Massachusetts cigar excise tax

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 04:08 PM

The most honorable Governor Deval Patrick has proposed
Raising the cigar tax from the current 30% to a whopping 110%.
I have come to the following conclusions.

1) The Commonwealth of Massachusetts is a gaping shit hole.
2) The Honorable Deval Patrick does not smoke cigars, but does take it in the ass.

**badwhale** · 02-12-2010, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy

The most honorable Governor Deval Patrick has proposed
Raising the cigar tax from the current 30% to a whopping 110%.
I have come to the following conclusions.

1) The Commonwealth of Massachusetts is a gaping shit hole.
2) The Honorable Deval Patrick does not smoke cigars, but does give it in the ass.

fixed that for ya

**Cigarbear** · 02-12-2010, 04:19 PM

Damn! I thought WA taxes were bad...

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by badwhale

fixed that for ya

Thank you,
I believe we are both right. Mr Patrick both pitches & catches.
In fact I think he is presently working a glory hole in P-town.

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 04:22 PM

The tax will be more that the cost of the cigar it's self !
It's just unbelievable!

**ndv21** · 02-12-2010, 04:30 PM

Solution, don't buy your cigars in MA. Online my friend. Sorry to hear about this.

**ashauler** · 02-12-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by ndv21

Solution, don't buy your cigars in MA. Online my friend. Sorry to hear about this.

And kill the local B/M's? Tobacconists have mouths to feed too.

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by ndv21

Solution, don't buy your cigars in MA. Online my friend. Sorry to hear about this.

I buy about 85% of my cigars online now. But nothing beats walking into a B&M and smelling the cigars , looking at them & maybe sitting down and having a smoke. I enjoy having a cigar at the local cigar lounge/ B&M.

**ashauler** · 02-12-2010, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy

I buy about 85% of my cigars online now. But nothing beats walking into a B&M and smelling the cigars , looking at them & maybe sitting down and having a smoke. I enjoy having a cigar at the local cigar lounge/ B&M.

As do I. My cigar budget is arranged at 75% online, 25% local.....the guy/gal looking at me across the counter and discussing the merits of different wrappers/fillers etc.....makes it worth it to me even though I get less cigars for the $$.

**ndv21** · 02-12-2010, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by ashauler

And kill the local B/M's? Tobacconists have mouths to feed too.

I agree, and it sucks because I am all about supporting the local economy. Hell, I buy most of my cigars at my local B&Ms knowing that I could save a few bucks online. But when I go to a store and I need to pay 16-18 bucks for a $7 stick....

...I would seldomly visit my B&M.

It is indeed a shitty time for the local tobacconists because the fact is, EVERYONE is hurting right now and this just adds fuel to the fire. Again, would I support my local B&M, of course, but probably not as often as I do now and even then, I would probably be buying yard gars instead of premium quality sticks.

Just my opinion.

**ndv21** · 02-12-2010, 05:00 PM

Walking into a B&M is part of a "ritual" for me personally. Like you all stated above, the smell, the variety, the conversations....hell, I have met some pretty cool folks while smoking a stick at a B&M! Its sad to see this happen. This whole deal just bums be out.

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by ndv21

I agree, and it sucks because I am all about supporting the local economy. Hell, I buy most of my cigars at my local B&Ms knowing that I could save a few bucks online. But when I go to a store and I need to pay 16-18 bucks for a $7 stick....

...I would seldomly visit my B&M.

It is indeed a shitty time for the local tobacconists because the fact is, EVERYONE is hurting right now and this just adds fuel to the fire. Again, would I support my local B&M, of course, but probably not as often as I do now and even then, I would probably be buying yard gars instead of premium quality sticks.

Just my opinion.

Look like the way things are headed in Mass, even a yard gar will cost you $12.00

**Cigarbear** · 02-12-2010, 05:26 PM

I like the couple of B&Ms still left after the smoking ban went into effect a few years ago. No smoking inside or within 25 feet of a business entrance unless you're walking. The only exception are the Indian casinos. I still buy from them but only singles and generally when I want to try a new stick without buying a bunch. When I can buy 8-10 sticks for the price of a box online it definitely cuts down on the local purchases.

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cigarbear

I like the couple of B&Ms still left after the smoking ban went into effect a few years ago. No smoking inside or within 25 feet of a business entrance unless you're walking. The only exception are the Indian casinos. I still buy from them but only singles and generally when I want to try a new stick without buying a bunch. When I can buy 8-10 sticks for the price of a box online it definitely cuts down on the local purchases.

The indians have NO JUICE here in good'ol MA.
They have been trying to get a casino for years with no luck.
They just outlawed dog racing. It's cruel to the dogs.
BUT !!!! if you have 10 kids , no job & no idea who your baby daddy is.
Ma is a great place to live. they will provide everything for you.
House, food, utilities & free health care. All aboard the welfare express

**EdgeMan** · 02-12-2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy

The most honorable Governor Deval Patrick has proposed
Raising the cigar tax from the current 30% to a whopping 110%.

Bums me out from down here!
I agree with everyone though, I still support my local B&M even after joining here and then I started purchasing more online about the same time I joined CS. I still support the locals though. it is indeed nice to go inside and shoot da shit and have a smoke, however , if they take it too far we will find "cigar bars" that most people bring there own smokes in! It will be a sad day.

Edge.. Donald (Identity crisis)

**craig** · 02-12-2010, 09:19 PM

Ah, Mass. Boston is the American city that is most, well, Canadian :-).

Now you'll have similar prices :rofl:

**Smoked!** · 02-12-2010, 09:56 PM

That's sick.

I believe we Americans threw an oppressive regime out of Boston once before over unfair taxation... mid-1770's I think...

**Paddy** · 02-12-2010, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Smoked!

That's sick.

I believe we Americans threw an oppressive regime out of Boston once before over unfair taxation... mid-1770's I think...

What is fucked up is - I can't VOTE. I'm a green card guy.

**MarineOne** · 02-12-2010, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy

What is fucked up is - I can't VOTE. I'm a green card guy.

Well a little time can fix that, so it's not that much of a problem.

Unfortunately the only true fix is to eliminate only one party.

The party of the incumbent.

We need term limits. It's time for new ideas and new perspectives, not this nanny state garbage coming to us from across the pond. It's time we had actual innovation, and not this pipe dream of hope and change.