Cohiba Espledidos Authentic Cigars in Sealed Box

[webworm13]

Actually, there isn't a "story" I' am trying to hold together. What I have said in regards to how the cigars have been obtained has been true from the start. Just to provide more details, it took my cousin's husband all day to track these down as they are not easy to come by. All retail establishments are government owned and I imagine most of these cigars are destined for the export market. My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them.

I have offered to send you one of these for free for you to try and you haven't accepted, thus it is obvious that you are intent on torpedoing my sale. For what reason I do not know, but all I can assume is that you are extremely cynical or upset that you haven't ever made it to Cuba to try one of these yourself in person.
I do not need suggestions on giving money to my family. Just for your information, I actually had to leave the payment for the cigars under a plate on the table without her seeing because she didn't want to accept any money.

[ashauler]

Actually, there isn't a "story" I' am trying to hold together. What I have said in regards to how the cigars have been obtained has been true from the start. Just to provide more details, it took my cousin's husband all day to track these down as they are not easy to come by. All retail establishments are government owned and I imagine most of these cigars are destined for the export market. My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them.

I have offered to send you one of these for free for you to try and you haven't accepted, thus it is obvious that you are intent on torpedoing my sale. For what reason I do not know, but all I can assume is that you are extremely cynical or upset that you haven't ever made it to Cuba to try one of these yourself in person.
I do not need suggestions on giving money to my family. Just for your information, I actually had to leave the payment for the cigars under a plate on the table without her seeing because she didn't want to accept any money.

Hey, fucknuts, the foul language is here now. How about you take those fake dido's and shove them right back up your ass where you pulled this story from.

[webworm13]

Hey, fucknuts, the foul language is here now. How about you take those fake dido's and shove them right back up your ass where you pulled this story from.

Have some decency my friend. You are not worthy of smoking one of these cigars so good riddance. I wouldn't expect a cigar smoker to be so low class.

[ashauler]

Have some decency my friend. You are not worthy of smoking one of these cigars so good riddance. I wouldn't expect a cigar smoker to be so low class.

Then your expectations are obviously out of whack, friend. Good riddance? Am I going somewhere?

[TachyCoventry]

Actually EGQ is an established and respected member of this forum. I think that you should actually send him a cigar and let him determine the authenticity of the sticks. If not, fuck off. As everyone has said, Craigslist was made for shit like this. You'll probably get $500 for them on there!

[ggiese]

Actually, there isn't a "story" I' am trying to hold together. What I have said in regards to how the cigars have been obtained has been true from the start. Just to provide more details, it took my cousin's husband all day to track these down as they are not easy to come by. All retail establishments are government owned and I imagine most of these cigars are destined for the export market. My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them.

I have offered to send you one of these for free for you to try and you haven't accepted, thus it is obvious that you are intent on torpedoing my sale. For what reason I do not know, but all I can assume is that you are extremely cynical or upset that you haven't ever made it to Cuba to try one of these yourself in person.
I do not need suggestions on giving money to my family. Just for your information, I actually had to leave the payment for the cigars under a plate on the table without her seeing because she didn't want to accept any money.

The "obvious attempt to torpedo the sale" comes from an acknowledgement that the cigars came from, "My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them." You might not smoke cigars, but you know enough about "my cousin's husband" to know that what you have in your possession more likely than not came from a shady backroom deal. That being said, is it is much more likely than not that the cigars are counterfeit - and would be of questionable quality.

To Ed's (EGQ) point - Trying to sell items of questionable quality and authenticity at a board populated with individuals with the capacity to understand is insulting.

While David Hannum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute!", you won't find tolerance for that nonsense here. To some earlier points that were made - try to sell that crap on Craig's list.

[Corvin]

I'm going to guess that the cigars in the picture are real.

That said, I'm also going to guess that webworm13 doesn't actually posses the cigars in the picture.

If webworm13 would like to prove that he has the cigars then simply post a new picture, one that we can see you, holding a copy of today's edition of the local newspaper, and a note with your usename and the site name.

If you can do that I'd pickup the sealed box for $150, you pay shipping.

[ggiese]

I'm going to guess that the cigars in the picture are real.

Hey - I can show you pictures of cigars and other "real" things too!

That said, I'm also going to guess that webworm13 doesn't actually posses the cigars in the picture.

If webworm13 would like to prove that he has the cigars then simply post a new picture, one that we can see you, holding a copy of today's edition of the local newspaper, and a note with your usename and the site name.

I can also make you a "real" picture of webwormdude holding whatever you'd like him to hold!

If you can do that I'd pickup the sealed box for $150, you pay shipping.

Buy 'em off of Craig's List - I'm "torpedoing" this sale.

[buzz]

Let's see a picture of the worm holding the box of cigars and wearing a hat with a daisy on it - then we'll know he's legit.

-Buzz

[mrtr33]

....or you, in a tiger costume, eating a donut, on a unicycle, bouncing a beach ball on your head holding an autographed photo of Kirstie?

[buzz]

....or you, in a tiger costume, eating a donut, on a unicycle, bouncing a beach ball on your head holding an autographed photo of Kirstie?

I'll spend my lunch hour working on it...

-Buzz

[webworm13]

I'm going to guess that the cigars in the picture are real.

That said, I'm also going to guess that webworm13 doesn't actually posses the cigars in the picture.

If webworm13 would like to prove that he has the cigars then simply post a new picture, one that we can see you, holding a copy of today's edition of the local newspaper, and a note with your usename and the site name.

If you can do that I'd pickup the sealed box for $150, you pay shipping.

Sorry, but I don't have a copy of today's newspaper handy and don't plan to go to the store to get one. I will post some more pictures for all to see. I cannot take any less than $200.00 because I initially thought there were only 12 in the box and it turns out now that there are actually 25. Actually, if I do end up posting these for sale somewhere else, I will be asking substantially more than $200.00 because I see now how much they are really worth when a bunch of cigar connoisseurs are so doubtful that these are even real. I guess it is not easy for foreigners to come by these and I was blessed with the good fortune to be sold these by my cousin at a reasonable price. I will be posting more pictures and I am on my way to the post office to send EGQ his cigar as promised in a nice Cohiba leather case all free of charge. I will be sending it with a delivery confirmation number as well. I would expect EGQ to attest as to the authenticity of the cigars as well as my fulfillment of my promise to deal honestly. In return, I will expect him to purchase the entire box for $200.00 as he has stated he will do. I am willing to wait a few days to sell them to him at that price unless I get a better offer from someone else. I would also expect an apology from all those who have scorned and ridiculed me for no other reason than lack of trust and cynicism.

[CoventryCat86]

I am on my way to the post office to send EGQ his cigar as promised in a nice Cohiba leather case all free of charge. I will be sending it with a delivery confirmation number as well. I would expect EGQ to attest as to the authenticity of the cigars as well as my fulfillment of my promise to deal honestly. In return, I will expect him to purchase the entire box for $200.00 as he has stated he will do. I am willing to wait a few days to sell them to him at that price unless I get a better offer from someone else. I would also expect an apology from all those who have scorned and ridiculed me for no other reason than lack of trust and cynicism.

And if he smokes the cigar and determines it's fake then he is under no obligation to give you $200.00 for a box of fake cigars. You agree to those terms, right sparky?

I would also expect an apology from all those who have scorned and ridiculed me for no other reason than lack of trust and cynicism.

And I expect the skies to open and drop a billions dollars worth of gold bullion in my back yard this afternoon.

tapeworm13, I don't know you or anything about you and I don't trust you at all. Get used to it.

[webworm13]

And if he smokes the cigar and determines it's fake then he is under no obligation to give you $200.00 for a box of fake cigars. You agree to those terms, right sparky?



And I expect the skies to open and drop a billions dollars worth of gold bullion in my back yard this afternoon.

tapeworm13, I don't know you or anything about you and I don't trust you at all. Get used to it.

Of course, if it is a fake then he doesn't have to pay me. I can't make him pay me anyways and truth be told, I don't think he would pony up and pay the $200 even if he KNEW they were real. This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

[EGQ]

Of course, if it is a fake then he doesn't have to pay me. I can't make him pay me anyways and truth be told, I don't think he would pony up and pay the $200 even if he KNEW they were real. This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

Surely if I KNEW they were authentic Cohiba Esplendidos I would gladly pony up and pay the $200. I'll do you one better -- if I like them but doubt their authenticity, I'll still buy the box.

Surely you understand where we are coming from by now. We don't take kindly to folks just dropping in and trying to sell goods that they now admit are as likely to be counterfeits as they are to be authentic.

I've smoked my fair share of legit Cubans, could I pick a real and a fake in a blind taste test? -- well, I guess that depends on how bad the fake is... I'll give the stick an honest once over and post my opinion here for all to see. Like it or not, my contention that it is more likely than not that they aren't authentic is still proper.

Just so I can properly asses the cigar -- when was it acquired? Has it been properly stored?

[CoventryCat86]

This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

Just a suggestion, maybe you ought to drop the attitude.

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

I'll take your bet, how much are you going to bet me that "many" can't tell the difference between a real and a fake? Just about anyone who has smoked Cuban cigars before can immediately tell the difference between real Cuban cigars and fake Cuban cigars.

As you just admitted, you don't know what you're talking about anyway so why do you continue to act like such an asshole?

[buzz]

This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

If you send a free one to ashauler, cigarsarge, CoventryCat, and ggiese with a fancy leather Cohiba cigar holder each and they smoke them and say that they are real then I'll buy the box off you.

Call my bluff?

-Buzz

[ggiese]

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

Does your ignorance have no bounds? Seriously, tapeworm - I wouldn't take that bet if I were you.

[webworm13]

The "obvious attempt to torpedo the sale" comes from an acknowledgement that the cigars came from, "My cousin's husband is well connected and probably due to this, he was fortunate enough find them." You might not smoke cigars, but you know enough about "my cousin's husband" to know that what you have in your possession more likely than not came from a shady backroom deal. That being said, is it is much more likely than not that the cigars are counterfeit - and would be of questionable quality.

To Ed's (EGQ) point - Trying to sell items of questionable quality and authenticity at a board populated with individuals with the capacity to understand is insulting.

While David Hannum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute!", you won't find tolerance for that nonsense here. To some earlier points that were made - try to sell that crap on Craig's list.

I am not trying to sell any items of questionable quality. The cigars are in a sealed box as you can see from the picture. All because the cigars were obtained through what you call a "shady backroom deal" doesn't mean they are of questionable quality. Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else so unless you have traveled there before and bought cigars, I am going to ask you not speak of what you know nothing of. It is just as likely that the cigars are authentic as they are counterfeit and sometimes you have to take people's word for it. All I can attest to is that the cigars came from my cousin in Cuba and her husband brought two sealed boxes to give me before my departure. Now whether they bought these at some place that sells counterfeit cigars in a backroom, I do not know for sure, but he is my family member, and I am going to assume they are real as they have a seal with a guarantee. I trust my cousin and if you don't trust the story, than simply don't buy or make an offer. Even if they were counterfeit, I am asking a reasonable price. If I were asking $500.00 and trying to sell these as if I were a cigar establishment dedicated to selling Cuban Cigars, I would understand all of the skepticism and negativity. Because there may be doubts that these are real or not, that is why I am asking only $200 shipped to CONUS.

[CoventryCat86]

I am not trying to sell any items of questionable quality. The cigars are in a sealed box as you can see from the picture. All because the cigars were obtained through what you call a "shady backroom deal" doesn't mean they are of questionable quality. Most cigars as well as other goods in Cuba are obtained by friends or family members or someone who knows someone else so unless you have traveled there before and bought cigars, I am going to ask you not speak of what you know nothing of. It is just as likely that the cigars are authentic as they are counterfeit and sometimes you have to take people's word for it. All I can attest to is that the cigars came from my cousin in Cuba and her husband brought two sealed boxes to give me before my departure. Now whether they bought these at some place that sells counterfeit cigars in a backroom, I do not know for sure, but he is my family member, and I am going to assume they are real as they have a seal with a guarantee. I trust my cousin and if you don't trust the story, than simply don't buy or make an offer. Even if they were counterfeit, I am asking a reasonable price. If I were asking $500.00 and trying to sell these as if I were a cigar establishment dedicated to selling Cuban Cigars, I would understand all of the skepticism and negativity. Because there may be doubts that these are real or not, that is why I am asking only $200 shipped to CONUS.

The likelihood that these cigars are real is virtually zero.

You've been told why.

You're never going to sell them here so it would probably be best to stop wasting your time.

Craig's List is a haven for scammers and thieves so should fit right in.