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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacFU View Post
    Barry, CCat isn't condoning the pedophilia in any way, shape or form. He's merely pointing out that all the hoo-hah about it (as far as party bashing) is ridiculous seeing as though there have been pedophiles on the democrat side having been covered up. In both cases both parties are wrong. Bill's just pointing out that it's stupid to start party bashing and going on a witch hunt as if the other party had never done anything like this. Watergate didn't accomplish anything (literally it lead to no advantage or really could have helped Nixon's campaign), so who the hell cares, but gosh darn it, Nixon lied about it under oath so bring out the torches, picks and forks and let's have a republican witch burning. Same thing with Clinton, the BJ didn't affect anything, so who cares, but gosh darn it, Clinton lied under oath so bring out the torches, picks and forks and let's have a democrat witch burning.

    Every political party has done every stupid thing the other party has done. Democrats put us in Vietnam and Korea, not Republicans. Republicans put us in Iraq (though at least there was a congressional vote on this one which at least included some Demo's) not Democrats. Each party claims to be the bringer of freedom while the other says if you elect their opponent they'll take your freedoms. Each party has had miserable diplomatic failures, Bush on the Middle East, Clinton on Eastern Europe and Russia. Both parties have been the "cause" of massive economic failures. Both parties have ignored the environment at one time or another. Both parties have illegally bought elections, though the republicans never have at the Presidential level. In other words, each party is only concerned with their own power. When people are going to choose to vote, many will just vote as sheep and treat voting like their religion, my parents were this, so I vote this. But, many others will vote for very specific issues that do not cover a very broad range of what the overall issues are. Some will vote purely out of a right to life stance, regardless of the candidate in the district supporting it. Some will vote purely out of an economic stance and thus ignore moral issues. Others will vote from a purely foreign affairs standpoint and ignore the rest.

    So just give it a rest, EVERYBODY JUST GIVE IT A DAMN REST, you're a Democrat, Bill's a Republican, neither of you is changing and neither are any of the rest of us, so just shut up about politics. Bill is a die hard Republican, yet he rarely posts about political stuff, why, because this is a CIGAR BOARD. I can understand him being fed up with your posting because for a CIGAR BOARD, you treat this as your own political soap box. It's not to say you can't have your opinion on politics, it's just to say post that stuff on a demo-loving forum, or if you want to be a troll, on a repub-loving forum. Either way, everyone is just tired of it on this board. And yes, I know we can choose to ignore it, but we have been, for a good part of the time you've been here. Bill has been really well-behaved up until recently, but there just comes a point where we want to see contributions to the cigar side of life on this board.

    This is why threads like this should just get locked. Most are way too intent on who can yell louder and now the facts of the situation and ultimate purpose of this forum are getting ignored.

    So how bout Hex, you just put a lockdown on the politics forum thread for about 30 days, just as a test. Open it up again after, but for 30 days, a peacefulness in our community's eyes as no more political boxing goes on.
    Oh, stop it Sean - you're making WAY too much sense... Democrats just like Republicans? C'mon!!! Not in Barry's world, obviously...

    Barry - you weren't a member here at this politics forum inception, so you really don't understand it's TRUE purpose. This forum was initially opened for saying what you want about ANY topic, but really was for asshat chasing, without repercussion from admin. Now you're using it as a soapbox for spewing your hate for the republican party. Barry - while you are fully entitled to your opinion - your opinion is becoming the prevailing cry in this politics forum - and that's sickening. Sean's right - this is a CIGAR BOARD - not a political board...

    No doubt there is not a single person on this board who know exactly where you stand politically. Even though you may think so, tossing around vicious, nasty and curse filled posts is not in your best interest. I doubt seriously you'd be acting like this in front of any of your patients - and you should really consider that while in the midst of your friends here...

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    I am sick and tired of all this political banter. I supported the political forum and the free speach going on but when it comes down to it this is a cigar board all this crap is just that crap.

    Take it somewhere else. I'm sure there is a political board out there buying for this shit.


    Frankly Barry, you just bait people with this and for one, I'm sick of it.

    You want to express your views, do a cigar review.

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    Barry, see, this is the problem I'm talking about, you want the fight to continue just so you can yell louder (not that your last post did this, it didn't, but it wanted to leave the issue open).

    I'm not saying it doesn't matter, it does. BUT, and pay attention because clearly this is the part you missed: THE PART OF EACH PARTY POINTING FINGERS AND SAYING YOU'RE A BUNCH OF IMMORAL IDIOTS IN THAT PARTY OF YOURS BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SO AND SO is BULLSHIT because people on both sides have done it. Should we criminalize the bastards who partook all the way to jail, ABSOLUTELY. Should we make this a partisan thing NOOOOOOO, because both parties have done this crap.

    Did I just yell real loud, yes, why because I walked into a burning room with two people fighting over who gets the furniture in the burning room, while the important thing is to just get out of the room.

    And yes, I am directing the majority of my post at you as the majority of your posts, not threads started, relate to politics not cigars.

    Have you contributed to the cigar part, no question about it, but lately it seems all you want to do is ream the Republican party and anybody who agrees with them. The discussion on pot, fine, not a party politics thing as we noted, people on both sides support it, it's just on the one side it's the young and old, not just the young. You want to discuss issues like that apart from partisan views that's fine. But all the rhetoric utilized to demonstrate your hatred of the Republican party is tired. We know you hate them, 'nuff said now. So, just stop talking party politics. And yeah, I say this for anybody who wants to get involved in these kinds of discussions, once we know who you hate, that's enough.
    "If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair." -C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

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    Who started this thread, and what was its topic?

    Who started this one?

    And this one?

    Or this one?

    How about this...if you don't like it, don't read it. If it really bothers you that much...stop your pussy whining and start a ban poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    stop your pussy whining and start a ban poll.

    Up until this very moment I would have voted no. Now I'm not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhcigarfan View Post
    Up until this very moment I would have voted no. Now I'm not so sure.
    I don't see the ban post yet.

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    I haven't requested one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhcigarfan View Post
    I haven't requested one.

    and,imho,shouldn't....the fact that some are rep and some are dem should be nothing to cause a ban,,,,the very fact that most here seem to be on the right would pretty much make a ban for a dem a fait acompli...i suggest that maybe some deep breaths be taken...

    as i said before...i invited barry here..he's a friend of mine and outside of some name calling from both sides....he's a good addition to the board....he stepped up in a different thread and stated that this...not some other bb was his "home board".....


    that said....resume play...

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