ken lay.....buh-bye...RIP...

[bigpoppapuff]

i guess he won't be going to jail...

[SmokinDVM]

Old "Kenny Boy" got better than he deserved. Shoulda had the heart attack while he was being ass-raped in prison. Now that woulda been justice.

[bigpoppapuff]

here's a quote from a right-wing (bircher) at HP....

I'm sure the far left will find a way to spin this that Bush was just helping his buddy out.....

where does lay's death become a right/left event??.........what an asshole...

[cigar no baka]

Old "Kenny Boy" got better than he deserved. Shoulda had the heart attack while he was being ass-raped in prison. Now that woulda been justice.

Have a little bit too much coffee this morning? As bad as I hate some on the left, I don't wish them any specific harm, I just wish they would STFU, go home and switch thumbs.

[Empire23]

could this have been a suicide?

[cigarsarge]

could this have been a suicide?

Interesting question...Pressure from going to prision could cause either.

I personally don't see how he lived with himself...One of the biggest thief's in recorded history.

[SmokinDVM]

Have a little bit too much coffee this morning? As bad as I hate some on the left, I don't wish them any specific harm, I just wish they would STFU, go home and switch thumbs.

I'll call hypocrite on this one. Typical rightie, preaches how the drug addled Rush, and the shemale Ann are telling it like it is when they spew hate, then turn right around and whimper foul when a liberal makes a valid point.

Besides, I wouldn't give a shit if it was Ghandi that screwed over so many people, I would have the same opinion.

He got away without adequate punishment after ruining thousands of peoples lives, so him and his buddies could make a few more bucks. He's a piece of shit, and deserved far worse than he got.

[cigarsarge]

He got away without adequate punishment after ruining thousands of peoples lives, so him and his buddies could make a few more bucks. He's a piece of shit, and deserved far worse than he got.

I did not wish him dead...But punished in the most severe manner the law allowed.

I wonder how many people died or got sick due to his deeds. How many lost their families and homes?

The guy was a POS.

[bigpoppapuff]

could this have been a suicide?

if it is/was...we'll never be told....

[cigar no baka]

I'll call hypocrite on this one. Typical rightie, preaches how the drug addled Rush, and the shemale Ann are telling it like it is when they spew hate, then turn right around and whimper foul when a liberal makes a valid point.

Besides, I wouldn't give a shit if it was Ghandi that screwed over so many people, I would have the same opinion.

He got away without adequate punishment after ruining thousands of peoples lives, so him and his buddies could make a few more bucks. He's a piece of shit, and deserved far worse than he got.

Nope. Lots of corporate scandals when Clinton was in office. Can we say Al Gore and Chicom contributions? The hypocrite label swings both ways.

[SmokinDVM]

Is any body else getting tired of the same old rightie "well Clinton did it" argument.

First, Clinton was investigated untill Starr was blue in the face, and all they could get for MILLIONS of dollars wasted was that nasty old blowjob.

I wonder why there's no investigations going on with regard to dumbya and darths illegal activities?

[JHarri31]

Is any body else getting tired of the same old rightie "well Clinton did it" argument.

First, Clinton was investigated untill Starr was blue in the face, and all they could get for MILLIONS of dollars wasted was that nasty old blowjob.

I wonder why there's no investigations going on with regard to dumbya and darths illegal activities?

Oh come on now...Bush can't sneeze w/o somebody accusing him of mishandling something. We as Americans may not always agree with what he does, but at least he does it within the confines of the law (at least as much as any of his predecessors). You find me a good democrat who has a plan other than "I'm not GW" and I'll think about voting for him, but until that day I'll stick with the party who isn't a bunch of whining babies w/o a clue.

Second. Clinton was/is a scumbag who who lied under oath, was impeached, and definitely could have been thrown out of office.

[JHarri31]

Now...as to the point of this thead. My bet is that he did commit suicide, the bastard, and I hope he enjoys the 7th circle of hell.

[cigar no baka]

Is any body else getting tired of the same old rightie "well Clinton did it" argument.

First, Clinton was investigated untill Starr was blue in the face, and all they could get for MILLIONS of dollars wasted was that nasty old blowjob.

I wonder why there's no investigations going on with regard to dumbya and darths illegal activities?

Anyone else getting tired of the sad old libbie line that "Republicans are EEEEEEEEEEEVIL, yes they are EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL, and maybe if I say it often enought people will start to believe it" said in a whiny, effete, intellectual snobbish lisp as they drink herbal tea and with their wheat germ? Get a new line, you're not convincing anyone

[SmokinDVM]

Anyone else getting tired of the sad old libbie line that "Republicans are EEEEEEEEEEEVIL, yes they are EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL, and maybe if I say it often enought people will start to believe it" said in a whiny, effete, intellectual snobbish lisp as they drink herbal tea and with their wheat germ? Get a new line, you're not convincing anyone

He says as he takes a swig of his beer, picks the lint out of his ass-crack, wrings the grease from his mullet, and plinks rats climbing around the shell of a car, with a #3 on the door, in front of his trailer.

[SmokinDVM]

Oh come on now...Bush can't sneeze w/o somebody accusing him of mishandling something. We as Americans may not always agree with what he does, but at least he does it within the confines of the law (at least as much as any of his predecessors). You find me a good democrat who has a plan other than "I'm not GW" and I'll think about voting for him, but until that day I'll stick with the party who isn't a bunch of whining babies w/o a clue.

Second. Clinton was/is a scumbag who who lied under oath, was impeached, and definitely could have been thrown out of office.

Accusations and investigations are two different things. With the present crooked neo-cons in power, no investigations can be started. Any other Congressional arrangement, and dumbya would have been impeached years ago.
It highlights the depth of corruption within the repug party. The 8 years of this admin, will go down as the most corrupt in history. And, the repugs will have done nothing to curtail it.

Oh, and you're right, lying about a bj is much worse than the violation of our Constitutional Rights by the present crooks in charge.

[JHarri31]

Accusations and investigations are two different things. With the present crooked neo-cons in power, no investigations can be started. Any other Congressional arrangement, and dumbya would have been impeached years ago.
It highlights the depth of corruption within the repug party. The 8 years of this admin, will go down as the most corrupt in history. And, the repugs will have done nothing to curtail it.

Oh, and you're right, lying about a bj is much worse than the violation of our Constitutional Rights by the present crooks in charge.

I'll avoid stereotyping the left, but my god how I love this great rebuttal that is all personal opinion and 0% factual statements. Yes DMV, I'm sure the very narrow congressional majority that the GOP holds is supressing all of the "corruption" in the White House. Especially considering that this president has been been subjected to more media scrutiny than any of his precedecessors.

And yes, lying to a grand jury and subsequently being impeached is worse than the constitutionally upheld decisions that the President has made. Just b/c you don't like something the president does doesn't make it unconstiutional...unless of course you're talking about perjury.

[SmokinDVM]

I'll avoid stereotyping the left, but my god how I love this great rebuttal that is all personal opinion and 0% factual statements. Yes DMV, I'm sure the very narrow congressional majority that the GOP holds is supressing all of the "corruption" in the White House. Especially considering that this president has been been subjected to more media scrutiny than any of his precedecessors.

And yes, lying to a grand jury and subsequently being impeached is worse than the constitutionally upheld decisions that the President has made. Just b/c you don't like something the president does doesn't make it unconstiutional...unless of course you're talking about perjury.

You don't know what you're talking about.
The lack of Democratic control in either branch of Congress makes it impossible to get ANY investigation started, without repug support, which they will not get.
Dumbya has made NO Constitutionally upheld decisions, because the repugs block all efforts at investigations or hearings.
The asshole-in-chief has violated multiple sections of The Bill of Rights, and then blocks any discussion, or investigation.
And, IMO, violating an oath to uphold the Constitution is far worse than lying about a blowjob.


And, stop calling me DMV, and I won't call you harryass.

[JHarri31]

You don't know what you're talking about.
The lack of Democratic control in either branch of Congress makes it impossible to get ANY investigation started, without repug support, which they will not get.
Dumbya has made NO Constitutionally upheld decisions, because the repugs block all efforts at investigations or hearings.
The asshole-in-chief has violated multiple sections of The Bill of Rights, and then blocks any discussion, or investigation.
And, IMO, violating an oath to uphold the Constitution is far worse than lying about a blowjob.


And, stop calling me DMV, and I won't call you harryass.

Cite one example, and while you're at it stop speaking in generalities. Also, calm down, do you always fly off the handle when someone questions your beliefs.

[SmokinDVM]

Cite one example, and while you're at it stop speaking in generalities. Also, calm down, do you always fly off the handle when someone questions your beliefs.

Just the tip of the iceberg, if you keep digging, you might learn something.

Stop being a drama queen. No one here was flying off anything.