Forbidden X and God of Fire

[BigMacFU]

I can get these for 38 and 32 respectively, I know this is way over MSRP, but I actually found a store with plenty in stock. If you want them at this disgustingly gouged price let me know if your that desperate, I'd charge only for shipping, paypal (unless MO), and cigars. It's on my way to work, so no biggy. Just letting you know what's out there, g'night everybody.

[grand cru no 2]

I am not that desperate.

[Bkcloud114]

WOW..... those have to be NYC prices

[BigMacFU]

Certainly are At the Davidoff store in Time Warner Bldg. BTW, I HATE THE F'IN MTA WORKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We make 55000 a year and get to retire at 55, we have a kindergaarten education, God, if they only had a clue.

[Bkcloud114]

Certainly are At the Davidoff store in Time Warner Bldg. BTW, I HATE THE F'IN MTA WORKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We make 55000 a year and get to retire at 55, we have a kindergaarten education, God, if they only had a clue.

Alot more to it than that Sean..... did ya know that after they retire if the leave the state of NY they lose all medical benefits..... Did ya also know that any new person hired under the new contract proposed by the MTA cannot retire until the age of 62..... It is called "Selling out the unborn".... Did ya also know that bus drivers cannot stop to use a bathroom, if they do and there bus is late, the get reprimanded.

I applaud the head of the TWU for not backing down to the MTA.....

Also.... under the "Taylor Law" each employee is going to be fined..... 2 days for every day they miss of work..... also the union is going to be fined 1 million dollars for every day there employees are on strike.

There is alot more to it than just money.......

[CoventryCat86]

Alot more to it than that Sean..... did ya know that after they retire if the leave the state of NY they lose all medical benefits..... Did ya also know that any new person hired under the new contract proposed by the MTA cannot retire until the age of 62..... It is called "Selling out the unborn".... Did ya also know that bus drivers cannot stop to use a bathroom, if they do and there bus is late, the get reprimanded.

I applaud the head of the TWU for not backing down to the MTA.....

Also.... under the "Taylor Law" each employee is going to be fined..... 2 days for every day they miss of work..... also the union is going to be fined 1 million dollars for every day there employees are on strike.

There is alot more to it than just money.......

WOW!!! Funny how the news stories aren't saying ANY of that. All they're doing is talking to the RIDERS who are naturally whining about being inconvenienced. I saw a huge news story tonight about it (seeing how it affects many people here in Connecticut, it was one of the top stories).

Thanks for the inside scoop Tommy

[cigarsarge]

I can't stop watching Tommy's sig tag. What was this thread about.

[BigMacFU]

Oh no, I have to work until I'm 62, poor me, who cares that everybody else in the country rarely has any kind of pension these days, works until they're at least 65, and oh yeah, they should see the deals UAW guys get, talk about getting screwed. Until the MTA workers are being screwed like the UWA's and getting paid as little, they've got nothing to complain about except little stuff like everybody does about their job. Sorry, no sympathy for MTA workers, most union people in this country don't have it half as good (except the teamsters in hollywood). Heck, most people who are college educated don't have it as good and they actually have an education. Sorry, I just cannot feel for these guys, they make well above the average American salary, get better health and medical than most people with college degrees and 75000/year jobs, have better pension plans than those same people, and oh yeah, still get paid overtime and so can make upwards of 75000/year. Like I said, the little stuff, bathroom breaks and stuff like that, right on, but that's little stuff, that's not strike worthy. Maybe if other unions with a lot more people and a lot harder of jobs that required a lot more training and skill had the benefits most MTA (I qualify most because there are MTA jobs that require a lot of training and skill, but usually these are outside contractors, though the MTA maintains a few master craftsmen) workers already get, and this wasn't enough, it wouldn't be a big deal. Finally, let's not forget about pilots who have one of the most difficult technical jobs and most dangerous jobs, their pensions have also recently been stripped to nothing. IOW, I agree that work conditions should be optimal, happy workers make for more efficient service. BUT, when it comes to pay, benefits, and pensions for these guys, most are unskilled laborers who make more than college graduates and receive better health and pension plans already. And why is working until 62 a big deal anymore (my uncle is still on the roof at 54, he doesn't cry like a baby), life expectancy (especially for the new workers who wouldn't get their pension until 62) is well over 80 years old.

Oh yeah, and as said before, if they were putting their lives on the line like Policemen, Firefighters, and other such union workers, absolutely, we should give them every demand they make. But they're not police officers or fire fighters, they don't put their lives on the line in the same way.

P.S. this is my thread, so it isn't a thread jack And Tommy, those are awesome deals on fuente products, if you get some, we may have to do some kind of trade

[cigarsarge]

I know how Sean feels. Where I work we can't get a raise. The local PD Sergeants make 36%more that Sergeants at my SO make. Our local County Comission is to blame as well as the Sheriff for not going to bat for us.

We are also on the bottom on the Tennesee Consolidated Retirement System. You have to work 30 years to get full retirement. That is 46% of your three highest years pay. That means I will be out there until I moss over.

I'm trying, along with several others to revive the local Deputy Sheriff's Association. There are about 220 sworn Deputies in my department, road deputies, jailers, and court room security. If we could reorganize that we could infulence votes and stand up for ourselves.

[BigMacFU]

And that's my point. MTA workers have a real sweet deal compared with the rest of the working, unionized world, so they should really quit complaining.