers would prefer.

I am not too sure how strong a 1mm tube would be, (for example, if you sit on it, or drop it and then someone steps on it, would it get dented?). Last thing someone would want is to get a dent in a tube that cost them $160.

**Eville** · 09-21-2009, 03:19 PM

That is true, but then again, I would never spend $160 on a tube when I could buy a couple of boxes of cigars instead.

**exodus125** · 09-21-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

That is true, but then again, I would never spend $160 on a tube when I could buy a couple of boxes of cigars instead.

yep, agreed.

some people like fancy things though. Its priced good for what it is, titanium.

**FactoredReality** · 09-21-2009, 06:16 PM

Another option instead of multiple sizes would be a larger size with slide in adapter sleeves. Something that could hold say a 60gauge or you slide a 48 gauge choke in it and your good to go.

**Shelby07** · 09-21-2009, 09:19 PM

Wow. Prices must have really shot up recently. I have a device made out of Titanium that holds 6 rounds of .357 Magnum. Only cost me about $50 per "tube."

**nhcigarfan** · 09-22-2009, 08:53 AM

Yeah, at that price I would review what the other high end retailers are selling.

Don't get me wrong, it's cool looking. But I would probably just get an otterbox and a box of good cigars for that price.

See about adding a pocket clip, like on a pen, but make it fancy.

**MarineOne** · 09-22-2009, 10:34 AM

Seriously, $160 per tube ...... are you trying to keep safe so that the T-1000 can smoke them after the war?

Kris

**exodus125** · 09-22-2009, 10:50 AM

I appreciate all the feedback. Maybe these pieces have a very small market. Maybe they would not make good cigar tubes due to the price, but they are not over priced. Its hard to find anyone else who makes something similar to these in titanium and even then, the containers are alot smaller (about 1/3 the length and 1/2 the diameter) and there priced for over $100.

**badwhale** · 09-22-2009, 12:55 PM

I like Factored's idea about the inserts. I also agree with most everyone that I would prolly not spend 160 on a single cigar tube.

How about this: You prolly have all the tooling setup to pump those right out, why not just swap out some other materials, like Stainless or Aluminum, or even wood for that matter, and have an array of material configurations?

Will

**ggiese** · 09-22-2009, 02:23 PM

Stainless Steel Cigar Tube - Retail $20.00

Black Leather Cigar Tube - Retail $25.00

Silver Plated Cigar Tube - Retail $25.00

Stainless Steel Cigar Tube and Drinking Flask Set - Retail $19.95

Black Snakeskin and Italian Leather Cigar Tube - Retail $19.10

Sorry, my friend. Your tubes look very nice and all - and I'm sure there may be two or three willing to purchase them... But reality is that the most expensive cigar tube I can find is in the $60 range. You have nice stuff, but it's hard to compete against a whole bunch of very nice cigar tubes in the $20.00 price range...

**exodus125** · 09-22-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Stainless Steel Cigar Tube - Retail $20.00

Black Leather Cigar Tube - Retail $25.00

Silver Plated Cigar Tube - Retail $25.00

Stainless Steel Cigar Tube and Drinking Flask Set - Retail $19.95

Black Snakeskin and Italian Leather Cigar Tube - Retail $19.10

Sorry, my friend. Your tubes look very nice and all - and I'm sure there may be two or three willing to purchase them... But reality is that the most expensive cigar tube I can find is in the $60 range. You have nice stuff, but it's hard to compete against a whole bunch of very nice cigar tubes in the $20.00 price range...

Well, I didnt come in here to try to sell or try to justify the price on these things, I was merely looking for a suggestion on a length and width.

You are right, I can't compete with some mass produced (in most cases made overseas items). Even if I made mine out of aluminum or stainless steel, I wouldn't be able to compete.

doing a search for " titanium cigar tube" I found this:

http://www.absolutetitanium.com/orde...GARTUBE-OVALIA

price listes is $595.

I dont really want to start arguing here with anyone, like I said, I was merely looking for a good dimensions if I do decide to make these in a longer length. I do apprecaite all the comments and suggestions, even the "its too expensive" comments, unfortunately, I wouldnt be able to lower the price much if I wanted to make any kind of profit. Even if I did make the walls thinner, I would still end up using the same amount of material since these are machined from a soild piece of titanium.