A Question from a New Member

**gaminghousehits** · 08-19-2005, 03:38 PM

Hi Everyone,

Glad to be here.

I have been a long-time cigar smoker. I've smoked the best and the worst - the most expensive handmades and the cheapest machine mades.

This may sound crazy, but I really like the taste and smell of AyC natural dark cigars. However, I would prefer to smoke a handmade cigar that tastes and smells like the AyCs, rather than the Aycs with their machine-made tendency to come apart and leave me with tobacco flakes in my mouth. So, does anyone know of a handmade that tastes and smells like the variety of AyC called "natural dark"?

**mithril** · 08-19-2005, 11:47 PM

welcome to the board! as to your question, i haven't tried any machine made cigars and most here haven't either. so i'm not sure how many responces you will get about finding equivanlants.

just a question though, what kind of flavor do they have? if you can kind of explain what your looking for, i'm sure someone can suggest a wonderful cigar for you.

**Roham** · 08-20-2005, 03:36 AM

I can't really help with your question, but I can welcome you to the board

So Welcome

**jaewing** · 08-20-2005, 10:38 AM

WELCOME to CS. Enjoy our little corner of the world.

**Purobrat** · 08-20-2005, 11:32 AM

Have you tried Peach Optima's or Grape White Owls?

I suggest you try Onyx, Ashtons or Griffens. Very well made cigars with a lot of great flavor.

**ggiese** · 08-20-2005, 11:37 AM

I have had the AyC Grenadiers in the past - those were the first cigars I "liked". Then I was introducted to hand-rolled cigars.

The good news - damn near everything else you will smoke in "regular" cigars you will like - some more than others. In answer to your question - the tobacconist that showed me what a piece of crap the AyC werem told me to try the Montesino. It's a very reasonably priced hand rolled cigar, with a lot of the same tastes characteristics as the AyC's. I think that's a good place to start.

The rest is downhill from there.... Too many different cigars, not enough time....

And don't run out and get Onyx, Griffins or Ashton - they're great cigars but are on the more pricey side...