white house petition to legalize cuban cigars

**DavieJoe** · 01-03-2013, 01:57 AM

Good morning to all, My name is David. Im new to the forums here and wanted to start off with a good post. I have started a petition to allow for the importation and sales of Cuban cigars here in America. I was hoping if any one here shares in my idea, that you might be able to take a minute and sign the petition. I'll post a link here to the White House Petition sight (coolest thing the White House has done in a while, giving us an official petition sight!) If we get 25,000 signatures, they will give us an official response I posted the link on another cigar forum and unfortunately every one thinks im just a spammer and the link in bogus....its LEGIT! I found out about the web sight on the news when i heard that Texas and most other states had started petitions to secede from the US. Thank you all for your time ! keep puffin!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...igars/M6GFMtrX

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 02:05 AM

Seriously?

I don't think you're a spammer or your petition is not legit. I just think you're completely clueless...

Good luck with your quest, Don Quixote!

**DavieJoe** · 01-03-2013, 02:38 AM

i doubt you could give me one reason why im clueless.....Im a tax payer, a home owner and a business owner...I love America, and the freedom I am supposed to have...Give me one good reason as to your asinine reply, good luck.

**DavieJoe** · 01-03-2013, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Seriously?

I don't think you're a spammer or your petition is not legit. I just think you're completely clueless...

Good luck with your quest, Don Quixote!

Not to mention your obviously a moron, How many made in China items are in your house? Hypocrite.

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by DavieJoe

i doubt you could give me one reason why im clueless.....Im a tax payer, a home owner and a business owner...I love America, and the freedom I am supposed to have...Give me one good reason as to your asinine reply, good luck.

You're a "taxpayer"? Really? Well how about that! I've finally met one!!! LOL <for clarification purposes, because I'm most certain it will float well over your head - this is sarcasm>

Sorry I have to explain myself - it would seem on its face it is pretty clear why I'd say you were "clueless". You clearly are clueless if you believe getting cigar forum members to sign an online White House petition will lift the Cuban Embargo. I'm seriously hoping you get 25,000 to sign that petition so that you receive a "response". And - I hope you post that response for all of us to see...

"asinine reply"? Why - because you would take offense that someone would DARE challenge your "quest" to have Cuban cigars? Do you honestly think you're the first person who has tried to "petition" the government to lift the Cuban Embargo? President Obama - one of the most liberal presidents to take the White House - does not have a taste for lifting the Embargo. Hey Einstein - any clue as to why you think that is? I highly recommend you take that petition and do a door-to-door appeal in south Florida - particularly Miami. You might have a different appreciation as to why the embargo has been in place for nearly 60 years.

Originally Posted by DavieJoe

Not to mention your obviously a moron, How many made in China items are in your house? Hypocrite.

Oh, please... You know nothing about me, yet I'm a "hypocrite"? ...and you want to import Cuban cigars? Why not stick to cigars made in the US, mmm-kay?

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by DavieJoe

Good morning to all, My name is David. Im new to the forums here and wanted to start off with a good post. I have started a petition to allow for the importation and sales of Cuban cigars here in America. I was hoping if any one here shares in my idea, that you might be able to take a minute and sign the petition. I'll post a link here to the White House Petition sight (coolest thing the White House has done in a while, giving us an official petition sight!) If we get 25,000 signatures, they will give us an official response I posted the link on another cigar forum and unfortunately every one thinks im just a spammer and the link in bogus....its LEGIT! I found out about the web sight on the news when i heard that Texas and most other states had started petitions to secede from the US. Thank you all for your time ! keep puffin!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...igars/M6GFMtrX

Wanted to "start off" with a "good post". What happened after that?

**DavieJoe** · 01-03-2013, 04:34 AM

again you show your ignorance. I want anyone to have the ability to smoke a Cuban legally. And you start off with "I'm Clueless".....yet i know nothing about you?? I know your an ass hole, and an idiot who steals photos from other cigar forums ( a real shitty one at that, shows what kind of person you are). You sir, know nothing about me, not much about politics, business obviously or the Freedom of Choice....If this is an example of what kind of forum this is, I'll pass. Not much hope to be found in your lack of intelligence....Good Bye.

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by DavieJoe

again you show your ignorance. I want anyone to have the ability to smoke a Cuban legally. And you start off with "I'm Clueless".....yet i know nothing about you?? I know your an ass hole, and an idiot who steals photos from other cigar forums ( a real shitty one at that, shows what kind of person you are). You sir, know nothing about me, not much about politics, business obviously or the Freedom of Choice....If this is an example of what kind of forum this is, I'll pass. Not much hope to be found in your lack of intelligence....Good Bye.

Well -that's now two forums you've written off. You're not going to make your 25,000 signatures if you keep this up!!!

**DavieJoe** · 01-03-2013, 04:44 AM

Ill just canvas the local shops and REAL forum sites, now that i know this one is bullshit lol. You are doing your site a mis-justice by talking so much, no wonder you have so few members, you are a douche bag.

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by DavieJoe

Ill just canvas the local shops and REAL forum sites, now that i know this one is bullshit lol. You are doing your site a mis-justice by talking so much, no wonder you have so few members, you are a douche bag.

You're not somehow related to Michael Grauman, are you? He's from Texas too.

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:49 AM

...and you only need 24,998 more signatures by February 1st!!!

**ggiese** · 01-03-2013, 04:50 AM

we petition the obama administration to:

allow for the importation and sales of Cuban cigars.

We the people should be allowed the choice to buy a Cuban cigar. Via internet or in our local cigar shops. Not only does this embargo hurt the people of Cuba, but it is a violation of our American Rights not to be allowed the choice. You are given the right to sign an extension of the embargo, IN TIME OF WAR, which we are not in. We buy from china, last i heard they were communist as well...Stop allowing Big American tobacco companies the ability to bully our business and our choices. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY, OUR CHOICE. The people of Cuba could use the extra jobs, The Castro's are both in there 80's now, time to let it go.

You really need to get into international politics - you sure have your finger on the world's pulse!!!