P.I.F Thread

[Eville]

Ghurkha -2.75
El Mejor - 2.75
5-Vegas - might just barely make the minimum if you sent the most expensive vitola.

You failed to even meet the explicitly stated minimum criteria of the pass, much less the the spirit of the pass. As far as I am concerned, you still owe Will his pass.

[ashauler]

4 of the 5

Gurhka Symphony, El Mejor Emarld, Man O War and 5 Vegas Gold

For posterity.

ok.. Point proven. Maybe I was checking a wrong source for pricing.

Man o war..? I forget the 5th one.

Why would you have to check a source for pricing? Didn't you buy these sticks....couldn't you just check the receipt? Wait, these wouldn't be gifted sticks or sumptin' would they?

[garryyjr]

Ghurkha -2.75
El Mejor - 2.75
5-Vegas - might just barely make the minimum if you sent the most expensive vitola.

You failed to even meet the explicitly stated minimum criteria of the pass, much less the the spirit of the pass. As far as I am concerned, you still owe Will his pass.

ok.. Point proven. Maybe I was checking a wrong source for pricing.

Man o war..? I forget the 5th one.

[garryyjr]

For posterity.



Why would you have to check a source for pricing? Didn't you buy these sticks....couldn't you just check the receipt? Wait, these wouldn't be gifted sticks or sumptin' would they?

One was a gifted one. The others I bought in samplers. I don't buy boxes yet.

The one gifted I already had.. Not my taste. I seen good about it so on to the next.

[mrtr33]

One was a gifted one. The others I bought in samplers. I don't buy boxes yet.

The one gifted I already had.. Not my taste. I seen good about it so on to the next.

You just don't get it. What's worse, you SAY that you get it, when every post you make screams otherwise.

So, you view this P.I.F. as a way to offload smokes you don't like? Is that what you think paying it forward is all about? "Here, Will. I thought this was a shit stick, but I bet you, a distinguished member on this board who has obviously smoked cigars before, are going to love it."

What is it exactly about the Saint Luis Rey that you can't seem to remember sending?

To spell this out for you, this pass is about paying it forward - thus the cleverly named title. Pass along smokes that you yourself enjoy. If you can't do that, then don't fucking play. If you don't know what qualifies, then do your homework. This isn't about sending high $ sticks, but it's not about disposing of shit you don't want to smoke, either.

Again, you don't get it.

[badwhale]

Here was the first red flag for me.

Being a newbie, that's what these freebies are for. I can try as many cigars as i can and get my experience up.

This mentality, in a nutshell, told me you area mooch who’s only concern is himself, and what you can get. For clarification, because I do this often with my 3yr old, “get” is the opposite of “give.” It helps her understand opposites, and enforces the individual meanings.

I absolutely don’t want Gary to send me any more smokes, or anyone else for that matter. I went into this with a self fulfilling prophecy, that Gary would fuck this up, and he did. From the PIF itself, to this laundry list of arrogant responses.

Me being a “dick?” Maybe. If that’s true, I can accept that, however I felt I owed it to the board to get this in the light, rather than side PMs and keep it on the DL.

For discussion, here’s a picture of the PIF received. Normally, I agree that this is a distasteful measure, but to cut down on the static here, I feel it is now necessary:



St Luis Rey ~ Rothschilde
El Mejor Emerald ~ Toro
Man O’ War ~ Corona
5 Vegas Gold ~ Toro
Gurkha Symphony ~ Robusto (I guess)

I sat down last night, for maybe 10 minutes and priced this out, solely using CI as the source. Out of the 5, the MOW was the only one that could be considered as a candidate to meet the PIFs requirements (and lemme guess, that was the gifted one.) A generous assessment of the others places them all at the lowest end of the $$$ range spectrum spelled out in the rules. No research was done on Gary’s part to see what my favored vitolas, brands, lines, smoke origins etc. Basically, no effort was put into this PIF.

And, to conclude, even the ziplock was open when I unpacked the box.

Will

[EGQ]

One fucking Padron and all of this could have been avoided...

[cigarsarge]

It's pretty clear what needs to happen here...garryjr needs to send Will another package. If not he is a nothing more than a scamer and he will be dealt with accordingly.

This type of behavior will not be tolerated here.

The ball is in his court...I expect this to be made right in a week.

[Paddy]

here was the first red flag for me.



This mentality, in a nutshell, told me you area mooch who’s only concern is himself, and what you can get. For clarification, because i do this often with my 3yr old, “get” is the opposite of “give.” it helps her understand opposites, and enforces the individual meanings.

I absolutely don’t want gary to send me any more smokes, or anyone else for that matter. I went into this with a self fulfilling prophecy, that gary would fuck this up, and he did. From the pif itself, to this laundry list of arrogant responses.

Me being a “dick?” maybe. If that’s true, i can accept that, however i felt i owed it to the board to get this in the light, rather than side pms and keep it on the dl.

For discussion, here’s a picture of the pif received. Normally, i agree that this is a distasteful measure, but to cut down on the static here, i feel it is now necessary:



st luis rey ~ rothschilde
el mejor emerald ~ toro
man o’ war ~ corona
5 vegas gold ~ toro
gurkha symphony ~ robusto (i guess)

i sat down last night, for maybe 10 minutes and priced this out, solely using ci as the source. Out of the 5, the mow was the only one that could be considered as a candidate to meet the pifs requirements (and lemme guess, that was the gifted one.) a generous assessment of the others places them all at the lowest end of the $$$ range spectrum spelled out in the rules. No research was done on gary’s part to see what my favored vitolas, brands, lines, smoke origins etc. Basically, no effort was put into this pif.

And, to conclude, even the ziplock was open when i unpacked the box.

Will

yikes!

[garryyjr]

It's pretty clear what needs to happen here...garryjr needs to send Will another package. If not he is a nothing more than a scamer and he will be dealt with accordingly.

This type of behavior will not be tolerated here.

The ball is in his court...I expect this to be made right in a week.

How does that make me a scamer?

Nothing was intentional..

[ashauler]

How does that make me a scamer?

Nothing was intentional..

It doesn't. It makes you a scammer. I don't even know what a scamer is.

ETA: Do you like badminton?

[garryyjr]

See.. He spelled it wrong too.. But I get the bashing.

Told ya

[ashauler]

See.. He spelled it wrong too.. But I get the bashing.

Told ya

Bullshit, it is spelled correctly in every post in this thread.
You suck at answering questions einerlock. Do you like badminton or not?

[mrtr33]

How does that make me a scamer?

I don't know how it could be explained to you any plainer.

Nothing was intentional..

Bullshit. Again, why, because YOU say so?

See.. He spelled it wrong too.. But I get the bashing.

Told ya

Nice. The one guy that could possibly be on your side, and you correct him. Nice job.

You're not getting a bashing because of your constant spelling and/or grammatical mistakes. You're getting bashed because you're a POS scamming mooching little bitch. NOTHING you can say can convince us otherwise. Not sending Will a new package (which he doesn't want), not picking up Ash's trade (which he won't accept from you), not participating in the PPPIV. You're a chew toy now. No one is going to trade with you - no one will deal with you*. When we get bored of attacking your every post, you'll be banned.

*Except for maybe fishy - he hates us, and he might be your friend.

[ashauler]

When we get bored of attacking your every post, you'll be banned.

I'm already bored, but not with this......for some reason I don't think all is known about our dear friend einerlock.

[ggiese]

gaaarrrryyyy apparently likes to also post at "realsexadvice" and "chubbyparade"...

Nice!!!

I wonder if you get any "benefits" of membership from the "FOG's" at either place!!!

[craig]

Thank-you Will.

[garryyjr]

Well, it seems to me that, in the interest of fairness, there should be a way for the dumbass to make good on his error.

I offered to buy some sticks..

I really don't see how providing a new package would be better..

I am staying away from ANY exchange. I will continue to post as I do and I do expect to get harassed.

Nothing I can do to... Get my rep up but time.

All I can do is give you my word.. I am not trying to mooch nor scam. I do see how I came across that way.

[EGQ]

I offered to buy some sticks..

I really don't see how providing a new package would be better..

I am staying away from ANY exchange. I will continue to post as I do and I do expect to get harassed.

Nothing I can do to... Get my rep up but time.

All I can do is give you my word.. I am not trying to mooch nor scam. I do see how I came across that way.

Get your head out of your ass. You fuck up, you try to blame us for not helping you and you seem to think you're going to get your "rep up" somehow... Even the most dim-witted ass-hats that have have come strolling thru here would know that you make it right -- you don't ask if you should make it right -- you put on your big-boy pants, accept responsibility and do everything in your power to make it right.

And if you haven't figured it out yet, your word is shit, and I seriously doubt you'll ever have another opportunity to prove to any of us that you aren't a mooch or scammer.

Post all you want -- I'd personally prefer to not have to see any of your posts in the future, but I'm just a guest on this fine board.

[garryyjr]

Get your head out of your ass. You fuck up, you try to blame us for not helping you and you seem to think you're going to get your "rep up" somehow... Even the most dim-witted ass-hats that have have come strolling thru here would know that you make it right -- you don't ask if you should make it right -- you put on your big-boy pants, accept responsibility and do everything in your power to make it right.

And if you haven't figured it out yet, your word is shit, and I seriously doubt you'll ever have another opportunity to prove to any of us that you aren't a mooch or scammer.

Post all you want -- I'd personally prefer to not have to see any of your posts in the future, but I'm just a guest on this fine board.

Im glad to hear what you think. Thanks