Bhk 54s real or fake

[garryyjr]

Not sure about everyone else, but it'd be more fun to play the guessing game with these:












Just my two pennies

Yes, better this way to play.

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[craig]

We play this game a lot less now.

The black cardboard box that the Behike box came in has all of the usual Habanos seals in all of the usual places. (The date code and factory code are on a sticker, but in their usual fonts, and the sticker is in the usual place.) The current guarantee seal has numerous anti-counterfitting measures which can be verified with a magnifying glass and a fluorescent light (if you don't have a UV light).

Yes, all of the above stuff is simple, but almost all fakes screw up one or more of the above. Those that don't are the good fakes (typically from Spain or the Canary Islands), but those now usually fail on the new seal code. The new seal code (usually 13 digits) can be verified on the Habanos.com website. When the code is entered on the website, the website displays the cigar and packaging info for the box.

Note that these checks don't even involve looking at cigars or opening the box, but start with these as anytime these fail or can't be verified ("I threw out the box") then, as always, caveat emptor.

[ggiese]

There is no way in heaven, hell or otherwise someone could give you a definitive answer as to the legitimacy of those cigars based upon that picture you've provided.

That being said - I suggest you be very skeptical they are legit. Craig gives some great first blush advice to detect about 90% of the current fakes. You should have a person with a wealth of knowledge on Cuban cigars eliminate about another 5% of the imposters. Regardless, you're still likely to be fooled by about 5%...

Good luck with your quest!

[ashauler]

We play this game a lot less now.

The black cardboard box that the Behike box came in has all of the usual Habanos seals in all of the usual places. (The date code and factory code are on a sticker, but in their usual fonts, and the sticker is in the usual place.) The current guarantee seal has numerous anti-counterfitting measures which can be verified with a magnifying glass and a fluorescent light (if you don't have a UV light).

Yes, all of the above stuff is simple, but almost all fakes screw up one or more of the above. Those that don't are the good fakes (typically from Spain or the Canary Islands), but those now usually fail on the new seal code. The new seal code (usually 13 digits) can be verified on the Habanos.com website. When the code is entered on the website, the website displays the cigar and packaging info for the box.

Note that these checks don't even involve looking at cigars or opening the box, but start with these as anytime these fail or can't be verified ("I threw out the box") then, as always, caveat emptor.

Wait, are those in the photo yours Craig?

[craig]

Wait, are those in the photo yours Craig?

What? Huh? Sorry, I was distracted by the post-orgasmic glow of the least-endowed of the three.

Um, no, not my photo or my cigars. Sorry for the verb confusion. I was just going by what I have, and what I have seen elsewhere. Cohiba packaging sometimes uses different sticker placements and/or additional stickers and/or some on the box and some on the outer box, but the Behike packaging does not AFAIK, and places all stickers on the outside cardboard box in the usual places.

There are some differences in the other packaging inside of the Behike box, but my point, I guess, is to know these things before you buy a cigar with such a premium price, and have a good relationship with your vendor.

Just had a quick look at Craigslist (no relation ) and the presumed-fake Behike's are out there, with very nice-looking bands. No boxes yet, so these are probably all cigars brought back from tourists who went to Cuba.

My off-the-top-of-my-head-guess is that the same outfit that pushed out the PSD4 and (IIRC) EL fakes a couple years ago (and resulting in all kinds of sh*t in online forums) are pushing out Behike's now. A large dealer has posted elsewhere that he has been offered cases of Behike's. This is beyond the scope of most producers of fakes. I'd be very careful buying these things.