I won a bundle of RP Vintage 2nds from CI / CBid (still waiting for them) a while back. The CI catalog promises that the RP 2nds are REAL segundos whereas many other brands call them so but in reality they are "trainers". Trainers are always going to be made of crap, reject tobacco. It only makes sense. Why give the premium stuff to novice rollers to practice with?

I am always leary of 2nds but in this case (RP) I think they're legit.