Duplicate Accounts

[prophetic_joe]

Trusted period. Bill I know for some reason you seem to disagree with this but coming onto the forum under multiple names and acting like you are different people is lying. We're supposed to be a community of friends here but it taints that when you can't be sure who exactly you are talking to. It would be nice for the members here to know exactly what is going on o they can gain a level of that trust back. I really don't feel like socialising with people who can't be honest about who they are. Be real and truthful or just move the fuck along, that's my motto.

Disclaimer: This is not a finger pointing post by any means as I have no idea who the people with multiple accounts are.

[Hugh Jorgan]

I cannot tell a lie. I am.......








































not Ggiese, CoventryCat , Kevin7, Basil, Shag, or Hex.

[basil]

I cannot tell a lie. I am.......
not Ggiese, CoventryCat , Kevin7, Basil, Shag, or Hex.

Wait. That's not true. I'm . . . all of these. And more. I mean, I was diagnosed years ago with multiple personality disorder, and sometimes it's just so much fun, I go off my meds and off the grid. I'm sorry. .

[cigar no baka]

It seems to be a trend for you though.

Unfortunately, that seems to be his mission in life. Stir the pot, keep stirring the pot......

[SmokinDVM]

Unfortunately, that seems to be his mission in life. Stir the pot, keep stirring the pot......

Pot, meet kettle.

[SmokinDVM]

Who above? Hex? It's his board, he can do and say what he likes whenever he wants.

I wasn't referring to hex.
Try shag, you, joe, etc., etc.
Any comments are addressed in a pleasant manner. I make a "what's going on" post, and you all act like the world is ending.

Post the shitheels names that are using multiple handles and get it over with!

[cigarsarge]

I'm handling it in private for right now. I'll make a public statement when I see fit.

Are you going to log in and post every few days just to stir the pot?

This has drug out for entirely too long. Not ending this episode is some manner in the near future only fans the flames.

hex...You brought the matter before the board and solicited our input. You now have it. If you drag your feet any further it will not benefit the board.

If you prefered to handle it "in private" you should have never made it public.

[Dickson]

Here.....Here Sarge!!!!!

[Shagaroo]

hex...You brought the matter before the board and solicited our input. You now have it. If you drag your feet any further it will not benefit the board.

If you prefered to handle it "in private" you should have never made it public.

[nhcigarfan]

If someone else, like above, who rarely posts here shows up and makes a post it's for the good of the community, but if I do it, it's "stirring the pot"?

Who above? Hex? It's his board, he can do and say what he likes whenever he wants.

I wasn't referring to hex.
Try shag, you, joe, etc., etc.
Any comments are addressed in a pleasant manner. I make a "what's going on" post, and you all act like the world is ending.

Post the shitheels names that are using multiple handles and get it over with!

Huh? This doesn't make sense Barry. Shag, myself, Joe we don't "rarely post here"

Also, I fail to see where anyone acted like the world was ending.

[CoventryCat86]

Trusted period. Bill I know for some reason you seem to disagree with this but coming onto the forum under multiple names and acting like you are different people is lying. We're supposed to be a community of friends here but it taints that when you can't be sure who exactly you are talking to. It would be nice for the members here to know exactly what is going on o they can gain a level of that trust back. I really don't feel like socialising with people who can't be honest about who they are. Be real and truthful or just move the fuck along, that's my motto.

Disclaimer: This is not a finger pointing post by any means as I have no idea who the people with multiple accounts are.

Yes, I disagree completely and I don't see how it is "lying." I also fail to see where any "trust period" is violated. Are you saying that just because sid and others who have no idea what they're talking about are taking pot shots in the dark that you don't "trust" anyone here anymore? Okay, let's take me for example, I told you I created "the ox hole" as a "duplicate account" before there was any such policy against it. Does this mean you don't "trust" me anymore Nate? Does this mean you won't participate in a trade or a pass with me?

There's another board I'm active on where there's a guy who has two accounts and everyone who has been around that board for a while knows darn well what the guy is doing and we all think it's funny as hell. For those who don't know, I don't see how they are harmed in anyway whatsoever.

What cracks me up is the guy (sid) who started all the rumors here about "duplicate" accounts engages in the same exact thing over at Herfer's Paradise where he is bigpoppapuff and blkfrankwhite. sid also has FOUR accounts over at larrynj's place. I'd like to know from the shit stirrers here (like shelby) why they are whining at the top of their lungs here about this perceived problem (which none of them have any actual proof of... ) yet see nothing wrong with sid doing the same exact thing?

[Shelby07]

Damn that Shelby... stirrin' up all this shit again.

[SmokinDVM]

Huh? This doesn't make sense Barry. Shag, myself, Joe we don't "rarely post here"

Also, I fail to see where anyone acted like the world was ending.

How about shag? He rarely posts here, unless some shit is hitting the fan, but all of his opinions on this subject are somehow less shit-stirring than mine. Now I know it's a difficult concept, but try to follow along.


Nice work cc, on attacking bpp when he can't answer back.
How about this bill, on HP sid was banned as bpp. He signed back on as blkfrankwhite. He is NOT posting as both. Nice try at justification though.



Damn Shelby, you just can't stop stirring it up.

[mauied1101]

What cracks me up is the guy (sid) who started all the rumors here about "duplicate" accounts engages in the same exact thing over at Herfer's Paradise where he is bigpoppapuff and blkfrankwhite. sid also has FOUR accounts over at larrynj's place.

Whatever happened with Sid - it's over - so how about moving on from calling him out.

And irrespective of rumors (I don't know, and I don't care), Hex called out the duplicate accounts on this thread, so they're not rumors anymore.

[CoventryCat86]

Whatever happened with Sid - it's over - so how about moving on from calling him out.

And irrespective of rumors (I don't know, and I don't care), Hex called out the duplicate accounts on this thread, so they're not rumors anymore.

I'm not "calling (sid) out" I'm just stating facts. It is interesting and hypocritical that his fan club finds nothing wrong when sid does it but whine on endlessly when someone else may be doing it. THAT is the issue mauied.

What would be nice if shelby and others would "move on" don't you think?

[CoventryCat86]

Damn that Shelby... stirrin' up all this shit again.

Hey, if the shoe fits.....

I thought you were leaving?

[prophetic_joe]

Yes, I disagree completely and I don't see how it is "lying." I also fail to see where any "trust period" is violated. Are you saying that just because sid and others who have no idea what they're talking about are taking pot shots in the dark that you don't "trust" anyone here anymore? Okay, let's take me for example, I told you I created "the ox hole" as a "duplicate account" before there was any such policy against it. Does this mean you don't "trust" me anymore Nate? Does this mean you won't participate in a trade or a pass with me?

There's another board I'm active on where there's a guy who has two accounts and everyone who has been around that board for a while knows darn well what the guy is doing and we all think it's funny as hell. For those who don't know, I don't see how they are harmed in anyway whatsoever.

What cracks me up is the guy (sid) who started all the rumors here about "duplicate" accounts engages in the same exact thing over at Herfer's Paradise where he is bigpoppapuff and blkfrankwhite. sid also has FOUR accounts over at larrynj's place. I'd like to know from the shit stirrers here (like shelby) why they are whining at the top of their lungs here about this perceived problem (which none of them have any actual proof of... ) yet see nothing wrong with sid doing the same exact thing?

The reason the trust is broken is because nobody but the person using duplicate accounts knows who they are or the reasons they are doing it. This has nothing to do with Sid starting rumors, Hex was the one who brought all of this to light by saying that there were a few people with duplicate accounts. Hex then stated that there was someone who was still using duplicate accounts. The board has a right to know who this is. It is lying the same way that me giving you a call on the phone and pretending to be someone else would be lying.

Noun 1. lying - the deliberate act of deviating from the truth.

Lie: To utter falsehood with an intention to deceive; to say or do that which is intended to deceive another, when he a right to know the truth, or when morality requires a just representation.

If you are on this forum pretending to be someone you are not you are lying. If you lie you have then broken a trust. If every member knew that the duplicate account was had, like over at the other board you are active on, then that would be all well and good but that is not the case here. I'm fairly certain you are a member of the minority with your opinion on this one Bill, however you are entitled to your opinion, this is though supposed to be a member moderated board and the members seem to have spoken about wanting to know who has duplicate accounts and what those accounts are.

[CoventryCat86]

The reason the trust is broken is because nobody but the person using duplicate accounts knows who they are or the reasons they are doing it. This has nothing to do with Sid starting rumors, Hex was the one who brought all of this to light by saying that there were a few people with duplicate accounts. Hex then stated that there was someone who was still using duplicate accounts. The board has a right to know who this is. It is lying the same way that me giving you a call on the phone and pretending to be someone else would be lying.

Noun 1. lying - the deliberate act of deviating from the truth.

Lie: To utter falsehood with an intention to deceive; to say or do that which is intended to deceive another, when he a right to know the truth, or when morality requires a just representation.

If you are on this forum pretending to be someone you are not you are lying. If you lie you have then broken a trust. If every member knew that the duplicate account was had, like over at the other board you are active on, then that would be all well and good but that is not the case here. I'm fairly certain you are a member of the minority with your opinion on this one Bill, however you are entitled to your opinion, this is though supposed to be a member moderated board and the members seem to have spoken about wanting to know you has duplicate accounts and what those accounts are.

I still don't see how any "trust" is broken.By the way, you didn't answer my two questions which were:

Does this mean you don't "trust" me anymore Nate?
Does this mean you won't participate in a trade or a pass with me?

Yes, then he backed off of that statement with this:

Here is what I know: I found several duplicate accounts with matching IP addresses. Some of them were obviously accidental signups, no extra posts, no problem. I found a couple of iffy duplicates, but after looking closer at them, they haven’t been used in a while.

I did find 2 senior members with what appears to be blatant duplicate account usage. IP’s match, posting habits’ continued until very recently, etc. I contacted one of those members and got an explanation, the other one I’m trying to catch in the act (not enough concrete evidence). The person I did contact offered an explanation which I considered plausible. If he wants to come out and say something, he can.

Notice the "what appears" part of his statement? That definitely is NOT what you said that I highlighted in green above.

I disagree Hex has this policy:

PM me and we can handle the matter with out the drama.

and he's sticking to it. I don't have a problem with that, do you?

I'm confused by this statement because some people on the other board know about it while others don't and once again, I don't see any harm or betrayal by that person posting with duplicate accounts.

"you" or "who"

[prophetic_joe]

Bill it's pretty simple a trust is broken when someone begins lying. Pretending to be someone you aren't is lying, hence the broken trust.

Does this mean you don't "trust" me anymore Nate?
Does this mean you won't participate in a trade or a pass with me?

Both depend. Are you currently lying to me?

Notice the "what appears" part of his statement? That definitely is NOT what you said that I highlighted in green above.

He has not come back to relay his findings on he APPEARS to have found so therefore the members here can only make assumptions. This is yet another reason why this now needs to be dealt with publicly.

I disagree Hex has this policy:

PM me and we can handle the matter with out the drama.

and he's sticking to it. I don't have a problem with that, do you?

Yes I do have a problem with it. Hex brought the issue to the public light he now needs to handle it in public.

If you think you might fall under this new policy, then PM me and we can handle the matter with out the drama.

Notice the "New" part in this statement. This rule has been in effect for awhile now and everyone with duplicate accounts has had ample time to resolve the situation, considering the lentgh of time that has passed since the implimentation of this rule I don't believe the pm is enough any longer.

I'm confused by this statement because some people on the other board know about it while others don't and once again, I don't see any harm or betrayal by that person posting with duplicate accounts.

Again that person is purposefully lying to the members of a board to purposefully lie to someone is a betrayal and while the betrayal may not cause direct harm it does make having a true friendship quite a bit harder. I thought the people on this board were people I could count as friends, if we were true friends we wouldn't need to hide behind mutiple accounts.

"you" or "who"

That would be "who". I made a typographical error.

[Dickson]

With out all the quotes back and forth. My understanding is Hex said he would deal with this situation. However he chooses to deal with it, I will support.

However, if something s not done publicly my participation on this board will diminish. I have received an PM from a respected member of the board stating that he is leaving. How many other's are contamplating this? For valued members to leave or for any member to leave over duplicate accounts is a bit ironic, don't you think? Most every site I have been on duplicate accounts are a no-no without anything being said. Again, I'll not enter into an debate over this matter. Just stating an opinion.