Camacho Liberty 60/40 Amendment XII

[ggiese]

I don't really care to get in a debate over the validity of their claim, I was just throwing that out there as a source. What I do know, is that the Camacho 1962 PE I smoked this summer was outstanding. Cuban or not, it was a damn good cigar that I would buy again in a heartbeat.

By "throwing that out there as a source", don't you think that qualifies you as being involved in the "debate"? After all - it appears by doing so you're supporting what saviour is posting, dontcha think?

[Eville]

Not so much debating as much as just stating my position and moving on.

Edit: However, it did prompt me to do some more searching. I came across this interview with Christian Eiroa. He claims " When we purchased Camacho Cigars in 1995, there were 5 bales of old Cuban Tobacco from the DWG Cigar Company from Lima, Ohio. After this company was purchased by American Cigar, they liquidated their inventory.
It was Mr. Pedro Martin who sold this tobacco to Simon Camacho. We never knew why he never used it all. We then set those bales of tobacco aside and use them for very special projects such as the Camacho Liberty cigars and the Camacho 1962 Pre – Embargo."
http://www.cigar.com/newsletter/archive.asp?a=090507

Take it however you want.

[Xavier]

I have been told Cuban tobacco is much stronger and a bit more harsh on the palate.

I hope when I have this stogie, its no overwhelming.

[ggiese]

Not so much debating as much as just stating my position and moving on.

Edit: However, it did prompt me to do some more searching. I came across this interview with Christian Eiroa. He claims " When we purchased Camacho Cigars in 1995, there were 5 bales of old Cuban Tobacco from the DWG Cigar Company from Lima, Ohio. After this company was purchased by American Cigar, they liquidated their inventory.
It was Mr. Pedro Martin who sold this tobacco to Simon Camacho. We never knew why he never used it all. We then set those bales of tobacco aside and use them for very special projects such as the Camacho Liberty cigars and the Camacho 1962 Pre – Embargo."
http://www.cigar.com/newsletter/archive.asp?a=090507

Take it however you want.

Thanks for providing that information. I would have loved to have had that conversation with Christian Eiroa the last time I talked to him. Five bales of tobacco, spread across all of the Amendment cigars that have been produced, would be spreading the tobacco pretty thin even under the best circumstances. However - anyone who knows Christian would know it's not in the least bit surprising that he would do something like this. He loves marketing his cigars and likes to find unique ways of distinquishing them from others...

Saviour - don't get too worked up about "tasting" the Cuban tobacco in those cigars. Even the most discerning palate would have difficulting distinquishing that the Cuban tobacco's been rolled into them.

[Xavier]

I should have thought of that. It doesn't take a genius to realize they would have to spread the cuban tobacco pretty thin in each stogie for it to have lasted this long.

[ashauler]

I should have thought of that. It doesn't take a genius to realize they would have to spread the cuban tobacco pretty thin in each stogie for it to have lasted this long.

Cover your eyes, the light-bulbs are coming on.

[TachyCoventry]

For a review, the 2 sentences on the cigar that the post is based on was interesting. Thank you for all the insight.

[Xavier]

Cover your eyes, the light-bulbs are coming on.

And my mind only works on halogen lights. It would be safe to put on goggles.

[badwhale]

And my mind only works on halogen lights. It would be safe to put on goggles.

Duhhhh...me think he try say that he smart...doi!

[ggiese]

Cover your eyes, the light-bulbs are coming on.

Very, very dim. Too dim to be of consequence, at this point.

[Eville]

Saviour - don't get too worked up about "tasting" the Cuban tobacco in those cigars. Even the most discerning palate would have difficulting distinquishing that the Cuban tobacco's been rolled into them.

This is very true.

[badwhale]

There's serveral reviews of Camacho Liberty on this forum. I remember enjoying the one I had, although I remember learning later that it was purported to have pre-embargo tobacco in it.

I think it's probably true they roll a tiny bit into each cigar. Eventually it will be gone. Do I cream myself at the thought of smoking pre-embargo tobacco? No. Do I think it's a gimmick? Yes.

Will

[Xavier]

There's serveral reviews of Camacho Liberty on this forum. I remember enjoying the one I had, although I remember learning later that it was purported to have pre-embargo tobacco in it.

I think it's probably true they roll a tiny bit into each cigar. Eventually it will be gone. Do I cream myself at the thought of smoking pre-embargo tobacco? No. Do I think it's a gimmick? Yes.

Will

I will concede that the pre-embargo part its a gimmick, but that does not take away from the quality of the other tobacco in it.

[ggiese]

I will concede that the pre-embargo part its a gimmick, but that does not take away from the quality of the other tobacco in it.

Now that you know the facts about the pre-embargo tobacco - you're saying it's a fine cigar in it's own right??? Given you have experience with the only 30 or so cigars you've smoked, I'd say your depth of experience is pretty thin. Seriously, sparky - do you honestly believe your opinion is in any way credible?