“Smoking cigars as an art form"

**buzz** · 07-19-2010, 10:47 PM

(I am not being sarcastic in this post - I know, that is strange for me)

Perhaps I am just too worn out from a crazy Monday and so my compassion level is too high here, but...

I think you guys might be beating up on her a little too much. I mean, she is posting in almost the correct area (she went for "accessories", and one could say that artwork involving cigars is an accessory). I also think that she may be using an online translator to make her posts (and read ours) - so there is a slight communication issue. Her first post made me want to reach for a hammer, but realizing that she is an artist, and perhaps doesn't understand the English language enough to see how this forum works, maybe we should give her a slight pass on that. Also, let's take into consideration her age and background. It appears that she is around 50 and grew up in Cuba, which might mean that she is not all that computer savvy, and the internet might be fairly new to her (granted she has an Ebay page, but then again, so does my aunt - who thinks that myface, spacebook, and metube are "internet houses").

I don't know, maybe I just can't pick on women who are at the age of 50... reminds me too much of my mom I guess. If she were a man, or if she were in her 20's or 30's I would think differently about this. I can't stand public art - it ticks me off to no end - and that crappy scribble garbage that you see in the galleries, which any 3 year old could make is not worth the thousands that they ask for it. But I do appreciate the small town artists, who make very little money, and try hard to get their work noticed, usually to no avail.

Daysi, your artwork does look great - but I am no artist, and am easily impressed, so my opinion counts for just about nothing. If your intent here is to be a part of this forum, you need to have a friend help you with the translations and back off with the chauvinistic nonsense. If your intent is only to market your paintings, that is fine - but you need to post in the "Advertisements" section. Good luck with your artwork, your daughter looks lovely and she is lucky to have a mom like you.

-Buzz

ETA: Meh, maybe I am being too soft... I guess I am 50-50 on this one.

**Paddy** · 07-20-2010, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by buzz

(I am not being sarcastic in this post - I know, that is strange for me)

Perhaps I am just too worn out from a crazy Monday and so my compassion level is too high here, but...

I think you guys might be beating up on her a little too much. I mean, she is posting in almost the correct area (she went for "accessories", and one could say that artwork involving cigars is an accessory). I also think that she may be using an online translator to make her posts (and read ours) - so there is a slight communication issue. Her first post made me want to reach for a hammer, but realizing that she is an artist, and perhaps doesn't understand the English language enough to see how this forum works, maybe we should give her a slight pass on that. Also, let's take into consideration her age and background. It appears that she is around 50 and grew up in Cuba, which might mean that she is not all that computer savvy, and the internet might be fairly new to her (granted she has an Ebay page, but then again, so does my aunt - who thinks that myface, spacebook, and metube are "internet houses").

I don't know, maybe I just can't pick on women who are at the age of 50... reminds me too much of my mom I guess. If she were a man, or if she were in her 20's or 30's I would think differently about this. I can't stand public art - it ticks me off to no end - and that crappy scribble garbage that you see in the galleries, which any 3 year old could make is not worth the thousands that they ask for it. But I do appreciate the small town artists, who make very little money, and try hard to get their work noticed, usually to no avail.

Daysi, your artwork does look great - but I am no artist, and am easily impressed, so my opinion counts for just about nothing. If your intent here is to be a part of this forum, you need to have a friend help you with the translations and back off with the chauvinistic nonsense. If your intent is only to market your paintings, that is fine - but you need to post in the "Advertisements" section. Good luck with your artwork, your daughter looks lovely and she is lucky to have a mom like you.

-Buzz

ETA: Meh, maybe I am being too soft... I guess I am 50-50 on this one.

Buzz,
You should be canonized for sainthood IMHO

My last post was the result of a fine mixture of Percocet & Don Julio. Cheers

**daysiartpainter** · 07-20-2010, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by buzz

(I am not being sarcastic in this post - I know, that is strange for me)

Perhaps I am just too worn out from a crazy Monday and so my compassion level is too high here, but...

I think you guys might be beating up on her a little too much. I mean, she is posting in almost the correct area (she went for "accessories", and one could say that artwork involving cigars is an accessory). I also think that she may be using an online translator to make her posts (and read ours) - so there is a slight communication issue. Her first post made me want to reach for a hammer, but realizing that she is an artist, and perhaps doesn't understand the English language enough to see how this forum works, maybe we should give her a slight pass on that. Also, let's take into consideration her age and background. It appears that she is around 50 and grew up in Cuba, which might mean that she is not all that computer savvy, and the internet might be fairly new to her (granted she has an Ebay page, but then again, so does my aunt - who thinks that myface, spacebook, and metube are "internet houses").

I don't know, maybe I just can't pick on women who are at the age of 50... reminds me too much of my mom I guess. If she were a man, or if she were in her 20's or 30's I would think differently about this. I can't stand public art - it ticks me off to no end - and that crappy scribble garbage that you see in the galleries, which any 3 year old could make is not worth the thousands that they ask for it. But I do appreciate the small town artists, who make very little money, and try hard to get their work noticed, usually to no avail.

Daysi, your artwork does look great - but I am no artist, and am easily impressed, so my opinion counts for just about nothing. If your intent here is to be a part of this forum, you need to have a friend help you with the translations and back off with the chauvinistic nonsense. If your intent is only to market your paintings, that is fine - but you need to post in the "Advertisements" section. Good luck with your artwork, your daughter looks lovely and she is lucky to have a mom like you.

-Buzz

ETA: Meh, maybe I am being too soft... I guess I am 50-50 on this one.

You have a good point, right half missed half . English is not my first language. How can I improve my writing? There are some excellent resources an internet world. I read english good, I don't speak frecuently because I live in miami but I try to learn it. My daugther has 17 years all and born in USA and sometimes she help me with some word or some phrases, Do you want the truth? Some times I look for the translation in AltaVista, but this traslation isn't appropiate and traslation mistakes or cloud the meaning of any part of the text, the next step is to search is look for that subject in another Link to improve it, There are just a Daysi , a woman to like cigars world and love the art. Is There a crime? I'm architect , I studied french and portugues. I only wish to surpass myself.

In relation to using this forum like " Free advertising , it is not my intention. We have a tobacco store in Tampa and Art Shop in Miami and I open recently an Ebay storage like an additional option for the international tourism .I hope that it is clear my intentions and bash and personal attacks stop .

" To be educated to be free"

“Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you. Love me and I may be forced to love you.”

**cigarsarge** · 07-20-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by daysiartpainter

We have a tobacco store in Tampa

Is it in Ybor City...I've been to most of the cigar stores there. Which one is yours? Do you know a guy named Guado? He is pretty big in the cigar-pipe scene in the Tampa Area.

**daysiartpainter** · 07-20-2010, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

Is it in Ybor City...I've been to most of the cigar stores there. Which one is yours? Do you know a guy named Guado? He is pretty big in the cigar-pipe scene in the Tampa Area.

Is not Guado is Yanko ( is my son ) and the Stores name's is Tabanero Cigars . I appreciate your comments .

Daysi

**mrtr33** · 07-21-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by daysiartpainter

You have a good point, right half missed half . English is not my first language. How can I improve my writing? There are some excellent resources an internet world. I read english good, I don't speak frecuently because I live in miami but I try to learn it. My daugther has 17 years all and born in USA and sometimes she help me with some word or some phrases, Do you want the truth? Some times I look for the translation in AltaVista, but this traslation isn't appropiate and traslation mistakes or cloud the meaning of any part of the text, the next step is to search is look for that subject in another Link to improve it, There are just a Daysi , a woman to like cigars world and love the art. Is There a crime? I'm architect , I studied french and portugues. I only wish to surpass myself.

In relation to using this forum like " Free advertising , it is not my intention. We have a tobacco store in Tampa and Art Shop in Miami and I open recently an Ebay storage like an additional option for the international tourism .I hope that it is clear my intentions and bash and personal attacks stop .

" To be educated to be free"

“Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you. Love me and I may be forced to love you.”

This would have been a great intro post. Welcome from Hell. Nice art. In regards to your poll, are those your preferred brands? Look into some box splits here or even the Newbie Sampler Thread in the Exchange section of the forum.

**daysiartpainter** · 07-21-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

This would have been a great intro post. Welcome from Hell. Nice art. In regards to your poll, are those your preferred brands? Look into some box splits here or even the Newbie Sampler Thread in the Exchange section of the forum.

For me "Rocky Patel "

Daysi

**badwhale** · 07-21-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by daysiartpainter

For me "Rocky Patel "

Daysi

Daysi,

Threadjacking your own thread isn't a good idea if you want to get out of the woods here.

Will

**kevin7** · 07-21-2010, 04:47 PM

My previous comment stands

**daysiartpainter** · 07-21-2010, 05:54 PM

QUOTE=badwhale;154724]Daysi,

Threadjacking your own thread isn't a good idea if you want to get out of the woods here.

Will[/QUOTE]

Remember that I don't have any experience in this kind of forum. Some smaller mistake can be forgiven. My question about over rated is not for generate an additional subject, just than my husband and me have different opinions on this matter.

Thank you for your advice

Daysi