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    Quote Originally Posted by Swif View Post

    Waxing moon has clearly not responded as what was expected. I gave him plenty of time. Thank you fo
    I found waxing Moon at CA. I also seen his work at BOTL. I did not seen any bad commits about his work. All his work looked good and mostly on CA the people raved about their humidors from him. So I felt with the research on those two forums he was a good builder. then I get the humidor, give him a chance to make right, then request a refund and I am here. The difference now is I am talking about and if this cause no one to buy humidors from him that is his fault. I am still out the money, but others will not have to face what I did. If people think I am full of shit then can supper Ed and maybe I get my money back. So if I am a sucker then be it. but this sucker is try to help get the information out of the poor humidor builder that other seem to protect on the forums. So hang me for looking out for others.
    swif - unfortunately, you hung yourself. This is not an issue that you were ripped off because you received something other than what was advertised. Waxing moon has made it clear he's a "hobbiest" woodworker trying to make a few bucks off his hobby - not a professional humidor maker. He clearly is trying to build his skills at the expense of his customers. Because people are lining up (including you) to buy his humidors, should be no reason for you now to take issue with waxing moon over what you expected. It is a hand built humidor, made of exotic woods. Sorry it turned out to be an opaque diamond when you expected flawless.

    truth be known - everyone at one time or another made a similar bad choice. It would be awfully nice for wm to make it right with you, but it appears he does not have the cash flow to make that happen.

    if it makes you feel any better - my father, a life long woodworker (carpenter) said he could not produce what waxing moon made. Despite its flaws, he thinks it's a decent specimen.

    I have no idea who waxing moon is, other than he made about a dozen posts here several years ago. What I'm now reading is interesting - and reinforces why I like to chase the amateur humidor builders off this board when they try to setup their lemonade stand. You've confirmed what I suspected several years ago - I will never buy a humidor from him. Thanks for the heads up...

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    Since WaxingMoons is a member here, it might be interesting to get his side of the story. I honestly have no recollection of WaxingMoons here but I may have been too quick to condemn him based only on swift's side of the story.

    Someone ought to get him to come over here and show him this thread. If he wants to take issue with any of swift's statements, it might be a good idea for him to do just that.
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    I don't know Swif. I don't know anything about the company he/she ordered a humidor from. I don't know anything about said humidor. However, from reading a very recent post I do know Ole Swiffey is full of shit. Too much good stuff going on in this forum for you to stink it up. Go Away!

    If its too early for a newb like me to call someone out...sorry. I hate liars and cheats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    swif - unfortunately, you hung yourself. This is not an issue that you were ripped off because you received something other than what was advertised. Waxing moon has made it clear he's a "hobbiest" woodworker trying to make a few bucks off his hobby - not a professional humidor maker. He clearly is trying to build his skills at the expense of his customers. Because people are lining up (including you) to buy his humidors, should be no reason for you now to take issue with waxing moon over what you expected. It is a hand built humidor, made of exotic woods. Sorry it turned out to be an opaque diamond when you expected flawless.

    truth be known - everyone at one time or another made a similar bad choice. It would be awfully nice for wm to make it right with you, but it appears he does not have the cash flow to make that happen.

    if it makes you feel any better - my father, a life long woodworker (carpenter) said he could not produce what waxing moon made. Despite its flaws, he thinks it's a decent specimen.

    I have no idea who waxing moon is, other than he made about a dozen posts here several years ago. What I'm now reading is interesting - and reinforces why I like to chase the amateur humidor builders off this board when they try to setup their lemonade stand. You've confirmed what I suspected several years ago - I will never buy a humidor from him. Thanks for the heads up...
    Unfortunately Ed has made this his full time job with a shop and other workers. He has buyers at other forums to keep him in business. I would have had not problem if he just fixed the concerns I had when he said he would. My goal was to bring this out to others looking to him for builds. There are some people that have had the same problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    Since WaxingMoons is a member here, it might be interesting to get his side of the story. I honestly have no recollection of WaxingMoons here but I may have been too quick to condemn him based only on swift's side of the story.

    Someone ought to get him to come over here and show him this thread. If he wants to take issue with any of swift's statements, it might be a good idea for him to do just that.

    That would be great for him to comment on any of the post I have made. He can fell free to post any email I have sent him.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreekTitan View Post
    I don't know Swif. I don't know anything about the company he/she ordered a humidor from. I don't know anything about said humidor. However, from reading a very recent post I do know Ole Swiffey is full of shit. Too much good stuff going on in this forum for you to stink it up. Go Away!

    If its too early for a newb like me to call someone out...sorry. I hate liars and cheats!

    Point out any post that I am lying in. Like you I hate a cheat and a liar. The worst is someone not keeping there word. Next someone making false statement on a subject they have no idea about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlinliss View Post
    Respectfully, "attacking the messenger" does not change the information being offered. The photos [poor as they are] show SOMETHING is wrong. And someone taking >$1000 has an obligation to fairness, and no matter how much of a day is spent doing one thing or another.

    Actually anyone taking ANY MONEY has an obligation to provide a decent product, at a minimum 'built to minimum industry standards'.

    A lid that does not lay flat, flaws in the finish, glue residue, trays made 'un-square' is WRONG!!! The maker should make good his workmanship out of pride and integrity. No one is perfect, but failing to 'do the best to make good' is inexcuseable.

    I wish the buyer had come to me. Frankly I RESENT vendors offering so called 'quality' Humidors delivering amature workmanship. Learn your craft 1st, and then take orders. Thats the RIGHT WAY!

    I am offering to inspect the Humidor and make 'correctable' repairs as need FREE !!!! Just ship it to me.

    Alternatively I will give you $1160 credit [what you paid] toward a humidor from me if it proves to be un-repairable.

    Cigar Humidors have been my passion and I have poured my heart and soul into them. Humidors should be 'the temple' that your prized Cigars rest in.

    FWIW here is how I complete a Humidor

    swif - no need to do any further research on ArlinLiss...

    It is too bad more folks don't live with this kind of personal code of integrity - but it is far easier to be mediocre than expending the effort.

    Waxing Moon is very much standing out in multiple online cigar communities for his "workmanship". All by his own doing, it will not be long before he will not be able to collect high $$$ for one of creations. I'm quite sure, as others have before him, he'll fade into obscurity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arlinliss View Post
    Respectfully, "attacking the messenger" does not change the information being offered. The photos [poor as they are] show SOMETHING is wrong. And someone taking >$1000 has an obligation to fairness, and no matter how much of a day is spent doing one thing or another.

    Actually anyone taking ANY MONEY has an obligation to provide a decent product, at a minimum 'built to minimum industry standards'.

    A lid that does not lay flat, flaws in the finish, glue residue, trays made 'un-square' is WRONG!!! The maker should make good his workmanship out of pride and integrity. No one is perfect, but failing to 'do the best to make good' is inexcuseable.

    I wish the buyer had come to me. Frankly I RESENT vendors offering so called 'quality' Humidors delivering amature workmanship. Learn your craft 1st, and then take orders. Thats the RIGHT WAY!

    I am offering to inspect the Humidor and make 'correctable' repairs as need FREE !!!! Just ship it to me.

    Alternatively I will give you $1160 credit [what you paid] toward a humidor from me if it proves to be un-repairable.

    Cigar Humidors have been my passion and I have poured my heart and soul into them. Humidors should be 'the temple' that your prized Cigars rest in.

    FWIW here is how I complete a Humidor
    And that is integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arlinliss View Post
    Respectfully, "attacking the messenger" does not change the information being offered. The photos [poor as they are] show SOMETHING is wrong. And someone taking >$1000 has an obligation to fairness, and no matter how much of a day is spent doing one thing or another.

    Actually anyone taking ANY MONEY has an obligation to provide a decent product, at a minimum 'built to minimum industry standards'.

    A lid that does not lay flat, flaws in the finish, glue residue, trays made 'un-square' is WRONG!!! The maker should make good his workmanship out of pride and integrity. No one is perfect, but failing to 'do the best to make good' is inexcuseable.

    I wish the buyer had come to me. Frankly I RESENT vendors offering so called 'quality' Humidors delivering amature workmanship. Learn your craft 1st, and then take orders. Thats the RIGHT WAY!

    I am offering to inspect the Humidor and make 'correctable' repairs as need FREE !!!! Just ship it to me.

    Alternatively I will give you $1160 credit [what you paid] toward a humidor from me if it proves to be un-repairable.

    Cigar Humidors have been my passion and I have poured my heart and soul into them. Humidors should be 'the temple' that your prized Cigars rest in.

    FWIW here is how I complete a Humidor
    That's very generous of you, Arlin. Good play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arlinliss View Post
    Respectfully, "attacking the messenger" does not change the information being offered. The photos [poor as they are] show SOMETHING is wrong. And someone taking >$1000 has an obligation to fairness, and no matter how much of a day is spent doing one thing or another.

    Actually anyone taking ANY MONEY has an obligation to provide a decent product, at a minimum 'built to minimum industry standards'.

    A lid that does not lay flat, flaws in the finish, glue residue, trays made 'un-square' is WRONG!!! The maker should make good his workmanship out of pride and integrity. No one is perfect, but failing to 'do the best to make good' is inexcuseable.

    I wish the buyer had come to me. Frankly I RESENT vendors offering so called 'quality' Humidors delivering amature workmanship. Learn your craft 1st, and then take orders. Thats the RIGHT WAY!

    I am offering to inspect the Humidor and make 'correctable' repairs as need FREE !!!! Just ship it to me.

    Alternatively I will give you $1160 credit [what you paid] toward a humidor from me if it proves to be un-repairable.

    Cigar Humidors have been my passion and I have poured my heart and soul into them. Humidors should be 'the temple' that your prized Cigars rest in.

    FWIW here is how I complete a Humidor
    Thank you for this WONDERFUL offer. This shows that you truly care about the cigar community and all that are in it. I will pm you.

    that fact that you would take someone else work and make it right at your own expense is amazing and shows what kind of great person you are. I could never except a $1160 credit from you because some else has done wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    swif - no need to do any further research on ArlinLiss...

    It is too bad more folks don't live with this kind of personal code of integrity - but it is far easier to be mediocre than expending the effort.

    Waxing Moon is very much standing out in multiple online cigar communities for his "workmanship". All by his own doing, it will not be long before he will not be able to collect high $$$ for one of creations. I'm quite sure, as others have before him, he'll fade into obscurity...
    I definitely got off on the wrong foot here and other forums talking about the issue I have. As you stated, "It is too bad more folks don't live with this kind of personal code of integrity". The point I was making with the humidor was Ed does not have this quality or I have yet to see.

    I can say I received an email from him stating he has a few project in the works and he should be able to settle with me soon. I have heard this for some time know. so me posting on all the forums has got him to reach out at least.

    Sorry for getting off on the work foot with you all.
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    Ed of Waxing Moon has posted on another forum his reasoning and why he has had problems with resolving my concern along with the others that have had problems with his work. I only post to be far to him and allow those that are interested to view his reply at CP. I am trying to allow for those to read his side of the story. If you don't care then please do not post a reply about how stupid I am. I could care less what your thoughts are. Allow those who are interested to read with out detraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swif View Post
    I definitely got off on the wrong foot here and other forums talking about the issue I have. As you stated, "It is too bad more folks don't live with this kind of personal code of integrity". The point I was making with the humidor was Ed does not have this quality or I have yet to see.

    I can say I received an email from him stating he has a few project in the works and he should be able to settle with me soon. I have heard this for some time know. so me posting on all the forums has got him to reach out at least.

    Sorry for getting off on the work foot with you all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swif View Post
    Ed of Waxing Moon has posted on another forum his reasoning and why he has had problems with resolving my concern along with the others that have had problems with his work. I only post to be far to him and allow those that are interested to view his reply at CP. I am trying to allow for those to read his side of the story. If you don't care then please do not post a reply about how stupid I am. I could care less what your thoughts are. Allow those who are interested to read with out detraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badwhale View Post
    This is how you get back on the "right foot"?
    This is to allow those who care to see Ed's side of the story that is it.
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    Just replied back to pm sent to me. I am think of auctioning of to Wounded Soldiers Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swif View Post
    Just replied back to pm sent to me. I am think of auctioning of to Wounded Soldiers Foundation.

    Whoopie!
    Why because no one in thier right mind will buy it from you for $1000.00?
    I don't think anyone gives a damn anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    Whoopie!
    Why because no one in thier right mind will buy it from you for $1000.00?
    I don't think anyone gives a damn anymore.
    I give a damn that Arlin stepped up, and any proceeds from this goes to a good cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badwhale View Post
    I give a damn that Arlin stepped up, and any proceeds from this goes to a good cause.
    I give a damn about Arlin as well, In fact I PMed Arlin letting him know that Swif while giving the illisione of accepting his offer still had it for sale on other forums. I also feel that wounded soldiers is a very good cause.
    What I don't give a fuck about anymore is swif and his shit box humidor.
    joined multiple forumns with the only goal being to have a "PISS & Moan session about said humidor.
    Arlin is truly a stand-up guy. I would have told swif to go fuck himself a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    I give a damn about Arlin as well, In fact I PMed Arlin letting him know that Swif while giving the illisione of accepting his offer still had it for sale on other forums. I also feel that wounded soldiers is a very good cause.
    What I don't give a fuck about anymore is swif and his shit box humidor.
    joined multiple forumns with the only goal being to have a "PISS & Moan session about said humidor.
    Arlin is truly a stand-up guy. I would have told swif to go fuck himself a long time ago.
    Right on.
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